RE: Mazda MX-5 (NC) BBR Supercharged | PH Review
RE: Mazda MX-5 (NC) BBR Supercharged | PH Review
Sunday 9th January 2022

Mazda MX-5 (NC) BBR Supercharged | PH Review

There's no such thing as a bad MX-5 - so how much improvement does a supercharger really deliver?



It's not often a supercharged car makes it to the news. In fact, once the JLR 5.0-litre V8 has breathed its last, it's hard to think of any other new cars with superchargers out there - besides the Lotus Emira, of course, but it too is using an old engine. As both turbos and electrified powertrains have improved, so the requirement for a belt-driven 'charger has waned. Which is a bit of a shame, given they offer a different powertrain experience. But such is the way of the world.

Thank goodness, then, for BBR, and its work with Corten Miller and its Rotrex conversions for the Mazda MX-5. Offered as another option alongside its turbocharger conversions and naturally-aspirated upgrades, the supercharged kit is pitched to those MX-5 customers keen to use their car more on track, given it needs revs for its best (peak power is at 7,000rpm) and is easier to keep cool in continuous hard use than the turbo. Specifically, exhaust gas and inlet air temps are kept lower with a supercharger rather than a turbo - and not hot is good as far as regular track driving goes. Buyers with existing N/A kits like the Super 200 will be pleased to know the 'charger works just fine with those upgrades, so it ought to be ideal if you need the extra muscle to deal with Fiesta STs on track days - keep the character, but with a dollop more performance.

Even in the cheaper, less powerful Stage 1 tune, this is still a 250hp NC MX-5 - 90hp more than the most potent standard car. Torque is up substantially, too, with 213lb ft at 5,350rpm, compared to 147lb ft for the regular 2.0-litre unit. With the temperature hovering around freezing, there's not much desire to try Stage 2 with more than 300hp and a smidge (227lb ft) extra torque. Let's save that for a hot summer's evening on track.



Nevertheless, this remains a very rapid little Mazda, even when dawdling about waiting for everything (the seat heaters, mainly) to get up to temperature. Though less about torque than the turbo conversions, this BBR MX-5 immediately feels more muscular; limiting the car to 3,500rpm while it warms through doesn't feel a hardship, because there's so much more performance everywhere.

Really, though, the supercharged cars want revs. By way of comparison, the turbo 1.5 version of the current MX-5 by BBR offers 197lb ft; even with the extra 500cc of capacity for this 2.0-litre, the older car musters just another 16lb ft, and needs more revs to do it. The turbochargers have always done a good job of mimicking the naturally-aspirated feel, but utilising a supercharger improves the situation even further. Any MX-5 thrives on engine speed, and never more so than here - but now there's some proper performance to support your commitment.

It's a right hoot, frankly. The final couple of thousand revs or so from peak torque to peak power really thrill as the MX-5 fizzes to its limiter. There's no hint of delay or reluctance, just power and noise building with revs like all the best sports cars, all the way to 7,500rpm; the supercharger simply lends the MX-5 the characteristics of a larger, gruntier, atmospheric engine. And the experience is just as good, if not better, than that summary suggests.



Handily, like so many tuned MX-5s, BBR's efforts broaden the inherent appeal of the car without fundamentally altering its character. It still responds dutifully to wringing out every gear, but also satisfies pulling fourth out of a village or overtaking confidently on an A-road. The feel of an MX-5 powertrain is undoubtedly retained, just with more oomph alongside a fine four-cylinder medley of a soundtrack. There really a bit of everything: it gurgles, rasps, screams, pops, and zings. There isn't any supercharger whine, but that has always felt an acquired taste anyway - it's not missed.

Now, clearly, such increases would be too much for a standard chassis to handle, so it's worth pointing out the other modifications belonging to BBR's demonstrator that will add some more heft to your final bill. As a more focused build designed for track, this one has coilover suspension to go with the uprated brakes, OZ wheels and Michelin PS4 tyres. While the new dampers are probably a bit much for a car not regularly tracked (they're too stiff for the body's rigidity on the road, making it a bit brittle), in the right situation they make the MX-5 feel pointy, alert, and alive like no other. In combination with the rev-happy engine overhaul, it's a really exhilarating, old-school roadster driving experience.

Consequently, the overall impression (if you'll excuse a well-worn cliche) is of a chunky and better trimmed Caterham. The supercharger gives the same effervescent nature to the power delivery that the senior Sevens offer, and suspension work confers incredible agility. Of course, the overall experience from the heavier, less powerful sports car isn't quite so intense, yet there are parallels to be drawn, most certainly.



Interestingly, BBR's main man says he prefers the turbo conversion, based on that slug of mid-range torque, although, subjectively speaking, the supercharger feels even more in keeping with the MX-5 ethos. Of course, that's the joy of the aftermarket scene - there's something to suit every preference. That said, a familiar level of fun also means the same observations apply to this conversion as to turbos and individual throttle bodies and V6 swaps: making an MX-5 noticeably faster is a lot of money to spend on what's typically an old, fairly cheap car. With a less than impressive interior. 'Twas ever thus, unfortunately.

To some, that'll remain a stumbling block, especially when someone points out the Porsche you could have had instead. But, honestly, as a driver's car, as something to get you up on a Sunday morning but also take to the shops when needed, a supercharged NC MX-5 must be one of the best ways to spend £20k. None of the standard charm has been sacrificed in the pursuit of improved performance (optional coilovers notwithstanding) - this is just a likeable and familiar sports car package made tangibly faster - and a whole lot better. Simple as that.


SPECIFICATION | BBR MAZDA MX-5 RC SUPERCHARGED

Engine: 1,999cc 4-cyl, supercharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 250@7,000rpm (160@7,000rpm)
Torque (lb ft): 213@5,350rpm (147@5,050rpm)
0-60mph: 5.3sec (7.9sec)
Top speed: 145mph (est.) (136mph)
Weight: 1,248kg (standard car)
MPG: 36.2mpg (standard, NEDC combined)
CO2: 181g/km (standard)
Price: c. £20k, assuming £10k purchase price for standard car. This one equipped with BBR Stage 1 Supercharger kit (£5,994), BBR 4-1 manifold (£534), BBR GT Silencer (£594), Tein Flex Z Damper Kit (including 4-wheel alignment), OZ Formula HLT wheels (£1,235), including VAT and fitting, for a total spend of £9,551.


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BogBeast

Original Poster:

1,145 posts

293 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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How straightforward is it to insure one of these after the mods?

samoht

7,291 posts

176 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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BogBeast said:
How straightforward is it to insure one of these after the mods?
With a significant upgrade like that I'd be on the phone to A-Plan, Adrian Flux or Sky Insurance. They won't blink at a long list of mods; the premium will be more than a stock MX-5, but probably not totally unreasonable for most.

spikyone

1,915 posts

130 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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BogBeast said:
How straightforward is it to insure one of these after the mods?
I'm paying under £400 for a GT86 with a supercharger, coilovers and other suspension work, front BBK, exhaust, alloys, and a list of other stuff so long it doesn't all fit on my insurance certificate (all declared though). As samoht said you have to go through a broker but as long as you're over 21 it won't necessarily break the bank.

This sounds like an absolute blast. If I didn't have the 86 I'd definitely want one, with similar power to mine (~300bhp) and 200kg lighter the MX5 will be properly quick.

leglessAlex

7,422 posts

171 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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Sounds like all the car anyone could ever need!

Obviously ~£20k opens the door to some pretty serious metal, but of course that will come with pretty serious running costs. I think this is a great way for someone to be able to maybe stretch themselves a little on the purchase cost but then not have to cut corners keeping it maintained.

curvature

572 posts

104 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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This is quite interesting as I have been considering a weekend car for some time.

My budget is up to £20k but this will involve me getting rid of my 640d GC and having something cheaper as a daily car.

As above though £20k gives me a whole load of cars to choose from and some that are likely to go up in value. I would love to know what one of these MX5's is worth as a used buy as I just cannot see it retaining much of the value taken to convert it.

A regular MX5 would be easy to sell but one modified like this would have a very limited market.

Just my thoughts.

Stuart70

4,166 posts

213 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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I have a 987 Boxster S and a track day R53 (supercharged) Mini with shortened pulley, coil overs etc.
This looks like when two become one. But I like my mix of spices, so for now will keep paying too much road tax and insurance.

Tempting though and BBR quality always looks really strong in their developments.

Maccmike8

1,612 posts

84 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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Having had supercharged cars in the past, for me the sweet spot in the BBR range is the ITB 225.

pb8g09

3,264 posts

99 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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Is it really £20k though? You could get a cheaper donor car than £10k and I’m sure you could do without the fancy wheels

JP__FOX

594 posts

265 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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pb8g09 said:
Is it really £20k though? You could get a cheaper donor car than £10k and I’m sure you could do without the fancy wheels
You can pick up a nice early NC for less than half that (as I did) but spending a lot more than the value of the car on a supercharger does feel a bit painful so I can see the rationale for spending a few k extra on a newer car to start with.

dxg

10,789 posts

290 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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samoht said:
BogBeast said:
How straightforward is it to insure one of these after the mods?
With a significant upgrade like that I'd be on the phone to A-Plan, Adrian Flux or Sky Insurance. They won't blink at a long list of mods; the premium will be more than a stock MX-5, but probably not totally unreasonable for most.
My heavily-modded (including a four point cage) Mark 1 was insured through Greenlight. It was always interesting to see who the actual underwriter was when the documents turned up each year. Seemed to change annually...

CABC

6,304 posts

131 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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pb8g09 said:
Is it really £20k though? You could get a cheaper donor car than £10k and I’m sure you could do without the fancy wheels
that's what I'd do, mostly because I'd want to spend more £ on some really light wheels. losing unsprung kgs on this sort of car is a wonderful upgrade.

a fully modded 5 isn't cheap but it'll be one of the very best cars you'll ever drive. stretching further to a base Cayster would be a massive downgrade. Not many buyers care enough about the driving experience though.

Simon Owen

894 posts

164 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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Not an NC and not supercharged but we waded in at the upper end of the budget for doing this type of thing with a NA package on the ND.

5.5 years in and it’s done what I expected. 100% reliability, peanuts to service, insure, super easy ownership and 35+ mpg to boot over a pretty spirited no of miles since ownership.

The Boxter is an obvious choice, and a very good one, we just decided the BBR would be just as much (more ?) fun in the real world on typical Blighty B roads at non licence loosing speeds.


fantheman80

2,666 posts

79 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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"Interestingly, BBR's main man says he prefers the turbo conversion"

Hope he is not the salesman

blearyeyedboy

6,811 posts

209 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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It's a breath of fresh (compressed) air to read an article like this instead of an article about funny BMW paint.

The NC is often criticised for being heavier/blobbier than other MX5s but it's really not that bad and is in keeping with car trends at the time. It's good to see one have some proper love and attention lavished on it.

I have two small kids and need rear seats. I have no space in the garage for this right now, no funds to buy it and no time to go out and enjoy driving it. Nevertheless, it's joyous to this petrol head that a company is still out there making things like this.

Long may BBR and others like them continue.

(I wonder how effective one of their tuned last-gen Mazda3s are... scratchchin )

Edited by blearyeyedboy on Saturday 8th January 12:06

identti

2,389 posts

255 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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Maccmike8 said:
Having had supercharged cars in the past, for me the sweet spot in the BBR range is the ITB 225.
I had a BBR Super 225 for 6 months last year (also had an ITBd mk1 for years). Enjoyed it for a little while but the lack of torque wore a bit thin. Was only exciting at 6000rpm+, which with quite long gearing with the increased rev limit meant it was hard to achieve unless on totally empty roads or on track. It was also VERY loud inside the cabin at WOT. Also the fact it would struggle to do much more than 20mpg after the conversion was a bit frustrating!

Conversely, my friend's BBR Stage 2 turbo (300bhp) does far better mpg and has a whole lot more useful torque, meaning you don't have to wring it's neck just to go quicker than regular traffic. For road use I think the turbo conversion makes the most sense, as the rotrex 'chargers aren't particularly torquey low down just like my Super 225 wasn't.

CABC

6,304 posts

131 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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identti said:
I had a BBR Super 225 for 6 months last year (also had an ITBd mk1 for years). Enjoyed it for a little while but the lack of torque wore a bit thin. Was only exciting at 6000rpm+, which with quite long gearing with the increased rev limit meant it was hard to achieve unless on totally empty roads or on track. It was also VERY loud inside the cabin at WOT. Also the fact it would struggle to do much more than 20mpg after the conversion was a bit frustrating!

Conversely, my friend's BBR Stage 2 turbo (300bhp) does far better mpg and has a whole lot more useful torque, meaning you don't have to wring it's neck just to go quicker than regular traffic. For road use I think the turbo conversion makes the most sense, as the rotrex 'chargers aren't particularly torquey low down just like my Super 225 wasn't.
I love low down torque in a daily, but not a sports car.

andy97

4,784 posts

252 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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If you are going to spend that sort of money, you need to be confident that the rust treatment is good.
That’s not a criticism, but MX5 chassis, of all eras, are known for it.

usualdog

242 posts

193 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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fantheman80 said:
"Interestingly, BBR's main man says he prefers the turbo conversion"

Hope he is not the salesman
It was a very shrewd thing to say, he knows the supercharger will fly off the shelves, but they've probably got a few unsold turbo kits gathering dust!

redroadster

1,886 posts

262 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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For a few bits of metal price too high, can't someone print the components for a few hundred quid or is that wishful thinking?

leglessAlex

7,422 posts

171 months

Saturday 8th January 2022
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redroadster said:
For a few bits of metal price too high, can't someone print the components for a few hundred quid or is that wishful thinking?
hehe

..... wait, that was a joke... right?