RE: New Audi SQ6 e-tron gets 517hp, costs £93k
Discussion
hu8742 said:
The EV market. Remove the govt. incentives and tax breaks and what does the "real" market look like. Not much IMO.
I do think they have to be on a level footing, but they wouldnt sell many at all if they were.I think its strange to subsidise really quite expensive vehicles, usually for fairly high earners.
J4CKO said:
hu8742 said:
The EV market. Remove the govt. incentives and tax breaks and what does the "real" market look like. Not much IMO.
I do think they have to be on a level footing, but they wouldnt sell many at all if they were.I think its strange to subsidise really quite expensive vehicles, usually for fairly high earners.
We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.
Simple really.
Augustus Windsock said:
But would I be right in saying that at the end of year 4 in the ‘company car’ scheme, they will be de-fleeted and dumped onto the marketplace for private buyers?
At which point the huge depreciation will bite, possibly fuelled by fear of the cost to repair any battery or associated issues?
That’s me asking the question, not being argumentative..
You'd be right. We're beginning to get there with 3 year old Taycans, which have depreciated significantly - but not to the level that I'd like yet. At which point the huge depreciation will bite, possibly fuelled by fear of the cost to repair any battery or associated issues?
That’s me asking the question, not being argumentative..
I have access to a salary sacrifice EV car scheme through work, but it's quite expensive due to the supplier (and I can't really afford a new car and don't need one) so a cheaper second hand car would suit me better in a few years time.
Hopefully there'll be a few more EV estates on offer by then!
OoopsVoss said:
Isn't the EV 600bhp+ Macan Turbo 95k?
Is this bigger? If not seems a bit optimistically priced.
I was thinking the same - given the Porsche has a bit more power and costs virtually the same on the face of it you’d expect Audi to have gone in a bit lower with this. That said you’ll probably need to spend the obligatory extra £10K on options for the Macan to level things out kit-wise?Is this bigger? If not seems a bit optimistically priced.
TheMilkyBarKid said:
I was thinking the same - given the Porsche has a bit more power and costs virtually the same on the face of it you’d expect Audi to have gone in a bit lower with this. That said you’ll probably need to spend the obligatory extra £10K on options for the Macan to level things out kit-wise?
Probably closer to 15k to get it to an equivalent BMW \ Audi or Mercedes half decent spec (unfortunately)plfrench said:
J4CKO said:
hu8742 said:
The EV market. Remove the govt. incentives and tax breaks and what does the "real" market look like. Not much IMO.
I do think they have to be on a level footing, but they wouldnt sell many at all if they were.I think its strange to subsidise really quite expensive vehicles, usually for fairly high earners.
We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.
Simple really.
TheMilkyBarKid said:
OoopsVoss said:
Isn't the EV 600bhp+ Macan Turbo 95k?
Is this bigger? If not seems a bit optimistically priced.
I was thinking the same - given the Porsche has a bit more power and costs virtually the same on the face of it you’d expect Audi to have gone in a bit lower with this. That said you’ll probably need to spend the obligatory extra £10K on options for the Macan to level things out kit-wise?Is this bigger? If not seems a bit optimistically priced.
And then there's the increased likelihood of a discount with the Audi, whereas you'll only be offered another cup of tea and one of those individually wrapped crappy biscuits at an OPC.
TheMilkyBarKid said:
OoopsVoss said:
Isn't the EV 600bhp+ Macan Turbo 95k?
Is this bigger? If not seems a bit optimistically priced.
I was thinking the same - given the Porsche has a bit more power and costs virtually the same on the face of it you’d expect Audi to have gone in a bit lower with this. That said you’ll probably need to spend the obligatory extra £10K on options for the Macan to level things out kit-wise?Is this bigger? If not seems a bit optimistically priced.
I still only think they make sense as vehicles for those on 100k via salary sacrifice.
plfrench said:
Beacause left to their own devices, the mass public wouldn’t change as clearly evidenced on PH.
We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.
Simple really.
Err, fossil fuelled power stations generating the electricity, no?We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.
Simple really.
I think this looks great. They've managed to keep it dimensionally quite high too, which is how an SUV should be.
Some manufacturers (notably Porsche with the new Macan) have actually lowered the height of the vehicle (and the hip line of the drivers seat), in turn reducing the 'sitting higher up' feeling that most people buy an SUV for in the first place. Which rather defeats the object.
Some manufacturers (notably Porsche with the new Macan) have actually lowered the height of the vehicle (and the hip line of the drivers seat), in turn reducing the 'sitting higher up' feeling that most people buy an SUV for in the first place. Which rather defeats the object.
cue ernest discussion about a vehicle with "precisely tuned driving dynamics" but a physics defying weighing 2.5 tons, 4.7m long and 1.7m high. The SQ8 is even more pointless.
The benefits of EV with a cd value of .28, the benefits to the environment of using 2x the materials of a normal car and 21 inch wheels & 355 tyres.
Their only utility - making driver feel important & driven by the muppetry.
The benefits of EV with a cd value of .28, the benefits to the environment of using 2x the materials of a normal car and 21 inch wheels & 355 tyres.
Their only utility - making driver feel important & driven by the muppetry.
V8V Quadcamboy said:
plfrench said:
Beacause left to their own devices, the mass public wouldn’t change as clearly evidenced on PH.
We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.
Simple really.
Err, fossil fuelled power stations generating the electricity, no?We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.
Simple really.
So nope - and even if they were, the efficiency and local air quality arguments
The only thing that puts me off this (and many other recent models) is the lack of physical HVAC controls.
Audi are pushing voice control, so when you're out with your mates or family and you want to adjust the heater, it's risk everything by trying to stab the touchscreen in the right places, or make yourself look a right knob by interrupting whatever conversation was taking place at the time by telling everyone to be quiet and then say 'Hey Audi.....turn the heater up to xx'.
It seems they spent all the money they saved on not having physical HVAC controls on the further embarrassing headlights/tail lights gimmickry. Utter madness.
Audi are pushing voice control, so when you're out with your mates or family and you want to adjust the heater, it's risk everything by trying to stab the touchscreen in the right places, or make yourself look a right knob by interrupting whatever conversation was taking place at the time by telling everyone to be quiet and then say 'Hey Audi.....turn the heater up to xx'.
It seems they spent all the money they saved on not having physical HVAC controls on the further embarrassing headlights/tail lights gimmickry. Utter madness.
wormus said:
Gordon Hill said:
wormus said:
SDK said:
wormus said:
Yep, annoy your neighbours by taking up both sides of your new build’s shared drive. Sacrifice your salary so you can complain about being skint and cost of nursery fees which should be funded by the tax payer, and of course your empty fridge. Still you have a 7kw charger thrown in with the cost of stamp duty, carpets and a fake lawn so life’s good.
Bitter much 
My nursery fees finished and now those funds go to my car. My fridge is plenty full too !
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