Octavia VRS Estate (MK1) is it any good? What else?
Octavia VRS Estate (MK1) is it any good? What else?
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Chrisw666

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22,655 posts

228 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Ok so this is sort of a what car thread. I want a new car, I don't need one but I want one.

My criteria are must be an Estate because I have grown to love being able to fit anything I want in the car, must be fun to drive but fairly discreet and under £4k. I have considered the T5 engined Volvos but just can't find many I would be happy with in budget and they only really seem fun in a straight line, and I already have a Turbo charged volvo that is competent not slow but never entertains.

The S and RS Audis are an option but I would be always wondering if a big bill was just about to appear.
The 330 or 328 both appeal but are not that common (1 manual 330i touring within 100 miles of me on AT).
Focus ST170 is one I have considered but I think because I have had one I should get something different, and the Mondeo does nothing for me.

Is there anything else I have missed or is the VRS the more amusing but still practical car I am searching for?

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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They aren't really fun to drive.

An E36 325/8 Touring would be far more fun as would a Scooby (but not very discrete)

An E46 isn't fun - its dull as are most post 2000 cars.

yorkshire

166 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Hi,

I've got a mk1 Vrs estate, mine has been fine, it's fast enough for daily use, it's is a bit floaty in the twisty bits and the paintwork has had to be sorted out under warranty on the back doors and the tailgate, oh and it destroyed a gearbox as well...
That's aside if you are looking for something fast, can be economical, spacious and a bit of a q car, then look no further.
Would also add, pay a vist to Briskoda..

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Can the C32 AMG be had for this money? Then again it's likely to be expensive to maintain.

Alfa 156 V6 is quickish.

Passat 2.8 V6? Maybe a bit dull to drive though.

Chrisw666

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22,655 posts

228 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Not a fan of the scooby, a bit too noisy and obvious even in wagon flavour.

The C32 is too expensive, a C43 isn't but while I don't want 50mpg there is no way I could live with fuelling one if the claimed mpg is close to reality. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

ETA: If I was buying a mile munching diesel the passat would be on the list but they are too dull even for someone that wants an estate car.

Edited by Chrisw666 on Wednesday 27th April 13:15

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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In that case the only other thing you might want to consider is the Octavia 4x4 version.

IIRC it has the larger turbo and remaps to 210bhp.

Haldex controller will make it a bit more fun too.

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

195 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Might be pushing the budget but how about the 3.0 Jag X-Type? 4wd and 231bhp, but maybe a bit soft if you're after something sporty.

Chrisw666

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22,655 posts

228 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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I think I may well be trying to get too much from a tight set of criteria.

The 4x4 Octavia is cheaper but I don't really want to start modifying, though a 200bhp normal looking Octavia estate would appeal to my sense of humour.

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Chrisw666 said:
I don't really want to start modifying
Wash your mouth out !

You could buy a modified one - plenty on here or Briskoda.

Worth considering the hatch too as it is bigger than many estates.

Chrisw666

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22,655 posts

228 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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hehe

I have considered hatches (and sports cars) but I went from a Berlingo with more practicality than you can shake a stick at, to a Volvo that is as useful but comfy and just love the space I can have. I had hatches for years some of them small and am firmly an estate car fan until I can afford to run more than one motor.

This looks cheap if it wears its miles well.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

FIK

372 posts

186 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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i've just bought a MG ZT-T 190 (2.5l V6), collect on Friday

There is a V8 version as well (250bhp)

I know it is effectively a Rover 75 but that was fettled by BMW

The colour of this one might not be great but this is what you can get for £4k and thats top price i think, alot around for 2.5K

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1846245.htm

Edited by FIK on Wednesday 27th April 13:47

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Chrisw666 said:
hehe

This looks cheap if it wears its miles well.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
178k - there must be some big bills due in the near future

Chrisw666

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22,655 posts

228 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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redgriff500 said:
178k - there must be some big bills due in the near future
Clutch and Flywheel done at 160k, no idea on servicing schedules for these things but AFAIK chain cam so that isn't an issue. The suspension and related bit may need a refresh though.

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Engine, gearbox, wheel bearings, suspension etc all wear out.

There is a reason cars are priced by age and mileage.

130k is the "new 100k" once over 150k no one wants to buy IME.

waterwonder

1,002 posts

205 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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The C32 is too expensive, a C43 isn't but while I don't want 50mpg there is no way I could live with fuelling one if the claimed mpg is close to reality. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
That can't be right. I would expect them to be a bit juicy but that's horrendous. Sod that if it is correct, much more bang/buck available via other vessels me thinks.

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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waterwonder said:
said:
The C32 is too expensive, a C43 isn't but while I don't want 50mpg there is no way I could live with fuelling one if the claimed mpg is close to reality. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...
That can't be right. I would expect them to be a bit juicy but that's horrendous. Sod that if it is correct, much more bang/buck available via other vessels me thinks.
Fuel consumption (urban) 11.7 mpg
Fuel consumption (extra urban) 16.5 mpg
Fuel consumption (combined) 8.9 mpg

Combined is clearly wrong. I'd guess 15-20mpg is about right.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

187 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Saab sportwagon; a bit left-field but worth considering.

RH

marcosgt

11,498 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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I'd recommend a test drive.

Some of the cars described as "More fun" didn't strike me that way when I bought a hatch Mk1 vRS.

I've not driven the estate, so it could be quite different, but the Octavia was a much more enjoyable drive than it's rather staid exterior suggested.

Would've been even more fun with a tad more power (210 - 225 BHP - too much would probably have ruined it though).

M.

paulsm

410 posts

252 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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my wife has a current vRS estate, I love it, great car. Practical, well built, plenty fast enough.