RE: PH Fleet: Mazda Eunos Roadster
RE: PH Fleet: Mazda Eunos Roadster
Tuesday 26th April 2011

PH Fleet: Mazda Eunos Roadster

North Wales reveals the strengths - and a couple of weaknesses - in the 'PH project' Mazda Eunos



There's a danger with these euphemistically titled 'project cars' that you just spend all your time faffing about with spanners and not actually driving the things. Well, I'm glad to report there's no such danger with the Eunos and I have actually been putting the miles in. Having spent quite a lot of time faffing about with spanners. And learning that bodyshop guys – or at least the ones I went to see – aren't fun folk to hang out with.

It's all down to that damned stupid idea to put a stick-on plate on the front. The first one I stuck on wonky. Then it peeled off after I tried to straighten it and took the paint with it. No problem, I'll put another one on and cover the bald patch. But I cocked that up too.


Aforementioned bodyshops looked at it, teeth were sucked, shoulders shrugged and a general level of disinterest expressed as if I was asking them to do the job as a favour. Even when I pointed out that, yes, they would be paid for the work there was still little enthusiasm so in a sulk I went home and bought a whole new nose cone for sixty quid off eBay.

Another afternoon with the socket set and the company of Paul Hardiman's excellent service manual saw the front ends swapped relatively painlessly, the paint not quite a perfect match but better in generally better nick than the one I'd taken off.


With suspension deliberations still ongoing Phil from Performance5 got in touch having read about the car and shared some titbits based on his experience of developing his own bespoke damper set-up for MX-5s. Chatting with Phil it's clear he's got a real bee in his bonnet about the common misconceptions people have about suspension set-up and I liked his way of thinking so we'll see where this ends up.

Wait, I was meant to be talking about driving, not fettling. And driving I have been doing, and enjoying. The gods were obviously smiling on me too, a weekend away in Anglesey neatly coinciding with both a Circuit Days trackday on Anglesey circuit and three days of glorious spring weather.


On the back of chatting with Phil I was keen to push the car a bit harder as it is and find out for myself how the stock set-up could be improved and the combination of Snowdonia’s roads and the Anglesey circuit were a perfect testing ground.

Circuit Days has a pretty open door policy and I was more than a little intimidated to see some serious cars out on track with me, including a Ginetta G50. And boy is the Eunos slow in that company. Really slow. Enormous fun though, the satisfaction there in swallowing a brave pill and learning to carry speed rather than rely on horsepower to build it. Excellent marshalling made the speed differential between me and cars like the Ginetta bearable, some very on the ball blue flagging meaning I had plenty of time to get out of the way of the big boys and continue on my merry way with the odd cheeky skid now and then to liven things up.


Having rued the cost of my braided lines and new discs and pads I was now grateful for the firm, consistent pedal and perfectly adequate stopping power, given the modest performance. Something backed up by Circuit Days' Darren Langeveld who, having psyched himself up, bravely agreed to take the wheel for some photo laps. Clearly wary of what he was letting himself in for he kicked the tyres speculatively and asked if the Mazda was all in order. I affirmed it was and nervously watched as he sped off up the pit lane. He must have enjoyed it and was out for ages, returning with a fat grin and full of praise for the car and the brakes especially. Phew!

Poor little thing was feeling it by now though, a quantity of oil from the rocker cover gasket suggesting it hadn't quite seated correctly after the cambelt change – another one is sitting beside me awaiting a chance to fit it.


The drive back from Anglesey was a proper 'this is why I bought this car' affirmation moment too, the midweek calm meaning I got from Llanberis to Blaenau Ffestiniog and saw just two other cars. Blue skies, stunning Welsh scenery and wonderful flowing roads had the Eunos in its element, the best bit being this fun was all at (relatively) innocent speeds.

It's not perfect though and I look forward to talking more with Phil about possible suspension upgrades. I don't feel any desperate need to go harder but feel it might sit a bit better (and look a tad more poised) with a few millimetres out of the ride height. There's definitely a bit of wallow in the rear axle too, the dampers most likely worn and sitting into their travel meaning it both floats about and thumps into the bumpstops rather more regularly than is ideal.


Rather more gratifying is that all this'spirited driving' seems to have loosened up the Eunos’s vocal chords somewhat and it has now developed a most pleasing, Alfa-esque rasp to the exhaust. And that's one mod achieved without even lifting a spanner – yet another endorsement of the 'just get out and drive' policy I aim to live by now the weather is getting better.

Author
Discussion

MrDarkBlack

Original Poster:

3,997 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
A great write up! smile

I do wonder how many MX-5's have been bought because of the great following of them on PH.. I hope to one day, be part of that group!


Edited by MrDarkBlack on Tuesday 26th April 10:43

Laurel Green

31,128 posts

261 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Light, four wheels at the corners, open top together with sunshine and, some twisties. What more can one want? thumbup Great writeup!

sinbaddio

2,849 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Been having great fun in mine this last week - how many smiles??? tongue out

tonym911

19,439 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Looking for one to buy one as we speak.

snotrag

15,634 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Cam cover gaskets dont seal by themselves - a new one wont fix the leak if you just replace.

It needs a bit of silicone gasket in the corners, particularly the tight corners around where the Cam angle sensor sits and the two camshaft end cap 'humps' at the front end. Really common leak.

JonnyFive

29,897 posts

218 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Excellent write up.. This is the reason PH praises the MX5 the way they do, and those that don't like them, are the ones who haven't driven them wink

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Snotrag - top tip and it'll be appearing in the next report but you're bang on. I did exactly that, cleaned it all up and it's remained dry and oil free ever since. Easy job too.

wackojacko

8,581 posts

219 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Great write up, loving the cheeky sideways antics !

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
With regards to suspension, I went the route of Gaz Gold.

Execellent system that was installed and set up by Wheels in Motion for 'fast-road'.

It's adjustable so on the roads it can be nice and compliant. Get to a track day, firm it all up and get rid of the roly-poly feeling the stock system gives when pushed really hard.

I can dig out all the specs, settings, spring rates etc when back in UK.

eta, I don't have photos on this laptop, but the pictures in my garage section gives you an idea how the car now 'sits'.

_Al_

5,618 posts

287 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
I'm quite taken by the way yours sits right now. It's a million times better than my bone-stock example.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Small suggestion: if it feels a bit knackered at the rear, check the ARB bushes. Much cheaper to replace than a whole set of coilies.

That said, if there's a PH group buy on the P5 coilovers I'm in.

PumpkinSteve

4,250 posts

185 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
It's my dream to own a Eunos, in the bright blue colour...Sadly I've got nowhere to keep one frown

johnpeat

5,329 posts

294 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
PumpkinSteve said:
It's my dream to own a Eunos, in the bright blue colour...Sadly I've got nowhere to keep one frown
You can keep it in the same place you keep any other car - it will fit there just fine - it won't mind being outside, it's not an MG just waiting to leak and rust, it's Japanese...

The few people I know who've owned one have had no trouble insuring them for being kept on the road either - premiums no more than a mild hot hatch and sometimes cheaper!

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
johnpeat said:
PumpkinSteve said:
It's my dream to own a Eunos, in the bright blue colour...Sadly I've got nowhere to keep one frown
You can keep it in the same place you keep any other car - it will fit there just fine - it won't mind being outside, it's not an MG just waiting to leak and rust, it's Japanese...

The few people I know who've owned one have had no trouble insuring them for being kept on the road either - premiums no more than a mild hot hatch and sometimes cheaper!
Hear hear. Mine didn't move for all of February, parked under a tree by the side of the road. Jump started it, took it for a run and it's as right as rain, passed its MOT again two weeks ago. Amazingly reliable little cars... little things break and wear out but the core question of "does it work" is never in question.

PumpkinSteve

4,250 posts

185 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
johnpeat said:
You can keep it in the same place you keep any other car - it will fit there just fine - it won't mind being outside, it's not an MG just waiting to leak and rust, it's Japanese...

The few people I know who've owned one have had no trouble insuring them for being kept on the road either - premiums no more than a mild hot hatch and sometimes cheaper!
No, it's not that...I live in Newcastle laugh

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Reckon I know this bit of road smile


VladD

8,199 posts

294 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
Dan,

Are you planning on taking the beast to Le Mans this year? I'll be taking mine so it would be good to see yours in the metal.

Steve vRS

5,395 posts

270 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
johnpeat said:
You can keep it in the same place you keep any other car - it will fit there just fine - it won't mind being outside, it's not an MG just waiting to leak and rust, it's Japanese...
Sadly they do rust, especially around the sills and rear arches. It's about the only thing to look out for when buying as most other aspects are bulletproof.

Steve

Alfa159Ti

856 posts

186 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
I am too am enjoying EUNOS ownership for the first time and enjoying getting to know the iconic mk1 MX5.

I managed to find a black 1.6 S Special with nardi steering wheel, BBS wire wheels, bilstein factory fitted suspension and ARBs, with 69k on the clock, a file of service history the size of my head and only a little bit of rear arch rust for £1,300! cool

The steering is the best I have ever experienced - SO direct and well balanced. The gear change too is sublime, putting most modern cars to shame. The engine makes all the right noises and thrives on being wrung out though it....well...doesn't push you along very fast at all! However, with the roof down and the raspy exhaust barking behind you, you just don't care as it is all so much fun.

It is actually an ideal car for our back roads in many respects, as you can get your RWD kicks, wring its neck and have great fun all whilst rarely breaking the speed limit. I used to drive MR2 turbos the same way and whilst old school turbo charged goodness was a hoot, they were dangerously fast from a license retention point of view!

I thoroughly recommend anyone who hasn't at least had the MX5/ Eunos experience give it a try. The cost to buy and maintain is so low now it would be rude not to.

suffolk009

7,879 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
quotequote all
I had the same problem with the cam cover gasket leaking after doing the cambelt. I had used pleanty of silicon - that was the problem. New one fitted, extra care, no silicon gunk, perfectly oil tight.

I also have the rusty sil and rear wheel arches problem. They're on the to-do list, won't cost much.

Would like to hear more about the suspension please.