RE: Rimac Nevera doesn't leave us cold
RE: Rimac Nevera doesn't leave us cold
Monday 11th April 2022

Rimac Nevera doesn't leave us cold

Most buyers probably won't take their 1,900hp EV into the snow, but it's nice to know they can...



Winter testing isn't typically a glamorous affair, with hard-worked prototypes driven to destruction in far-flung (and flipping freezing) corners of the earth. Seemingly nobody told Rimac, however; as part of final sign off for the Nevera's ESP, ABS and torque vectoring, the 1,914hp EV has been tested at Pirelli's 'Sottozero Centre' in Sweden, and at the same time been photographed in spectacular fashion. No creeping about in the snowy sludge here - this looks about as appealing as winter testing gets. That some of it had to happen at night because temps were to warm during the day only makes the spectacle cooler (no pun intended).

Of course, prior work with less pristine cars has clearly been in motion for awhile - and this surely isn't representative of customer use - but nothing quite gees up enthusiasm for a new car like silly, snowy powerslides. It's easy to be cynical about 2,000hp EV hypercars, but who wouldn't want a go in this? There was more to the Swedish sojourn than merely killer snaps for the 'gram, too, as Rimac used the opportunity to test the Nevera's winter tyre option. Unsurprisingly given the location, it's a Pirelli P Zero Winter, to go alongside the standard Pilot Sport 4S. Pirelli's involvement with tyre development is shown by a marking on the sidewall. So if any of the 150 Nevera buyers want to use their car year round, they'll have all the tools required at their disposal...

 

Miroslav Zrn?evi?, Bugatti Rimac Chief Test and Development Driver (fantastic job title, btw), said: "Testing on a low grip surface like this allows us to make consistent and accurate observations on how our systems are performing in low temperatures. Things happen much more slowly than they would do on asphalt, and we have nice, even, smooth handling tracks so we know the data we get isn't affected by surface imperfections or temperature swings. After these two weeks of testing, we're happy to see exactly the results we wanted to achieve."

Mate Rimac himself added that the test was useful for "the final 0.1 per cent of polish" to the car, ahead of imminent deliveries. He said the car "performed at 100 per cent throughout" the two weeks at minus fifteen - though there was no comment on what the temperature (and the hooning about) did for the Nevera's claimed 340-mile range. More encouragingly, Rimac said that his aim for the car and the testing time - "creating a rewarding, but safe, drive in a 1,914hp car with four independent electric motors while also building a chassis that delivers delicate on-the-edge adjustability" - has been achieved. Which certainly sounds exciting. It's only a couple of months now until customers get to experience all that for themselves - though maybe start on the black stuff first, eh...



















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Wab1974uk

Original Poster:

1,426 posts

58 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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1300 bhp too much. But HayHo.

Guess that's the only way they can justify expensive supercar EV's

Panamax

10,094 posts

65 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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With that generic body shape it makes a McLaren or Emira look remarkably good value.

WCZ

11,570 posts

225 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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Wab1974uk said:
1300 bhp too much. But HayHo.

Guess that's the only way they can justify expensive supercar EV's
if you paid extra they might be able to restrict the power for you then as you get more comfortable with it perhaps you could get them to gradually unrestrict it


Isebac

251 posts

69 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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So when DOES it actually reach production? It was "a couple months away" from that a year ago when all the press drives happened.

MIP1983

210 posts

236 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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I'm sure it's great fun and technically amazing, not very pretty to me though. Much prefer the Pininfarina Battista.

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

72 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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WCZ said:
Wab1974uk said:
1300 bhp too much. But HayHo.

Guess that's the only way they can justify expensive supercar EV's
if you paid extra they might be able to restrict the power for you then as you get more comfortable with it perhaps you could get them to gradually unrestrict it
I have a device fitted in my car for just that purpose. It’s called the accelerator hehe

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

72 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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Would be interested to see exactly how they did the testing and the effect on range
I did a 50 mile journey in my polestar on Saturday with the heating turned up and the heated seats on - it reduced my range by 100 miles.
I typically now drive in a coat in the heater is pretty useless and eats the range big time. Which is why they suggest you preheat the car while it is still plugged in

HardtopManual

2,940 posts

197 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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Slowlygettingit said:
I did a 50 mile journey in my polestar on Saturday with the heating turned up and the heated seats on - it reduced my range by 100 miles. I typically now drive in a coat
"Progress"

Whydoyoutalkcrap

222 posts

244 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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Given Nevera is Spanish for Refrigerator, cold testing seems very appropriate.

sidesauce

2,967 posts

249 months

Monday 11th April 2022
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Wab1974uk said:
1300 bhp too much.
Why?

LordFlathead

9,646 posts

289 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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Wab1974uk said:
1300 bhp too much. But HayHo.

Guess that's the only way they can justify expensive supercar EV's
Not like an ICE car where feeding in power is a skill. With an EV it never wheelspins, just grips and goes. The computers can adapt way faster than an ICE car so 1300hp is not wasted by cutting fueling or retarding ignition etc.

Pusikurac

121 posts

71 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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Whydoyoutalkcrap said:
Given Nevera is Spanish for Refrigerator, cold testing seems very appropriate.
It is "storm" or "very bad weather" in Croatian.

GTRene

22,784 posts

255 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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its a nice looking car, also great video, loved that 380 flip under control, cool.

sidesauce

2,967 posts

249 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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Isebac said:
So when DOES it actually reach production? It was "a couple months away" from that a year ago when all the press drives happened.
I guarantee this will be on sale before Tesla's Roadster.

easytiger123

2,719 posts

240 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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sidesauce said:
Isebac said:
So when DOES it actually reach production? It was "a couple months away" from that a year ago when all the press drives happened.
I guarantee this will be on sale before Tesla's Roadster.
First UK customer cars (Rimac not the Tesla!) apparently arriving in June.

Gareth9702

400 posts

163 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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So much publicity. But exactly how many completed cars have Rimac sold?

Vee12V

1,411 posts

191 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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MIP1983 said:
I'm sure it's great fun and technically amazing, not very pretty to me though. Much prefer the Pininfarina Battista.
Not really as that looks pretty bland as well.

giveitfish

4,423 posts

245 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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Both cars were at Goodwood last year - in the flesh they looked big and heavy, with massive overhangs.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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Slowlygettingit said:
Would be interested to see exactly how they did the testing and the effect on range
I did a 50 mile journey in my polestar on Saturday with the heating turned up and the heated seats on - it reduced my range by 100 miles.
I typically now drive in a coat in the heater is pretty useless and eats the range big time. Which is why they suggest you preheat the car while it is still plugged in
So your cabin heater used twice as much energy as the actually journey? I'm calling b*ll*cks, sorry.


50 miles at an average speed of 40mph is 75min (4500 seconds)

Your polestar probably does around 3 ml/kWh, so 100 miles of range is 33 kWh.

33 kWh used in 4500 seconds is an average power of 7.2kW

You car would be on fire is you had contnuously pumped 7.3kW into the cabin! (and the cabin heater isn't actually that powerful)


(heated seats are around 150 watts each at peak, but fall to around 75w once up to temp)


Typical cabin air heating loads in the Uk sit at around 5 kW for an inital period of about 20 min, then fall to around 2 kW to maintain that temperature. You 75 min journey therefore will have used approximately 3.8 kWh, or about the energy needed to move your car 1.3 miles


If you the range displaid fell by 100 miles then this was due to other factors (such as battery temperature, driving style, ambient conditions, average speed etc)




Pistotter

32 posts

85 months

Tuesday 12th April 2022
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Max_Torque said:
So your cabin heater used twice as much energy as the actually journey? I'm calling b*ll*cks, sorry.


50 miles at an average speed of 40mph is 75min (4500 seconds)

Your polestar probably does around 3 ml/kWh, so 100 miles of range is 33 kWh.

33 kWh used in 4500 seconds is an average power of 7.2kW

You car would be on fire is you had contnuously pumped 7.3kW into the cabin! (and the cabin heater isn't actually that powerful)


(heated seats are around 150 watts each at peak, but fall to around 75w once up to temp)


Typical cabin air heating loads in the Uk sit at around 5 kW for an inital period of about 20 min, then fall to around 2 kW to maintain that temperature. You 75 min journey therefore will have used approximately 3.8 kWh, or about the energy needed to move your car 1.3 miles


If you the range displaid fell by 100 miles then this was due to other factors (such as battery temperature, driving style, ambient conditions, average speed etc)
I think the basic premise of your maths is a bit out: 33kWh for 75 min is 26,4kW average power.