RE: Riding the Aston Valkyrie AMR Pro, Miami-style
RE: Riding the Aston Valkyrie AMR Pro, Miami-style
Wednesday 18th May 2022

Riding the Aston Valkyrie AMR Pro, Miami-style

Round two of PH's time with the Valkyrie. Now with more grip, less drama - and much more speed


Déjà vu? Me too. Last year I was lucky enough to get a passenger ride in the Aston Martin Valkyrie at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, sitting next to then-CEO Tobias Moers and experiencing the considerable thrills of feeling a not-quite production version of the hypercar deal with both a damp surface and a lack of traction control.

All three of those variables have been changed for my first passenger ride in the even-madder Valkyrie AMR Pro. Moers has departed, meaning the Valkyrie is now on its third Aston CEO; the surface of the Homestead-Miami Speedway in Florida is bone dry and probably hot enough to fry eggs on. And the AMR Pro has working traction control, as you’d expect given Aston says customer deliveries have already started. I’m going to be driven by the hugely experienced hands of Andy Priaulx, the sports and touring car veteran who has been heavily involved with development of the track-only version of the hypercar since the off. 

Karl Benz was probably giving journalists experiential passenger seat rides before formally launching his Patent Motor Wagen, and several conventions have grown around these not-drives over the decades. The first is that although excitement may be high, risk will be low: the deal is always thrills without spills. However fast it seems the pros charged with giving the demonstration will always be driving well within the limits of themselves and the car; the paperwork involved with killing or maiming a hack is going to be horrendous. 

Which is why hacks might tend to get a bit blasé about such amazing opportunities. I’ve sat next to Stig Blomqvist as he attacked a snow-covered Scandinavian trail in a SWB Quattro rally car, and in an AMG GT R around the Nordschliefe as one of Merc’s tame pros, put in a lap just 25 seconds off the then production car record. I treated both with the same insouciance as I would a rollercoaster ride. 

Yet this is definitely different. The Valkyrie might have had a tortuous and delayed gestation, but it’s hard not to get excited about the least restricted version of Adrian Newey’s no-rules hypercar. The road-legal version will certainly be blindingly fast, but the AMR Pro has been created around the promise of delivering performance comparable to an LMP1 race car. And I’m about to experience it on Homestead’s road course.

I’m going to be the third of six passengers during a morning session. Aston has ordered turns based on occupant size, from large to small, on the basis that it’s easier to tighten the AMR Pro’s harness straps than loosen them. It also means, as one of the engineers helpfully puts it, that Priaulx’s pace should increase as the session continues and the quantity of human ballast gets reduced. Watching from the pit wall during the first two runs shows that the AMR Pro does indeed look brutally fast as it streaks past on the road course’s truncated start-finish straight, but more striking is the noise made by the naturally aspirated V12: revving well beyond the point where my brain is expecting to hear it change up. Clearly all 11,000rpm are being used, even though the car is apparently in its 800hp mode, 200hp short of the full total.

I’m sweating in the hot sun and broiling in a black fireproof suit when the car returns to the pits for my turn. Although the AMR Pro has a substantially altered tub from the regular car, the process of getting in is as inelegant as it was in Goodwood last year. The approved technique is to stand on the seat base and then slide down. Once installed I’m lying more than sitting, with my ankles at pretty much the same height as my backside, but my helmeted head fits comfortably when the gullwing door is shut. Elbow room is much more limited. As indeed is arm room and upper body room; the only way for Priaulx to have space for twirling the yoke-style wheel is for me to sit with my left arm angled across my body.

Good news comes as Priaulx turns on the ignition: the air con starts blowing, although with more enthusiasm than chill. The car at Goodwood didn’t have a working fan. The view through the Pro’s windscreen is also pretty much unobscured, lacking the road-going car’s digital mirrors or central display screen. There isn’t even a windscreen wiper, although I later learn it is possible to fit one for any owners planning to use the car in wet conditions.

The AMR Pro starts to roll silently under pure electric power. It is possible to make a launch start using the engine and the clutch, but this more sympathetic pit lane mode reduces mechanical stress. The V12 fires at about 10mph and immediately fills the cabin with buzzing vibration; the passenger ‘seat’ is nothing more than bits of foam laid directly onto the carbon tub. Yet strangely it seems quieter and less buzzy than I remember the regular Valkyrie being last year.

It is less dramatic, too. The start of the Goodwood run felt properly edgy as the engine did battle with the rear tyres to try and find traction. There is no such drama on slicks and a hot surface; after a taking things (relatively) gently through a couple of corners Priaulx is fully on it. Apart from a single immaculately corrected rear-end breakway in one of the slower corners, there is no discernible sense of slip anywhere.

Aston says the AMR Pro can generate more than 2G of linear acceleration, but the forces pushing me back into the seat don’t feel ridiculous compared to those of a supercar, or even a fully launched Tesla. Even with just 80 percent of its output to call on the Valkyrie pretty much inhales straights, gobbling its shortened gearing as it does so. It is the braking and lateral forces that take me completely outside the frame of reference. The first big stop making my carefully tightened harnesses feel suddenly loose, and cornering loads are brutal, quickly sapping neck muscles as they struggle to keep my head upright.

The AMR Pro’s aero package makes downforce even at low speeds, but Homestead’s road course only has a couple of turns fast enough for it to be getting into some of the more ludicrous numbers it is capable of generating. Aston is refusing to get specific, but Adrian Newey’s promise the Pro would be able to make twice as much downforce as the regular Valkyrie suggests suggests a peak of around 2,700kg. This in a car insiders say weighs less than 1,000kg.

The loadings are definitely uncomfortable, but the view through the AMR Pro’s windscreen is compelling enough to stop me from acknowledging the increasingly queasy sensations building as my insides slosh around. It’s as if the world has had its playback speed turned up, all the stages of getting the car slowed, turned and back on the power seem to have been compressed. Yet Priaulx’s inputs remain calm and unhurried: the speeds feel impossible, the lack of drama proves that they’re not. Indeed well before the end of my four lap stint I’ve reached the unlikely conclusion that Priaulx isn’t actually pushing that hard.

“About eight tenths maybe,” he admits, when we get back to the pits. “I’m doing this all day, remember – and the car is, too.” Priaulx’s later victims include several buyers who haven’t experienced their own cars yet, and also Marek Reichmann, Aston’s creative director getting his first experience in the Pro’s passenger seat. He emerges looking uncharacteristically damp and ruffled. His conclusion? “If we do ever race it, we’re going to need to turn it down a bit.”

There is no official word on an LM Hypercar program to accompany the customer-spec cars, but it feels like it would be a very obvious thing to do. My biggest question after my first experience is how many of the 40 extremely wealthy AMR pro buyers are going to have either the talent or the physical stamina to unlock anything close to the car’s full potential. It will be fun watching them trying, though.


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samoht

Original Poster:

7,317 posts

177 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Looks good in the pics. Can't help feeling there are more questions that journalists could be asking about this car and this project, though...

The article said:
although excitement may be high, risk will be low: the deal is always thrills without spills.
Steve Sutcliffe said:
No way ... We're off.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Slowest car launch in history?

w0o0dy

20 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Read the article on Autocar too and it sure seems that you got some standard text from Aston Martin to play around with.. the whole text is basically identical. That is lame.

dbrbot

49 posts

75 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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The article said:
although excitement may be high, risk will be low: the deal is always thrills without spills.
Steve Sutcliffe said:
No way ... We're off.
Not seen that clip before. Fair play to sutcliffe there.

RacerMike

4,977 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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samoht said:
Looks good in the pics. Can't help feeling there are more questions that journalists could be asking about this car and this project, though...

The article said:
although excitement may be high, risk will be low: the deal is always thrills without spills.
Steve Sutcliffe said:
No way ... We're off.
Proper classic that. I remember watching that in period and reading about it. Pizzonia braked at the same point he would brake for T1 in his F1 car....

Turbobanana

8,541 posts

232 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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This picture makes it look like the rear wing is made of melted cheese:


NigelCayless

234 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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I'm sure it is a technical marvel but, unless you're actually a racing driver (which I am not) then I'm not sure what the point of it is. I doubt I would ever get close to using it to even 50% of its potential

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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article said:
Marek Reichmann, Aston’s creative director getting his first experience in the Pro’s passenger seat. He emerges looking uncharacteristically damp and ruffled. His conclusion? “If we do ever race it, we’re going to need to turn it down a bit.”
haha, right, perhaps you should stick to your crayons...... lol!


Isebac

251 posts

69 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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As expected, not a single word of explanation for why the car is now only targeting slower than LMP1 performance when just 2 years ago AM were still saying it was gonna be faster than F1 - and the road version is gonna be near that too! No word on why you are getting rides in the track version instead of the road version (that AM are claiming is "getting delivered") either. Not here and not in any of the other articles - the whole industry is just gonna pretend that their memory has been wiped. Pathetic.

RacerMike

4,977 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Max_Torque said:
article said:
Marek Reichmann, Aston’s creative director getting his first experience in the Pro’s passenger seat. He emerges looking uncharacteristically damp and ruffled. His conclusion? “If we do ever race it, we’re going to need to turn it down a bit.”

haha, right, perhaps you should stick to your crayons...... lol!


It astounds me he’s still able to run around doing all this stuff and not actually doing any ‘creative directing’.

I suppose when you’ve wiped out half the employees savings by taking 30m out of the IPO, constantly going on jollies to (badly) drive the latest AMR toy barely even registers.

WCZ

11,567 posts

225 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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w0o0dy said:
Read the article on Autocar too and it sure seems that you got some standard text from Aston Martin to play around with.. the whole text is basically identical. That is lame.
this article reads really strange, I was left confused about what the occupants actually thought of the car

Isebac

251 posts

69 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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w0o0dy said:
Read the article on Autocar too and it sure seems that you got some standard text from Aston Martin to play around with.. the whole text is basically identical. That is lame.


Dazed & Confused

209 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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w0o0dy said:
Read the article on Autocar too and it sure seems that you got some standard text from Aston Martin to play around with.. the whole text is basically identical. That is lame.
How different would you expect it to be, though? If he experienced something he’s going to write about it - he’s not going to intentionally leave out details just to make them totally different.

aestivator

265 posts

61 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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It'll no doubt appear in similar form on Car and Driver too - it's almost like the same person is writing it...

Lawdy007

4 posts

55 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Its funny how how everyone on this side of the pond knows thats Neweys car and was his design meant to be his road car legacy, yet if you read Jonny Leibermans report in Motor Trend it was designed by Marek. I questioned his comment that Marek designed it only to have him reply with. "I know he designed it because he told me so" It takes the pee that Aston and Marek are trying to erase Neweys involvment in his car.

thegreenhell

24,365 posts

250 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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w0o0dy said:
Read the article on Autocar too and it sure seems that you got some standard text from Aston Martin to play around with.. the whole text is basically identical. That is lame.
Freelance journalist sells story to as many publications as he can. It's not uncommon.

ch37

10,642 posts

252 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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w0o0dy said:
Read the article on Autocar too and it sure seems that you got some standard text from Aston Martin to play around with.. the whole text is basically identical. That is lame.

Er, it's the same journalist. Not uncommon at all.

Sandpit Steve

15,586 posts

105 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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If they keep giving hacks joyrides in the prototypes, will AM manage to evade the awkward questions about when the customer cars might be delivered?

RacerMike

4,977 posts

242 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
If they keep giving hacks joyrides in the prototypes, will AM manage to evade the awkward questions about when the customer cars might be delivered?
Road cars have already been delivered and as it says in the article the Pro’s are about to be. The Pro is a very different car though. Different monocoque, suspension and simplified electronics.

Isebac

251 posts

69 months

Wednesday 18th May 2022
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RacerMike said:

Road cars have already been delivered and as it says in the article the Pro’s are about to be. The Pro is a very different car though. Different monocoque, suspension and simplified electronics.

Yeah, they have been "delivered". Which in all other uses of the word means delivered, but in AM's usage it means delivered to dealerships where the cars will sit until AM can actually make the car work, which has so far been 5 months. Hence why people are getting rides in the AMR Pro and not the road car and why nobody has yet been given the chance to drive the road car.


Edited by Isebac on Wednesday 18th May 16:59