Tree Sap or what ?
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mph

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311 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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When I park my car outside the house for even an hour it's covered in thousands of minute drops which form a hard deposit.

These are almost invisible to the naked eye but give the paintwork a rough feeling, almost like sandpaper.

I live in a rural area and there are trees close to where I park. I'm assuming it's tree sap or something similar floating around, but the amount of the stuff seems ridiculous.

Is there anything I can apply that will make this stuff less likely to adhere other than a good wax polish ?


Defcon5

6,470 posts

220 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Not really, although I would consider a car cover if it is parked up there regularly.

If you are struggling to remove it, you can get special stuff designed for tar/sap/bugs etc, or maybe a claybar for really stubborn bits

mattmoxon

5,026 posts

247 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Yep it is tree sap it comes off with a good wash if the car is well waxed if not I concur with what defcon said, try a claybar before the chemicals though, they are marvelous at getting stuff like sap and tar marks off.

Dogwatch

6,381 posts

251 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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There is a Council owned (thankfully) Sycamore tree on the verge outside which showers my car in sap every summer. Important to keep washing it off before it attacks the modern water paints, even a bucket of water and a long-handled brush will do.

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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There's a bloody sycamore hanging over my driveway, the car gets really filthy with the sticky ste picking up every bit of dust. Horrid mess.

JFReturns

3,828 posts

200 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Dogwatch said:
There is a Council owned (thankfully) Sycamore tree on the verge outside which showers my car in sap every summer. Important to keep washing it off before it attacks the modern water paints, even a bucket of water and a long-handled brush will do.
OP please don't use a brush, you will scratch your car.

It is indeed tree sap, and can be a problem if left. Give the car a decent clean, then buy some claybar ( Megs is fine).

If you have never used clay before, check Youtube as there are loads of tutorials. It is dead easy, and will remove the sap effectively.

Once clayed, your paint work is 'bare' so will need some protection. At this stage it is worth using a good polish, then give it a few coats of good quality wax. You will then find that the sap will not adhere as easily and it will come off during your usual wash.


Baryonyx

18,281 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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There is a tree some 10ft from where I park my Mazda, I think it's a silver birch. I used to cover my Focus in sap and dust and pollen stuck to the sap. I wonder how the vinyl roof on my MX5 will cope.

lordlee

3,137 posts

274 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Collinite 476s is the perfect wax for keeping the paint from tree damage. Once applied it will be easy to remove the sap with a jet wash when you come to the next wash. It will also make your paintwork look great too. Oh and it lasts for ages.

warmfuzzies

4,372 posts

282 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Aphid droppings more likely than tree sap, IIRC the aphids digest the sap, passes through and drops on your car, more an issue around lime trees and the like .


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chrissyr32

736 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Simples.....1 litre of cresote around roots of offending tree....6 months later dead tree no more sap.
Job sorted.

jackal

11,251 posts

311 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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mph said:
When I park my car outside the house for even an hour it's covered in thousands of minute drops which form a hard deposit.

These are almost invisible to the naked eye but give the paintwork a rough feeling, almost like sandpaper.

I live in a rural area and there are trees close to where I park. I'm assuming it's tree sap or something similar floating around, but the amount of the stuff seems ridiculous.

Is there anything I can apply that will make this stuff less likely to adhere other than a good wax polish ?
This is NOT tree sap. A common misnomer.

Tree sap does not rain down from leaves, branches and twigs in millions of tiny peppered spots. Tree sap does fall on cars but in large very obvious dollops.

The dots are actually a sugar solution that is regurgitated from the stomachs of aphids. I have a big problem with it in my driveway as its under a big tree where they all live. At certain times of the year the dots will appear literally seconds after you have washed a panel. Simple water will wash it away though and it cant damage your paint.

JFReturns

3,828 posts

200 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Aphid crap or not, that is missing the point. The OP wanted to know how to clean it off and aid the cleaning process in the future.

paulw123

4,918 posts

219 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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pobably easier to park elsewhere if possible

FezzaDude

381 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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yep our drive is surrounded with trees, this really is the bain of my life! I just make sure the cars are regularly washed and waxed to help protect the paintwork.

Edited by FezzaDude on Saturday 30th April 19:00

mph

Original Poster:

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311 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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jackal said:
This is NOT tree sap. A common misnomer.

Tree sap does not rain down from leaves, branches and twigs in millions of tiny peppered spots. Tree sap does fall on cars but in large very obvious dollops.

The dots are actually a sugar solution that is regurgitated from the stomachs of aphids. I have a big problem with it in my driveway as its under a big tree where they all live. At certain times of the year the dots will appear literally seconds after you have washed a panel. Simple water will wash it away though and it cant damage your paint.
Yes , this sounds exactly the scenario I have. Waxed the car this afternoon and it was covered again minutes after I finished.

Must be a lot of those aphids up there !

jackal

11,251 posts

311 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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JFReturns said:
Aphid crap or not, that is missing the point. The OP wanted to know how to clean it off and aid the cleaning process in the future.
As stated, simple water will do it. You dont even need shampoo or hot water. The sugar will stick and dry no matter what. There isnt a sealent on earth that will stop it.

And the latter is fairly obvious. Dont park under the offending trees. There are millions of those blighters on the leaves.

No need to be sore because you were wrong though. No one knows everything in life and my post wasnt written to hurt you.

eldar

25,274 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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Aphids are the cause, they love sycamores. Its water soluble and just washes off about 10 minutes after you give it a good soaking. No need for brushes or the like. A drive in the rain will also clear it.

mph

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Saturday 30th April 2011
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eldar said:
Aphids are the cause, they love sycamores. Its water soluble and just washes off about 10 minutes after you give it a good soaking. No need for brushes or the like. A drive in the rain will also clear it.
Thanks for all the advice at least I now know what I'm dealing with.

Unfortunately I can't avoid parking near a tree and guess what - it's a sycamore.

The marks do wash off easily but it's a real pain, doesn't anyone market an aphid exterminator ?


jackal

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311 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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mph said:
Thanks for all the advice at least I now know what I'm dealing with.

Unfortunately I can't avoid parking near a tree and guess what - it's a sycamore.

The marks do wash off easily but it's a real pain, doesn't anyone market an aphid exterminator ?
You can Karcher the tree.

Ive not done this myself but it is supposed to give some temporary light relief.

I suppose google will return the name of an aphid killer product and you could mix this into a pressure washer stream perhaps. Quite an xtreme measure but knowing how much of a pain this is i would probably go for it myself f i had katcger.

eldar

25,274 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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jackal said:
You can Karcher the tree.

Ive not done this myself but it is supposed to give some temporary light relief.

I suppose google will return the name of an aphid killer product and you could mix this into a pressure washer stream perhaps. Quite an xtreme measure but knowing how much of a pain this is i would probably go for it myself f i had katcger.
I've got five of the sycamore weeds, all with TPOs. Squirting the trees will result in a huge cloud of aphids and a downfall of aphid st as they fly away. A couple of days later the giant wasp magnet takes effect and there are millions of the stripey bds flying around, as well as the aphids. Got the T short for thatfrown

The solution in order of preference.

1. Chainsaw the buggers down and plant a proper tree.
2.Live in Cumbria where it rains every day.
3.Flamethrower.