L200, HiLux or Navara?
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Kentish

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15,169 posts

263 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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Further to my post about vans, I am also considering a "ute" smile

I think the Navara could be off the list due to major issues with the 2.5 diesel engines.
Very common for them to pop and require a rebuild it appears.

How about the L200 or the HiLux, pro's & con's?

Cheers all!

Fleckers

2,880 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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do a search mate

lots of posts about this.

I think the main hit will be HiLux

but then again you could look at yank stuff, Ford F150 or Dodge Ram


domgrant

57 posts

203 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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I went for a D40 Navara (D22 model has the engine problems) after driving them all as I thought it was the best for me. 6 months later and I still love the thing :-). I ranked them in this order:

Nissan Navara
Toyota Hilux
Ford Ranger
L200
Isuzu

This is of course based on 2010 models.

Benbay001

5,892 posts

186 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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Hilux 3.0 invincible smile- landcruiser engine

billzeebub

3,911 posts

228 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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HiLux or Landrover Defender

RobbieL

610 posts

213 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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We've got a Hilux 3.0 D4D and to be honest, I can't fault it.

Pleasant interior and tows like a train.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

186 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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RobbieL said:
We've got a Hilux 3.0 D4D and to be honest, I can't fault it.

Pleasant interior and tows like a train.
Any idea why it's only allowed to tow 2250kg? That's way behind a Defender at 3500kg and I can't work out why.

MJK 24

5,677 posts

265 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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Caulkhead said:
Any idea why it's only allowed to tow 2250kg? That's way behind a Defender at 3500kg and I can't work out why.
Excluding the aforementioned Defender, the 3.0 Ranger has the highest towing weight at 3,000kgs. Note that VOSA are well on the case of people using Rangers and Jap equivalents to tow 3,500kg trailers and are coming down on them like a ton of bricks!

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

186 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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MJK 24 said:
Caulkhead said:
Any idea why it's only allowed to tow 2250kg? That's way behind a Defender at 3500kg and I can't work out why.
Excluding the aforementioned Defender, the 3.0 Ranger has the highest towing weight at 3,000kgs. Note that VOSA are well on the case of people using Rangers and Jap equivalents to tow 3,500kg trailers and are coming down on them like a ton of bricks!
You'd think all the pick-up manufacturers competing in that sector would have comparable towing stats. Puzzling why a vehicle with a reputation like the Hilux can barely tow more than a big estate car in a market where towing ability is vital.

andymach23

123 posts

194 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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Caulkhead said:
Any idea why it's only allowed to tow 2250kg? That's way behind a Defender at 3500kg and I can't work out why.
Is it to do with the pay load that will be potentially carried in the pick up bed? 2250 kg being towed plus ???? kg in the pickup?

Land Rovers tend to have a generous towing capacity due to the full time four wheel drive.


MJK 24

5,677 posts

265 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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Caulkhead said:
You'd think all the pick-up manufacturers competing in that sector would have comparable towing stats. Puzzling why a vehicle with a reputation like the Hilux can barely tow more than a big estate car in a market where towing ability is vital.
It could be clutch or cooling related. The ability to do a hill start on a certain gradient fully loaded. The ability to climb a certain gradient fully loaded in 40 degree ambient temperature etc. There will be a technical reason for it.

Godzuki

73,668 posts

284 months

Saturday 23rd April 2011
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Well, is it going to be used for off roading, hauling stuff, towing stuff, how many passengers?

Kentish

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15,169 posts

263 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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It's going to be used mainly as a van and I've decided that size is a problem.

They are too small unless it is the smaller crew cab (as opposed to twin cab).

But I was thinking of getting rid of my car and using this instead but I don't think a side facing rear seat is OK for a 3 week old baby to travel in.

So, I'm back to plan A - keep my car (which I'd lose loads of money on as I bought it new last year) and have he van solely for business use.

Daniel1

2,931 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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what about one of those twin cab vans?

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Had L200 in West Africa great vehicle, got access Hilux in Borneo it is crap wet weather handling is awfull to the point of being dangerous,and I try to avoid going in it as either a passenger or a driver. As you may guess both are used as proper off road use not a green lane tractors, driven the Nissan on road loved it, and what I would have with my money.

nickphuket

295 posts

233 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Had Mega cab L200 from new, loved it, but standard tyres and no ABS made wet weather interesting! Over here the Toyota and the Isuzu hold their values way better than any other truck, and trucks are more common than cars. Have you thought of the Mazda / Ford?

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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I've just sold my Isuzu Max LE that I've had as a runaround since new, 4 years, 60,ooo miles and only had a set of glow plugs under warranty and I bent a shock absorber whilst messing about.

Brilliant tool and I wouldn't hesistate to buy another.

redtwin

7,518 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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"I don't think a side facing rear seat is OK for a 3 week old baby to travel in."

How old of a pickup were you looking at?. I can't recall any extra cab (not the 4 door version) having side facing seats in the past 15+ years.

I too would like a pickup, but find the bed length of the 4 door models too short for my needs and the inbetween models i.e Space, King, Super etc (different manufacturers call it different things) are very thin on the ground. I can find them either nearly new and out of my budget or within budget but hammered to within an inch of their life, and none seem to have the sort of spec I would be happy with.


Kentish

Original Poster:

15,169 posts

263 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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redtwin said:
"I don't think a side facing rear seat is OK for a 3 week old baby to travel in."

How old of a pickup were you looking at?. I can't recall any extra cab (not the 4 door version) having side facing seats in the past 15+ years.

I too would like a pickup, but find the bed length of the 4 door models too short for my needs and the inbetween models i.e Space, King, Super etc (different manufacturers call it different things) are very thin on the ground. I can find them either nearly new and out of my budget or within budget but hammered to within an inch of their life, and none seem to have the sort of spec I would be happy with.
This was a 2007 crew cab (not the twin cab).


CanadianScot

1,916 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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My dad has had a D40 Navara from new in 06 with no engine problems. It's just now approaching 100k. Hasn't got stuck at all with 3 ft snow, steep muddy fields etc. Even better now on BF Goodrich A/T's.

The only issue was the Sat Nav screen thing wouldn't work after countless trips back to the dealer, until they eventually replaced the whole unit.

It is (was?) the most powerful by quite some way. The L200 is supposed to be the most car like I hear.