RE: 600hp Honda NSX Type S revealed in full
RE: 600hp Honda NSX Type S revealed in full
Thursday 12th August 2021

600hp Honda NSX Type S revealed in full

More power, less weight, and a renewed track focus for "best-handling production NSX ever"



There was a suspicion that the current Honda NSX (or Acura NSX, as it's known in the USA) would leave production with a whimper. Despite plenty of accolades it hasn't sold spectacularly well (in Europe, at least) and the odds of a direct replacement look slim. If Honda does a supercar again, it's surely going to be all electric. It's pleasing, then, to confirm that the run-out Type S - the runout special for the hybrid NSX - sounds like the real deal. This is not simply tacking on an evocative badge to shift the last few cars.

Power and torque are up marginally from standard, the totals now standing at 600hp and 492lb ft respectively. Though just 27hp and 16lb ft more than standard, the methods employed to achieve the gains are interesting. The pair of turbochargers are borrowed from the GT3 racer (upping the boost to 1.1 bar), the injectors are new and faster flowing, and the intercoolers are uprated as well. Combined, they mean the 3.5-litre, 75-degree V6 is contributing 520hp and 443lb ft to the grand total on its own. (Previously those figures were 500hp and 406lb ft.)

Honda says the Intelligent Power Unit that powers the motors is "used more efficiently", that usable battery capacity if up by 20 per cent and power by 10 per cent. There's even been a change of ratio for the front motor unit, to boost torque and improve the launch. All told this means more input dynamically from the electric side and a greater EV range, though Honda still won't actually quote one. So don't expect much.



The dual-clutch gearbox has been tweaked to reflect the new remit of the Type S, including a new Rapid Downshift feature (hold the downshift paddle for six tenths of a second for the lowest possible gear), more aggressive downshifts if you want to go down one by one and faster upshifts in Sport and Sport+ as well. Given the DCT was very good without being great before, these sound like welcome improvements. And that's before mentioning the most notable, which is a tweak in Track mode that allows downshifts a substantial 1,500rpm sooner than previously. Think of the difference, say, being able to change down at 6,000rpm rather than 4,500rpm might make on a circuit.

The chassis modifications suggest the NSX Type S would relish track driving, too. The offset of the new forged wheels increases the track by 10mm up front and 20mm at the rear, with standard Brembo brakes (six-piston front calipers, four-piston rear) behind them. There are new bespoke Pirelli P Zero tyres, in addition to reworked aerodynamics, with a rear diffuser inspired by the GT3 car, a larger front grille for more radiator air and a carbon spoiler to reduce lift at the front. The really committed can spec a Lightweight Package for their Type S, which saves 26kg. Mostly that's through the fitment of ceramic brakes - a carbon engine cover and caron steering wheel accents won't help much - but any saving on what's always been quite a heavy car is welcome.

Marshalling all this are the same drive modes familiar from the standard NSX. 'Quiet' focuses on that improved EV range to make silent progress wherever possible, Sport tenses up the dampers and makes the AWD system a bit more fun, Sport+ ramps up the torque vectoring even further (with quicker shifts, too) and Track is where the Type S really gets to strut its stuff: as well as the downshift changes, new sound profiles should ensure it sounds as good as it looks.



It's hard not to think this is how the NSX should have appeared back in 2015. Even in the muted Gotham Grey launch colour (nine others are available), there's presence and and a fair bit more aggression to this NSX - thank the new aero bits and the track increase for that. And very welcome it is, too. Additional tweaks include dark-tinted lights front and rear, 'Type S' decals, Berlina Black exhausts, and a carbon roof.

Another Monterey debutant, Acura says the NSX "is the ultimate expression of the brand's commitment to Precision Crafted Performance and firmly establishes Type S as Acura's performance halo." Hard to agree entirely on that given it's being established in very limited numbers for a very short time, but a few track-focused NSXes are better than none at all.

Which brings us to the bad news. Honda/Acura will make just 350 Type S NSXes (and only 70 in Gotham Grey), but 300 of those are already allocated for North America. And 30 are going to Japan from the Marysville Performance Manufacturing Centre where all the hybrid NSXes have been built. Which leaves just 20 remaining, and an awful lot of the world. Hopefully one or two can make it to the UK, though it seems unlikely given how few of the standard car sold. Fingers crossed, eh?

















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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,967 posts

249 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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This looks pretty good, I must say - like the article point out though, this how it should have been from the start.

Terminator X

20,930 posts

235 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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I was smitten with the NSX after seeing it at Goodwood many years ago. Shame for me that used prices never seem to get below £90k cry

TX.

APontus

1,935 posts

66 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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I'll take the old old one, thanks!

clacs2

317 posts

190 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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The looks are transformed to my eyes. Such a shame they are only making 350, maybe if they sell well a second batch will be on the table. Not likely, sadly.

Bencolem

1,192 posts

270 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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So the light weighting is achieved through the fitment of optional ceramic brakes, a carbon engine cover and carbon steering wheel accent? Not really more power and less weight then, just more power. Disappointing.

Lotusgav

170 posts

190 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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I love these as the left field choice and probably not massive running costs. Here in Aus (as usual) the price is massive though.

It’s essentially a fat Mclaren Artura and I think if I had the money that’s where it would go…

jimPH

3,981 posts

111 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Cockpit never looked that great though, they always manage to make their special cars feel ordinary.

Bright Halo

3,995 posts

266 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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It would be great to own just so you could say my car is Gotham grey! Where is my batsuit when you want it?
Although the power gains are modest I reckon it would be quite a different drive compared to the standard car if driven back to back.

foxhounduk

705 posts

211 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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I love how much better the Type S looks. I wish this car was £75k. I want one so bad!!

Don1

16,867 posts

239 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Why don't they stick with their normal naming convention? Type S is below a Type R, but the regurgitated text talks about 'ultimate blah blah blah'.

To me that says there's another one coming... Especially as those power figures don't look like much for such work...

Esceptico

8,897 posts

140 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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26 kg on a car that weighs 1700 (?) kg. And an extra 20 bhp when it already has 580. So no meaningful difference in performance. They should have done a proper R version and lost 150 - 200 kg. That might have transformed it.

Even though it costs more I would rather take an earlier Type R.

Harrypop

2,611 posts

153 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Bencolem said:
So the light weighting is achieved through the fitment of optional ceramic brakes, a carbon engine cover and carbon steering wheel accent? Not really more power and less weight then, just more power. Disappointing.
Which were all optional on the original version as well. I know the seats are pretty good in these but binning them for some light weight buckets would at least offer the opportunity to distinguish from what has gone before.

Always liked the car anyhow mind you.

PSB1967

505 posts

187 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Quiet mode; for sneaking out first thing without waking the neighbours? Fail as soon as the brakes are touched and the ceramics squeak and squawk. In fact, as I am told ceramic brakes need a lot of heat before they work properly, something not happening on normal UK roads, the squeak and squawk would be a common thing. That would become very tiresome very quickly.

the_hood

777 posts

225 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Looks great. Small gains in power and torque over the standard car but I don't think anyone was expecting crazy numbers. As per the original, seeing an NSX on the road will be rare sight.

British Beef

2,573 posts

196 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Esceptico said:
26 kg on a car that weighs 1700 (?) kg. And an extra 20 bhp when it already has 580. So no meaningful difference in performance. They should have done a proper R version and lost 150 - 200 kg. That might have transformed it.

Even though it costs more I would rather take an earlier Type R.
I suspect the only way they could drop close to that would be lose the whole hybrid and battery system, which would be a complete redesign of the car.

For motorheads, this car would have been 100 times better with a great engine and great gearbox (ideally manual), the rest of the package is there already.

Ray_Aber

976 posts

307 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Why do car manufacturers insist on ruining the looks of their sporty versions with the excessive use of black, especially the wheels? I really like the standard NSX, particularly in red or blue, but this is not to my taste at all. I find it vulgar and crass. I’ll stick to the original and its silver wheels, thanks.

Arsecati

2,789 posts

148 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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That looks bloody marvellous. Hard to believe such small tweaks can make such a difference, as I always found it looked rather 'generic' before. Fingers crossed it performs as well as it looks.

Lexmaster

65 posts

65 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Nice to see that Honda is still improving the NSX. Maybe one day they will make a full fat Type R version.
Would love to see one in the flesh though, really rare cars.

fido

18,922 posts

286 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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Yes credit to Honda for doing something .. but IMO a bit more than 20bhp is needed OR improve the hybrid side (better battery and motors) - maybe a bit of F1 tech with a regenerative turbo system. Who knows it might give it enough ooomph to avoid a misjudged undertake by an errant Mercedes.

Vee12V

1,411 posts

191 months

Friday 13th August 2021
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The should4VE thrown the hybrid stuff out, make it RWD and turn the boost up to 11.

Edited by Vee12V on Friday 13th August 09:42