RE: Latest Defender gets surprise 350hp diesel
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Nish Gnackers said:
ettore said:
We have the D350 engine in our family wagon RRS. Would have to say that it’s a lovely thing - super smooth, refined with a huge gob of torque. It’s also impressively efficient.
Me too ... superb engine. As for efficiency, Sandbanks to Nottingham....Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 8th May 16:11
smilo996 said:
Spiros115 said:
LooneyTunes said:
Spiros115 said:
Whatever the power lump I have to say Land Rover are making possibly the nicest paint options in motoring at the moment, seen loads of new and interesting coloured RR sports and FFRRs, really like that shade too.
They’re actually quite limited on paint choices on Defender (especially if you don’t want black/grey/silver). There are even restrictions between models within the range. For example, there’s a dark red that MrsLT wanted on her 110 that for some reason was 130 only.
cerb4.5lee said:
Nish Gnackers said:
ettore said:
We have the D350 engine in our family wagon RRS. Would have to say that it’s a lovely thing - super smooth, refined with a huge gob of torque. It’s also impressively efficient.
Me too ... superb engine. As for efficiency, Sandbanks to Nottingham....Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 8th May 16:11
hu8742 said:
Why the skinny low profile when it's a 4x4, not a sports car.
Haven't you noticed? Most owners never drive these things off road and couldn't care less which wheels are driven, or how silly and uncomfortable the low profile tyres are. They just think the wheels look good. And for most of these people, looking good is all that matters.ducnick said:
On the 3 cylinder question, I can’t imagine it myself in something big and heavy. I have never driven or ridden a nice 3 cylinder. Even the triumph motorcycle 3 cylinder which is considered very nice, is in my opinion less desirable than 2 or 4 cylinder engines from competitors.
It depends on the 2 or 4 cylinder bike you're comparing it to. I have 3 3-cylinder bikes (Triumph 675 racebike, Triumph 955 and a Benelli 1130). While the 955 has its charms, yes, I would have preferred a contemporaneous 2 or 4 cylinder. But there would not be a single other supersport bike I would take over the 675 (and I do still have a Kawasaki ZX6R race bike, as well as having formally raced an R6 in the same class back in the day), and as for the Benelli? It's like a Nascar - I bloody love that engine (and played a massive reason why I chose it over an equivalent Multistrada/Tiger/XR/GS/Whatever, seeing as I have enough V-Twins as it is!). While a proper V-Twin will always be my favourite, I can't think of any 4 cylinder bike I would take over my Triumph 675 or Benelli 1130.I was getting indignant about the Ingenium engines proven unreliability comments. I hadn’t realised the older 4 cylinders were also called Ingenium and they do seem to have had some issues. I couldn’t find any consistent problems with the 6 cylinders although of course they are relatively new. Time will tell I guess but for now I can say that the economy and driving characteristics of the 6 cylinders are particularly good.
i just finalised the spec on my Discovery two weeks ago and now the D350 has replaced the D300 that i ordered... so feeling a bit miffed.
Has anyone ever had any joy in getting a change like that done after the last spec date? I'm waiting to hear back from the dealership. It's not due until mid-July.
Has anyone ever had any joy in getting a change like that done after the last spec date? I'm waiting to hear back from the dealership. It's not due until mid-July.
GianiCakes said:
I was getting indignant about the Ingenium engines proven unreliability comments. I hadn’t realised the older 4 cylinders were also called Ingenium and they do seem to have had some issues. I couldn’t find any consistent problems with the 6 cylinders although of course they are relatively new. Time will tell I guess but for now I can say that the economy and driving characteristics of the 6 cylinders are particularly good.
There was a thread about a guy rebuilding an ingenium 4 pot, the thing was so woefully under engineered it was practically a basket case out of the factory. Designed to fail at the earliest opportunity.With a history of snapped crankshafts on the older v6s and then this it just smacked of JLR engineering failure in cars that already went wrong rather a lot anyway. Rather contemptuous of their customer base I think. I know all manufacturers do this but it’s no excuse imo and I think they deserve the criticism.
I’ve yet to hear about the straight six ingeniums reliability but honestly I’m not holding my breath.
cerb4.5lee said:
Nish Gnackers said:
ettore said:
We have the D350 engine in our family wagon RRS. Would have to say that it’s a lovely thing - super smooth, refined with a huge gob of torque. It’s also impressively efficient.
Me too ... superb engine. As for efficiency, Sandbanks to Nottingham....Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 8th May 16:11
Interesting, my V8 would have averaged high-20s on the above run, so 15mpg worse - but it only does such journeys perhaps once a month, hence the scant regard for fuel consumption. Sorry Greta.
tr3a said:
hu8742 said:
Why the skinny low profile when it's a 4x4, not a sports car.
Haven't you noticed? Most owners never drive these things off road and couldn't care less which wheels are driven, or how silly and uncomfortable the low profile tyres are. They just think the wheels look good. And for most of these people, looking good is all that matters.Most people don't give a s
t at beards asserting that SUVs are '4x4's and that they *must* be used extensively off-road in order to justify the purchase decision to the aforementioned moaning beards. Much in the same way Elise/Caterham/etc owners don't give a st whether their car is used on a race track extensively enough to justify the purchase.Julian Scott said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Nish Gnackers said:
ettore said:
We have the D350 engine in our family wagon RRS. Would have to say that it’s a lovely thing - super smooth, refined with a huge gob of torque. It’s also impressively efficient.
Me too ... superb engine. As for efficiency, Sandbanks to Nottingham....Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 8th May 16:11
Interesting, my V8 would have averaged high-20s on the above run, so 15mpg worse - but it only does such journeys perhaps once a month, hence the scant regard for fuel consumption. Sorry Greta.
cerb4.5lee said:
Julian Scott said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Nish Gnackers said:
ettore said:
We have the D350 engine in our family wagon RRS. Would have to say that it’s a lovely thing - super smooth, refined with a huge gob of torque. It’s also impressively efficient.
Me too ... superb engine. As for efficiency, Sandbanks to Nottingham....Edited by cerb4.5lee on Wednesday 8th May 16:11
Interesting, my V8 would have averaged high-20s on the above run, so 15mpg worse - but it only does such journeys perhaps once a month, hence the scant regard for fuel consumption. Sorry Greta.
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