RE: New Audi SQ6 e-tron gets 517hp, costs £93k

RE: New Audi SQ6 e-tron gets 517hp, costs £93k

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WY86

1,378 posts

29 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I don't hate it, though for private buyers it would need a hefty dealer contribution to make sense.

BikeSausage

443 posts

70 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Another overpriced and overweight graceless blob relying on blingy, gimmicky “light signatures “ to attract the attention seeking magpies.

Several Audis have been in my past, I’m not sure any will be in my future.

Harry_523

384 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th March
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For clarity, what do all the SUV/EV haters on here suggest we drive instead?

JAMSXR

1,556 posts

49 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Having recently purchased my first Audi (RS4) I’ve warmed to the brand. Impeccable build quality, subtle looks and a great ride are all things that make daily driving more enjoyable.

Cars like this don’t appeal to me, but they seem to make more sense in EV guise. In 3 years time it could be a contender for the family car.

Nish Gnackers

1,097 posts

43 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Nomme de Plum said:
wormus said:
Gordon Hill said:
wormus said:
SDK said:
wormus said:
Yep, annoy your neighbours by taking up both sides of your new build’s shared drive. Sacrifice your salary so you can complain about being skint and cost of nursery fees which should be funded by the tax payer, and of course your empty fridge. Still you have a 7kw charger thrown in with the cost of stamp duty, carpets and a fake lawn so life’s good.
Bitter much bounce
My nursery fees finished and now those funds go to my car. My fridge is plenty full too !
Hey, I’m a Gen-xer, approaching retirement and sitting on a pile of property. I also have a final salary pension, thanks in advance for paying for my retirement wink
Yes you can admire your own smugness while you've got time on your hands.
Yes, spend my days enjoying leisure and knowing the triple lock will protect me. Brilliant.
Why would someone who has the former care one jot about the latter?
Possibly because he will be collecting his state pension in the near future and his final salary pension is index linked ?

plfrench

2,474 posts

270 months

Tuesday 19th March
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V8V Quadcamboy said:
plfrench said:
Beacause left to their own devices, the mass public wouldn’t change as clearly evidenced on PH.

We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.

Simple really.
Err, fossil fuelled power stations generating the electricity, no?
You’ve just perfectly highlighted the problem with leaving it to the general public. The UK has been on an incredibly successful trajectory away from fossil fuels for electricity generation and yet people don’t realise it. 10 years ago, coal-fired power plants were the most common form of generation. This year, the final plant, Radcliffe in Nottingham closes. At the same time as this significant weaning off coal, we’re due to generate more electricity from wind than gas for the first time as an annual average this year.

There is also a huge amount more offshore wind coming to further bolster even more of a shift; Doggerbank (world’s largest offshore wind farm ) of the coast of Yorkshire had its first turbines installed last Nov with many more in the pipeline.

The whole puzzle is well thought through with generation comfortably matching EV adoption as per ZEV mandate. There is also the increasingly useful electrical interconnects network of cables between us and neighbouring counties where we can buy / sell electricity during periods of low / excess wind generation further reducing the reliance on gas during lulls. The first connection between UK and Germany is due to be switched on in ‘28.

Harry_523

384 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th March
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plfrench said:
V8V Quadcamboy said:
plfrench said:
Beacause left to their own devices, the mass public wouldn’t change as clearly evidenced on PH.

We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.

Simple really.
Err, fossil fuelled power stations generating the electricity, no?
You’ve just perfectly highlighted the problem with leaving it to the general public. The UK has been on an incredibly successful trajectory away from fossil fuels for electricity generation and yet people don’t realise it. 10 years ago, coal-fired power plants were the most common form of generation. This year, the final plant, Radcliffe in Nottingham closes. At the same time as this significant weaning off coal, we’re due to generate more electricity from wind than gas for the first time as an annual average this year.

There is also a huge amount more offshore wind coming to further bolster even more of a shift; Doggerbank (world’s largest offshore wind farm ) of the coast of Yorkshire had its first turbines installed last Nov with many more in the pipeline.

The whole puzzle is well thought through with generation comfortably matching EV adoption as per ZEV mandate. There is also the increasingly useful electrical interconnects network of cables between us and neighbouring counties where we can buy / sell electricity during periods of low / excess wind generation further reducing the reliance on gas during lulls. The first connection between UK and Germany is due to be switched on in ‘28.
Careful, you're using facts not given by the Daily Star, that's frowned upon here...

JAMSXR

1,556 posts

49 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Harry_523 said:
For clarity, what do all the SUV/EV haters on here suggest we drive instead?
To be fair it shouldn’t be a massive surprise that SUVs or EVs rank low in the popularity steaks on here.

We should obviously all be driving an Alpina estate with a TVR/911/Lotus for the weekend wink

PistonTim

525 posts

141 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Mouse Rat said:
ChrisCh86 said:
Not another expensive electric SUV, at what point does the market become over saturated with them?!!.

Edited by ChrisCh86 on Monday 18th March 18:37
That point has already started. ex company leases now flooding the 2nd hand market.
Ex company leases have ALWAYS flooded the 2nd hand market, how many 320D Efficient Dynamics or 316i do you think were ever bought privately?

PistonTim

525 posts

141 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Harry_523 said:
For clarity, what do all the SUV/EV haters on here suggest we drive instead?
Lotus Elise for the family - obviously!

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Harry_523 said:
plfrench said:
V8V Quadcamboy said:
plfrench said:
Beacause left to their own devices, the mass public wouldn’t change as clearly evidenced on PH.

We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.

Simple really.
Err, fossil fuelled power stations generating the electricity, no?
You’ve just perfectly highlighted the problem with leaving it to the general public. The UK has been on an incredibly successful trajectory away from fossil fuels for electricity generation and yet people don’t realise it. 10 years ago, coal-fired power plants were the most common form of generation. This year, the final plant, Radcliffe in Nottingham closes. At the same time as this significant weaning off coal, we’re due to generate more electricity from wind than gas for the first time as an annual average this year.

There is also a huge amount more offshore wind coming to further bolster even more of a shift; Doggerbank (world’s largest offshore wind farm ) of the coast of Yorkshire had its first turbines installed last Nov with many more in the pipeline.

The whole puzzle is well thought through with generation comfortably matching EV adoption as per ZEV mandate. There is also the increasingly useful electrical interconnects network of cables between us and neighbouring counties where we can buy / sell electricity during periods of low / excess wind generation further reducing the reliance on gas during lulls. The first connection between UK and Germany is due to be switched on in ‘28.
Careful, you're using facts not given by the Daily Star, that's frowned upon here...
Let’s not forget the new gas fired power stations that have just been announced and the landscape that’s being scarred by new pylons needed to transport this new electricity. Electric busses are the future, not electric cars. They carry more people and consume fewer resources, new ones take 2.5 hours to charge and can travel for 200 miles.

Harry_523

384 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th March
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wormus said:
Electric busses are the future, not electric cars. They carry more people and consume fewer resources, new ones take 2.5 hours to charge and can travel for 200 miles.
Thats really going to get some blood boiling biglaugh

Buses dont work now, making them electric wont change that

GT9

6,979 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Nish Gnackers said:
Excellent, good to such see cost-effective upgrades being put to good use.

Lucky we didn't choose hydrogen cars, otherwise the spend would be more than double.

J4CKO

41,853 posts

202 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Harry_523 said:
wormus said:
Electric busses are the future, not electric cars. They carry more people and consume fewer resources, new ones take 2.5 hours to charge and can travel for 200 miles.
Thats really going to get some blood boiling biglaugh

Buses dont work now, making them electric wont change that
Why dont buses work ?

Millions of people use them daily, I know its not very PH going on a bus but not every one is a wealthy middle age bloke with a "fleet" of cars, not everyone can afford one, not everyone can drive.

Its not a method I would choose but it does work, I used one recently, cost me £2, return taxi journey was like £30 biggrin

So it worked, I got on it, paid, travelled from Wilmslow to Altrincham and then got off, they dont run after about 9 hence the black cab at 12.

Thing is, if you dont have other options, you make the ones you do have work as best you can, not every single journey has to be covered by using a private car.

I welcome electric buses, mainly as they dont stink like the diesel ones tend to.

Gigamoons

17,807 posts

202 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Water Fairy said:
Can't see the battery tech being obsolete in 3 to 4 years time either. Sure things will have improved but if they still offer similar range to when new then they will serve a purpose for the 2nd/3rd owners
Not sure about this.
Think it was a Harry’s garage video where he was getting into battery degradation over time. Fact is it likely won’t offer the same range to the 2nd/3rd owner, it’s becoming an interesting talking point in the EV world.

One one hand the first owner can shrug and say ‘don’t care, not my problem’. But EV residuals are not great due to a limited market of used buyers interested and now there are questions arising about battery degradation that can’t be checked pre purchase. And so the first owner is potentially having to finance a higher % of depreciation, pushing up the monthlies.

GT9

6,979 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th March
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wormus said:
Let’s not forget the new gas fired power stations that have just been announced and the landscape that’s being scarred by new pylons needed to transport this new electricity. Electric busses are the future, not electric cars. They carry more people and consume fewer resources, new ones take 2.5 hours to charge and can travel for 200 miles.
That line of thinking just leads to fewer cars on the roads.
Binning EVs won't lead to more ICE being produced, the only viable pathway to keeping passenger car population going is electrification.
The pylons are also going to support electrification of home/commercial heating and industrial processes, so we get those anyway.

plfrench

2,474 posts

270 months

Tuesday 19th March
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wormus said:
Harry_523 said:
plfrench said:
V8V Quadcamboy said:
plfrench said:
Beacause left to their own devices, the mass public wouldn’t change as clearly evidenced on PH.

We need to wean the country off reliance on fossil fuels for the good of the long term economy and to take advantage of the renewables era for energy which the UK is very well placed to do so.

Simple really.
Err, fossil fuelled power stations generating the electricity, no?
You’ve just perfectly highlighted the problem with leaving it to the general public. The UK has been on an incredibly successful trajectory away from fossil fuels for electricity generation and yet people don’t realise it. 10 years ago, coal-fired power plants were the most common form of generation. This year, the final plant, Radcliffe in Nottingham closes. At the same time as this significant weaning off coal, we’re due to generate more electricity from wind than gas for the first time as an annual average this year.

There is also a huge amount more offshore wind coming to further bolster even more of a shift; Doggerbank (world’s largest offshore wind farm ) of the coast of Yorkshire had its first turbines installed last Nov with many more in the pipeline.

The whole puzzle is well thought through with generation comfortably matching EV adoption as per ZEV mandate. There is also the increasingly useful electrical interconnects network of cables between us and neighbouring counties where we can buy / sell electricity during periods of low / excess wind generation further reducing the reliance on gas during lulls. The first connection between UK and Germany is due to be switched on in ‘28.
Careful, you're using facts not given by the Daily Star, that's frowned upon here...
Let’s not forget the new gas fired power stations that have just been announced and the landscape that’s being scarred by new pylons needed to transport this new electricity. Electric busses are the future, not electric cars. They carry more people and consume fewer resources, new ones take 2.5 hours to charge and can travel for 200 miles.
The new type of gas power stations that are more efficient and able to switch on and off for hours at a time to provide boosts in case of high demand low generation events as opposed to the current type that were designed to be pretty much always on? Sensible move to ensure energy security. Again, another example of how the whole thing is being approached very logically.


Harry_523

384 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th March
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[quote=J4CKO]

Why dont buses work ?

They dont go from my front door to where I want to go, as quickly as I want to get there. My car does though, so ill stick with that, whatever powers it wink

Nomme de Plum

4,749 posts

18 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Nish Gnackers said:
Possibly because he will be collecting his state pension in the near future and his final salary pension is index linked ?
He is implying a degree of wealth. I interpreted piles of property as being several or at least more than one and with a personal pension the state pension is largely irrelevant. Income tax will be a multiple of the state pension amount anyway so the triple lock has little impact.