RE: Lexus IS-F | Spotted

[Bladedancer]

fflump said:

Bladedancer said:

stuart100 said:

jim-k0nxx said:

20k though. I mean, I know stuff is expensive now but, it looks like maybe 5 or 6k to me, max.

5 or 6k? For a premium performance V8? You sound tighter than a drum.

I bet it's a question of seeing a Lexus badge and thinking "rebranded Toyota is good only for an Uber so not worth much".

More a question of newer E63s with similar or less mileage available for less.

I hear you but there a problem - it's a Mercedes.

[carinaman]

The 'You could get a Bentley for that price' comparison was interesting given the bork a Bentley could throw up.

Regarding brand and perception. I like Toyotas and couldn't give a stuff what others think. I think there was a pearl white one in my town.

That a C63 with the same or less miles were available was news to me.

[toothy1911]

Had my 2011 from new. 60K miles on it now and nothing has gone wrong. Drives as it did on day 1.
Just bought a new set of OEM Brembo discs and pads all round for £500. Will fit myself at the weekend.
Only considering selling due to a growing family. So many times I've looked to replace it, but nothing has been better all around for what it's worth. Superb value for money in my eyes.
Tax and fuel is expensive. Insurance so-so. Serviced every year at Lexus for £200-300 for the usuals.

[Lovey1]

For those that say it was pasted in it's day here's CAR's long term report. Whilst maybe not without fault, it was hardly pasted:
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-ter...

[Heaveho]

Cups Renault said:

It's a 16 year old Japanese saloon closing in on six figures mileage.

It should be far nearer 5/6k than the delusional 20k
Wasn't special new, has never been acclaimed as a great of it's era. Comical pricing and defence of the price here.

How long did you own yours for, and what wasn't good about? it We had one for a couple of years more than a decade ago. One of the few cars I really regret selling and I've had a lot since then. I won't defend the standard suspension, way too hard. I did something about it though, 16 way adjustables put that right. A truly epic car to throw down a decent road.

Only people who don't really know anything about them criticise them. It's a much better ownership prospect than many of it's so called competitors.

[craig9367]

Had one for 5 years, faultless.

Sold it 2 years ago for almost what I paid for it and still miss the sound.

Brilliant cars, £5k

[stuart100]

cerb4.5lee said:

I've always liked these as a nice alternative to the M3/C63. I've grown to love 2 pedal cars over the years in fairness, but I wouldn't mind trying both this and the C63 with a manual gearbox though.

I think personally I'd much prefer the engine in this(and the C63) over the relatively torque light V8 in the M3 to be honest. The V8 in the M3 never felt like a V8 to me if you understand what I mean.

So many people moved on to F8x M4s only to go back to the V8. A lot of people accept you have to rev it to get the best out of it. You have to find your moments depending on where you live.

[CountyAFC]

CountyAFC said:

fflump said:

CountyAFC said:

jim-k0nxx said:

20k though. I mean, I know stuff is expensive now but, it looks like maybe 5 or 6k to me, max.

The mistake is yours not the markets.

£5k/£6k don't be silly.

He is right that £20k is a bit punchy for a 16 year old Japanese saloon. You could get a similar age /mileage Bentley Continental for that

Edited by fflump on Thursday 23 May 08:02

£20k Bentley? Go for it. Rather you than me.

People like cars that work.

The market sets the price. Lexus values, as the models get older, strengthen in comparison to its competitors, because Lexus are superbly reliable.

Maybe it should be nearer £15k but £5k is nonsense.

fflump said:

I already have a Bentley but thanks for the advice.

A £20k one? Best of luck.

fflump said:

The market sets the sale price not the asking price. I still think it is too high.

As do I, as stated in my last sentence.

[llcoolmac]

Lovey1 said:

For those that say it was pasted in it's day here's CAR's long term report. Whilst maybe not without fault, it was hardly pasted:
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-ter...

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-f-2008-2014/351635-evo-magazine-m3-vs-is-f.html

Exactly. Another 5 star review from Evo which to it's credit has always been the best and most objective UK car magazine. It was well received at the time.

[fflump]

CountyAFC said:

CountyAFC said:

fflump said:

CountyAFC said:

jim-k0nxx said:

20k though. I mean, I know stuff is expensive now but, it looks like maybe 5 or 6k to me, max.

The mistake is yours not the markets.

£5k/£6k don't be silly.

He is right that £20k is a bit punchy for a 16 year old Japanese saloon. You could get a similar age /mileage Bentley Continental for that

Edited by fflump on Thursday 23 May 08:02

£20k Bentley? Go for it. Rather you than me.

People like cars that work.

The market sets the price. Lexus values, as the models get older, strengthen in comparison to its competitors, because Lexus are superbly reliable.

Maybe it should be nearer £15k but £5k is nonsense.

fflump said:

I already have a Bentley but thanks for the advice.

A £20k one? Best of luck.

fflump said:

The market sets the sale price not the asking price. I still think it is too high.

As do I, as stated in my last sentence.

No I don't have a £20k Bentley and it's under manufacturer warranty till March '27. I am not that brave!

[cerb4.5lee]

stuart100 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I've always liked these as a nice alternative to the M3/C63. I've grown to love 2 pedal cars over the years in fairness, but I wouldn't mind trying both this and the C63 with a manual gearbox though.

I think personally I'd much prefer the engine in this(and the C63) over the relatively torque light V8 in the M3 to be honest. The V8 in the M3 never felt like a V8 to me if you understand what I mean.

So many people moved on to F8x M4s only to go back to the V8. A lot of people accept you have to rev it to get the best out of it. You have to find your moments depending on where you live.

Yes, but as a daily driver I much prefer the F82 M4 DCT to the old E92 M3 Manual in every way for sure though. The M4 is a miles better car in that regard for me. However on the rare occasion that I did get to stretch the M3's legs, it was awesome then though for certain. The induction noise is really special in the E9x M3 as well I reckon.

I'd never personally go back to the E92 M3 as a daily, however I would consider one as an occasional car though.

[stuart100]

cerb4.5lee said:

stuart100 said:

cerb4.5lee said:

I've always liked these as a nice alternative to the M3/C63. I've grown to love 2 pedal cars over the years in fairness, but I wouldn't mind trying both this and the C63 with a manual gearbox though.

I think personally I'd much prefer the engine in this(and the C63) over the relatively torque light V8 in the M3 to be honest. The V8 in the M3 never felt like a V8 to me if you understand what I mean.

So many people moved on to F8x M4s only to go back to the V8. A lot of people accept you have to rev it to get the best out of it. You have to find your moments depending on where you live.

Yes, but as a daily driver I much prefer the F82 M4 DCT to the old E92 M3 Manual in every way for sure though. The M4 is a miles better car in that regard for me. However on the rare occasion that I did get to stretch the M3's legs, it was awesome then though for certain. The induction noise is really special in the E9x M3 as well I reckon.

I'd never personally go back to the E92 M3 as a daily, however I would consider one as an occasional car though.

Agree. I have the E93 but with the DCT. So whilst I don't daily drive as I get the tube to work it I find it brillant for long trips. BMW manuals aren't that great TBH.

[Hilts]

T_S_M said:

Looks great, blue usually seems to command a bit of a premium, at least for asking prices.

[cerb4.5lee]

stuart100 said:

Agree. I have the E93 but with the DCT. So whilst I don't daily drive as I get the tube to work it I find it brillant for long trips. BMW manuals aren't that great TBH.

I definitely agree regarding BMW manuals for sure.

I often regretted going for the manual in fairness, and the DCT suits the engine better I think. Although at the time when I had it back in January 2013, I did like the idea of a V8 engine mated to a 3 pedal manual though. I really liked that combination in the Cerbera too, however the gearbox was much better in the Cerbera to be fair.

[stuart100]

cerb4.5lee said:

stuart100 said:

Agree. I have the E93 but with the DCT. So whilst I don't daily drive as I get the tube to work it I find it brillant for long trips. BMW manuals aren't that great TBH.

I definitely agree regarding BMW manuals for sure.

I often regretted going for the manual in fairness, and the DCT suits the engine better I think. Although at the time when I had it back in January 2013, I did like the idea of a V8 engine mated to a 3 pedal manual though. I really liked that combination in the Cerbera too, however the gearbox was much better in the Cerbera to be fair.

For a second car I would be happy with a good manual. But my car is a do it all car. So I went DCT as faster, easier as I have the choice to change gears and more MPG (not that I cared about that too much). I don't drive in traffic as such anyway.

[biggbn]

T_S_M said:

I've had my 2010 ISF for 16 months now and did 16k miles in the first year, and it's been fantastic. I've modified/improved mine slightly with an exhaust and some coilovers (the standard ride is atrocious) and it hasn't put a foot wrong. Cruises down the motorway with ease due to the 8-speed gearbox, and sounds awesome once you put your foot down.

Tax aside (£735 now!) it is one of the cheapest performance cars to run I've ever had.

It does 35mpg on a run.
I replaced all 4 discs and pads myself for £350.
Oil and filter service is £120 at my local specialist (I provide the materials).
Most consumables/parts are just from the other V8s in the Lexus range and loads of parts available from the states which are dirt cheap.

Hardly anyone knows what it is either. I get the odd nod of approval or thumbs up but most people haven't got a clue what it is.

Edited by T_S_M on Thursday 23 May 12:12

Stunning. I'd have this over any of its competitors. Others wouldn't and that's cool, the competition has some pretty compelling attributes! What I don't get is those who are so dismissive about cars they personally don't like and trot out tired, stereotypical criticisms to validate their dislike. Hey, each to their own. I'd love one of these or the newer RC-F over its competitors. What an engine, what a package, what a usable combination.

[Honourable Dead Snark]

I wish Lexus or even Toyota produced more practical performance cars for the UK market

[NGK210]

Lovey1 said:

For those that say it was pasted in it's day here's CAR's long term report. Whilst maybe not without fault, it was hardly pasted:
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-ter...

5-star Evo review, for LSD version, here:
https://www.evo.co.uk/lexus/is/6815/lexus-is-f-roa...

There’s now’t wrong with the cabins compared to the Germans.
Rubberised, soft-touch switchgear?
No.
But there’ll be no ‘sticky button’ syndrome, either.
All switchgear has a nice ‘clickyness’, and there’re quality soft-touch plastics where you’d expect.
The leather is beautifully soft and supple – and freakishly durable.
Excellent surround-sound Mark Levinson hi-fi also deserves a mention.
And it’s a double-wishbone front end – no cost-cutting MacPherson strut tat here.

[Limpet]

A colleague of mine had one as his daily.

Reckoned it was as reliable and easy to live with as any other Lexus, and it hadn't needed much other than routine servicing and tyres in 80,000 miles.

Sounded epic starting from cold at home time.

[Court_S]

I really like these.

I came close to buying one before my old 335i threw a wobbly. It was high mileage at 145k, but it was in fab condition and drove really well other than the ride which was pretty poor. I that a Haywood & Scott exhaust on it and sounded fab especially once the second intake flap opened.

The gearbox was impressive given its age and the paddles were lovely to use; aluminium with a really solid, satisfying clunk when you changed gear.

I can see why people turned their noses up at the interior when new. Some of the switchgear is a bit Mickey Mouse and wouldn’t have felt as posh as the German offerings when new. The upside though is that it lasts far better.

I don’t think the price is that nuts….look at what E90 M3’s are fetching now. The coupe is cheaper, but there are some nails out there.