RE: Fancy owning the Austin Rover company name?

RE: Fancy owning the Austin Rover company name?

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Matt_T

416 posts

75 months

Wednesday 8th May
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LotusOmega375D said:
williamp said:
Austin but be registered trademark still. Austin rover canpme ouf from BL cars, 2hich came from ritish Leyland. AR went on to become Fkver Group, then MG Rover.
Thanks for clearing that all up.
It simpl, if Austin but be registered trademark still, then when Fkver Group went become, AR no more have ritish Leyland.


InitialDave

11,978 posts

120 months

Wednesday 8th May
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williamp said:
Austin but be registered trademark still. Austin rover canpme ouf from BL cars, 2hich came from ritish Leyland. AR went on to become Fkver Group, then MG Rover. I might have missed a few steps

Dashnine

1,336 posts

51 months

Wednesday 8th May
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williamp said:
Austin but be registered trademark still. Austin rover canpme ouf from BL cars, 2hich came from ritish Leyland. AR went on to become Fkver Group, then MG Rover. I might have missed a few steps

Anyhow, this place would be a great home

https://greatbritishcarjourney.com/great-british-c...
I think you missed a few keys too... laugh

Augustus Windsock

3,385 posts

156 months

Wednesday 8th May
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williamp said:
InitialDave said:
Would you have to use it in full? So "Austin Rover" specifically?

Or do you by default also get to use "Austin", if not "Rover"?

My dad has an Austin 7, it'd be amusing to own the entire marque to go with it...
Austin but be registered trademark still. Austin rover canpme ouf from BL cars, 2hich came from ritish Leyland. AR went on to become Fkver Group, then MG Rover. I might have missed a few steps

Anyhow, this place would be a great home

https://greatbritishcarjourney.com/great-british-c...
^^^ Is this Harvey Price speaking?
What a daaaaay…

tallsopp

22 posts

158 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Its an interesting lot.. especially when you consider the 6R4 is an MG branded vehicle (MG Metro 6R4) and that the Chinese owners f the MG brand don't have the original plans? I’m sure they’d have a say in how a re-worked and new 6R4 be branded.

Dashnine

1,336 posts

51 months

Wednesday 8th May
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tallsopp said:
Its an interesting lot.. especially when you consider the 6R4 is an MG branded vehicle (MG Metro 6R4) and that the Chinese owners f the MG brand don't have the original plans? I’m sure they’d have a say in how a re-worked and new 6R4 be branded.
As per, and back to MST whose er, Escort isn’t an ‘Escort’, so the 6R4 won’t be a MG but it’ll be interesting to see if 6R4 was trademarked.

Panamax

4,153 posts

35 months

Wednesday 8th May
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If a trademark isn't in use it isn't protected, whether or not it's a "registered trade mark".

Anyone who puts the word "Rover" on a vehicle had better proceed with caution - JLR would be keen to protect their Land Rover and Range Rover brands. They may once have indicated only "off road" vehicles for farmers but over the decades have become attached to relatively normal road cars. For instance Discovery and Velar.

As for Austin, completely worthless I would imagine.

Speaking of which, I wonder where the Saab brand has gone these days? Like Rolls Royce it was split between aircraft use and automotive use. Similarly Lockheed.

Inaprop Riat

114 posts

63 months

Wednesday 8th May
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The opportunity to own the corporate vehicle that produced the Maestro for 80% of its production life. A once in a lunchtime proposition.

romac

602 posts

147 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Panamax said:
If a trademark isn't in use it isn't protected, whether or not it's a "registered trade mark".

Anyone who puts the word "Rover" on a vehicle had better proceed with caution - JLR would be keen to protect their Land Rover and Range Rover brands. They may once have indicated only "off road" vehicles for farmers but over the decades have become attached to relatively normal road cars. For instance Discovery and Velar.

As for Austin, completely worthless I would imagine.

Speaking of which, I wonder where the Saab brand has gone these days? Like Rolls Royce it was split between aircraft use and automotive use. Similarly Lockheed.
The Saab brand name remains wholly owned by Saab. They only "lent" the name to GM when they sold the car company to them. They allowed the first post-GM company to continue using the name, but once bankruptcy and the threat of Chinese ownership came along, that was it. They couldn't afford the Saab name to be sullied, when they were so big and important in defence etc.

As for the AustinRover name, scratchchin, I'll pass! coffee

Edited by romac on Thursday 9th May 10:55

Dashnine

1,336 posts

51 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Reading the article, I don’t think it’s even just Austin - it’s Austin Rover, just as it’s not just Rover.

I did see a list of the names still owned by various companies, can’t recall where Austin was. BMW still have the majority of the legacy BL names.

Edgey1

18 posts

31 months

Wednesday 8th May
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If the auction included the rights to the 'Maxi' name now that would be interesting..... I somehow think I'd be outbid by BMW.

gruppeb86

363 posts

14 months

Wednesday 8th May
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I do enjoy reading the Pistonheads forum.

williamp

19,281 posts

274 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Damn it. First time in ages I could answer a question and I Rover'd it up

king arthur

6,607 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Dashnine said:
Reading the article, I don’t think it’s even just Austin - it’s Austin Rover, just as it’s not just Rover.

I did see a list of the names still owned by various companies, can’t recall where Austin was. BMW still have the majority of the legacy BL names.
I'm fairly sure Austin went to SAIC along with Morris, whereas BMW kept Triumph and Riley.

tr3a

507 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th May
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All you get here is the limited company, which is just an empty shell.

Note how the e-mail address remains carefully unspecified. For all we know, the current owner of 'Austin Rover Ltd.' registered the name using whoeverbuysthisatauctionisawker@hotmail.com as the company's e-mail address.

PCB586

1 posts

Wednesday 8th May
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I would urge great caution.

It would appear the company name offered for sale is "Austin Rover Limited" a private company registered in 2013 with just one Director.

This company number is 08644851

It has nothing to do with Rover Cars or Rover Group.

The company people might think they are buying is currently called "The Rover Company Limited" which was formed in 1896, traded as Austin Rover in the 1980s and later had John Towers et al as Directors

This Company Number is 00048324

Be very careful to validate what you are buying.

The reference in the ad to "purchase from the liquidators" likely relates to the drawings only.

Caveat Emptor!

dunnoreally

983 posts

109 months

Wednesday 8th May
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It would be nice to see an owner's club buy the rights to the name, or maybe a specialist parts supplier, like Rimmer Bros. I guess a restomodder wouldn't be the worst fate in the world either.

In fact though I reckon it'll either go to some weird chancer and get slapped on something unrelated (are NFTs still a thing?) or a corporate with no intention of using it will decide they need it for legal reasons involving brand protection and the like.

CDP

7,465 posts

255 months

Thursday 9th May
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romac said:
Panamax said:
If a trademark isn't in use it isn't protected, whether or not it's a "registered trade mark".

Anyone who puts the word "Rover" on a vehicle had better proceed with caution - JLR would be keen to protect their Land Rover and Range Rover brands. They may once have indicated only "off road" vehicles for farmers but over the decades have become attached to relatively normal road cars. For instance Discovery and Velar.

As for Austin, completely worthless I would imagine.

Speaking of which, I wonder where the Saab brand has gone these days? Like Rolls Royce it was split between aircraft use and automotive use. Similarly Lockheed.
The Saab brand name remains wholly owned by Saab. They only "leant" the name to GM when they sold the car company to them. They allowed the first post-GM company to continue using the name, but once bankruptcy and the threat of Chinese ownership came along, that was it. They couldn't afford the Saab name to be sullied, when they were so big and important in defence etc.

As for the AustinRover name, scratchchin, I'll pass! coffee
A bit like the Rolls Royce name was only lent to the car company.

redroadster

1,767 posts

233 months

Thursday 9th May
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No street cred in that name let it sink .

nismo48

3,802 posts

208 months

Thursday 9th May
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Well if you fancy a classic moniker then good luck