Does OES differ from OEM in terms of motor parts?
Does OES differ from OEM in terms of motor parts?
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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Hi all, simple question but I need some brake discs and pads and have found some online advertised as OES (original equipment spares), but does this mean the same as OEM (original equipment manufacturer) or are OES parts just an equivalent/acceptable spec?

Thanks in advance, Neil.

ludicrous speed

959 posts

223 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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discs and pads shouldn't matter, oem ones are normally st anyway so i doubt they're any worse

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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ludicrous speed said:
discs and pads shouldn't matter, oem ones are normally st anyway so i doubt they're any worse
Not always so, in the case of both of my cars the OEM discs and pads are highly rated - hence me wanting to know exactly what I'm buying!

PlayersNo6

1,102 posts

185 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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Never heard of the term 'OES' - what is the brand of brakes and what car are they for?


Defcon5

6,469 posts

220 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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Is it not OE standard, rather than spares?

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd April 2011
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OEM as you say, is Original Equipment Manufacturer. These SHOULD be the same ones that supply the particular part to the car manufacturer.
EG a Peugeot franchised dealer supplied clutch in a Peugeot logo'd box will be stamped with the Valeo logo as Valeo make them & supply to Peugeot.
A Valeo clutch in a Valeo box for the same vehicle from a Motor Factor should be the same as the Peugeot one.

Anything else will just be a 'pattern part' made by A.N.Other, is usually cheaper & may well not be of reasonable quality. Some pattern parts don't fit very well & some are likely to cause issues.

Often see the term 'Equivalent quality part' used to describe pattern parts in adsrolleyes which I suspect what 'Original Equipment Standard' may translate as.

If in any doubt - especially with critical items which may cause expensive issues if they fail prematurely - source from a franchised dealer. Yes, I know they may be more expensive, but they should fit and be fit for purpose.





Edited by paintman on Friday 22 April 23:50

parapaul

2,828 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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Brakes aren't worth skimping on.

If it's not a brand name you recognise, I'd steer clear.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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I agree re skimping on brakes, the pads I'm looking at are Bosch for an E-Class. What I didn't want to do was go to Merc, and buy the same Bosch pads in a Merc box and pay double for them - I can't seem to find any confirmation of who makes Merc pads, and the Bosch pads I'm looking at are noted as OES, which made me think they may be the same as come factory fitted?

PlayersNo6

1,102 posts

185 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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I'd be happy using Bosch brake components - provided they come from a reputable source.

Lots of counterfeit parts around these days apparently.

seagrey

385 posts

194 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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paintman said:
OEM as you say, is Original Equipment Manufacturer. These SHOULD be the same ones that supply the particular part to the car manufacturer.
EG a Peugeot franchised dealer supplied clutch in a Peugeot logo'd box will be stamped with the Valeo logo as Valeo make them & supply to Peugeot.
A Valeo clutch in a Valeo box for the same vehicle from a Motor Factor should be the same as the Peugeot one.

Anything else will just be a 'pattern part' made by A.N.Other, is usually cheaper & may well not be of reasonable quality. Some pattern parts don't fit very well & some are likely to cause issues.

Often see the term 'Equivalent quality part' used to describe pattern parts in adsrolleyes which I suspect what 'Original Equipment Standard' may translate as.

If in any doubt - especially with critical items which may cause expensive issues if they fail prematurely - source from a franchised dealer. Yes, I know they may be more expensive, but they should fit and be fit for purpose.





Edited by paintman on Friday 22 April 23:50
Valeo actually do oem quality and lesser quality parts,especially in the drive train/clutch range.
I`ve had some of their cheaper concentric slave cyl`s and clutch assemblies,with ste results.
The oem is worth the extra tenner,all their oem stuff will have a red and black circular oem sticker on the box above and overlapping the valeo brand name.

ROOODBOY

4,597 posts

224 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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With brake pads there is strict regulation on the performance capabilities of parts sold in Europe.
There are still differences, but things are better than they used to be. You just need to make sure the parts comply to 'R90' regs.

http://www.ebcbrakes.com/automotive/regulation90.s...

Also, many aftermarket suppliers of brakes and other components often sell exactly the same parts that are being supplied by the main dealer as they are being sourced from the same factories - often in the far east.