RE: Donkervoort unveils sensational 500hp F22
RE: Donkervoort unveils sensational 500hp F22
Monday 12th December 2022

Donkervoort unveils sensational 500hp F22

Sad that the slightly unhinged lightweight, manual supercar is no more? Donkervoort to the rescue


There’s an awful lot to be said for small, light, fast and efficient cars, especially when it comes to the performance sector. Surely taking things away to use fewer resources must be a better approach than adding them? Trouble is then, of course, the potential for creating a car that’s not really usable enough by modern standards: too tiny, too lacking in equipment, not safe enough. Donkervoort, however, reckons it has reached the ideal compromise of both for its latest car, the F22.  

Here's a front-mid-engine, rear-wheel drive car with 666hp-per-tonne, which is already a good start for a supercar. Just 2.5 seconds is required to reach 62mph, and the top speed is 180mph. It’s powered by the venerable Audi five-cylinder, too, so that’s the emotion box ticked. It’ll corner at up to 2.15g yet, thanks to a kerbweight of just 750kg, it also emits just 163g/km of CO2. Which is within 50g/km of the hybrid McLaren Artura. Oh yeah, and it’s manual as well, with rev match and flat shift technology… 

It gets better, too, because in response to customer feedback the F22 is the most accommodating Donkervoort ever. While still just about four metres long, there’s now an additional 80mm of shoulder room and 100mm of length in the interior. It looks positively plush in there by Donkervoort standards, too, with bespoke Recaro carbon seats, switches on the wheel and even an iPad integrated as the infotainment. Apparently, the harnesses are the first approved for both road and track use. Donkervoort says the F22 will deliver ‘an entirely new dimension of liveability and versatility when it is not being driven to the outer limits of its mountainous abilities.’ The roof can even be stored in bags that fit in the roof, so it doesn’t have to be saved just for sunny days. Though expect a little more effort than the conventional drop-top supercar. 

The F22 is a clever car underneath, too, built from steel, aluminium and a ‘generous serving’ of carbon fibre, including what’s called an ‘Ex-Core carbon sandwich system’. It contributes to a claimed 100 per cent increase in torsional rigidity over the old D8 GTO. Suspension is by TracTive adaptive dampers, with electronic valve control and ride height adjustment; the new set-up will ‘deliver during the calmest and most frenzied extremes of a driver’s demands.’ A lot is then up to the driver, in every sense, with power steering, ABS and even brake servo optional, for a bit of old-school supercar fear factor. There are AP discs at each corner - an entirely new system, actually, promising 1.12g - Nankang tyres and a Torsen limited-slip diff.  

Finally, it’s probably worth mentioning how the F22 looks. If a supercar should be attention-grabbing, and there are too many of the usual suspects around, then what could be better? It celebrates Donkervoort’s open-wheel heritage but offers something different, as well, with the twin-Targa carbon roof and rear end that’s ever so slightly reminiscent of the Lotus Emira. According to its maker, the F22 has ‘destroyed the modern supercar rulebook’.  

Donkervoort will make just 75 of these new cars, with the majority of that allocation spoken for already thanks to so much interest before the reveal. It’ll be sold in North America, the Middle East and Europe, where it’ll cost €245,000 before tax - bang on modern supercar money, then, if offering a very different experience. Deliveries will begin in January. 


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Slowlygettingit

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946 posts

71 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Not for me on any level.

First Sea Lord

1,325 posts

209 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Yes please.

Expensive, but must be so much more fun than larger exotica.

Mike-E53

2 posts

79 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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"The roof can even be stored in bags that fit in the roof" - say what now?

Turbobanana

8,484 posts

231 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Article said:
It celebrates Donkervoort’s open-wheel heritage...
While I think it looks great, and will doubtless be a lot of fun, I feel Donkervoort's trying a bit too hard with the exposed front wheels now. I mean, the rest of the design looks fairly modern - aerodynamic, even - but why leave the wheels sticking out in the airstream when they could be behind aerodynamic bodywork?

Sometimes, heritage is not the right way to go.

All that being said, I still would.

Terminator X

20,795 posts

234 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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How do they get hold of the RS3 engines?

TX.

soad

34,689 posts

206 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Mike-E53 said:
"The roof can even be stored in bags that fit in the roof" - say what now?
Essentially a twin targa set up? So does come out in smaller sections.

Fetchez la vache

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244 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Turbobanana said:
Article said:
It celebrates Donkervoort’s open-wheel heritage...
Sometimes, heritage is not the right way to go.
But that IS their heritage...
If memory serves me right they began making blatant Caterham 7 copies. and I remember first physically seeing one in Austria/Switzerland in the early 80's. It's still a nod to their (or Caterhams!) roots, but still instantly recognisable as a Donkervoort.
TBH these days they're turning out the kind of cars I wish Caterham would be turning out if *they* hadn't held onto their heritage too tightly..

pycraft

1,499 posts

214 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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soad said:
Mike-E53 said:
"The roof can even be stored in bags that fit in the roof" - say what now?
Essentially a twin targa set up? So does come out in smaller sections.
Either:
(a) the original article meant to say "The roof can even be stored in bags that fit in the boot", or
(b) the idea is that once you've put the roof in a bag you can stick it in your loft at home, like your Christmas decorations, ready to be retrieved again next year.

HardMiles

401 posts

116 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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I like the idea and what it stands for, I really do. But they could have tried to make it look a tad less like dog sick couldn't they?

Bencolem

1,187 posts

269 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Starting to look like a Plymouth Prowler (or is it the shocking photography)?

Matt_T

1,297 posts

104 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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In a car like this, where you sit a long way back from the front wheels, is it difficult to drive fast on a tight twisty B road? Does it make positioning the front wheels in a corner more challenging and your brain wants to steer in early? Or does you brain adjust itself?

In my NSX you feel like there is a lot of car behind you so you tend to steer into corners a fraction late as you feel the back wheels will cut through, however it truth you sit dead-centre in the wheelbase.

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Edited by Matt_T on Monday 12th December 11:57

Robmarriott

2,969 posts

188 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Terminator X said:
How do they get hold of the RS3 engines?

TX.
From some guy in Bradford.

Silvanus

6,914 posts

53 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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I can't see why you wouldn't get something like a Caterham.

It just looks like its trying to hard.

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Looks cool, but I don't understand why they don't focus on achieving 90%+ of the performance, for <50% of the sales price.

I get that their objective might not be to achieve huge sales numbers, but "a quarter of a million" just seems unnecessary, given the core drivetrain parts that are used.

chirurgus

521 posts

246 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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“…it also emits just 163g/km of CO2. Which is within 50g/km of the hybrid McLaren Artura…”

Which means it emits 60% more CO2 per kilometre than the Artura, a car that has almost twice the mass, and a 20% larger engine that produces 35% more power.

WCZ

11,551 posts

224 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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love it but it's a crazy price to pay

jenkosrugby

257 posts

250 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Turbobanana said:
While I think it looks great, and will doubtless be a lot of fun, I feel Donkervoort's trying a bit too hard with the exposed front wheels now. I mean, the rest of the design looks fairly modern - aerodynamic, even - but why leave the wheels sticking out in the airstream when they could be behind aerodynamic bodywork?

Sometimes, heritage is not the right way to go.

All that being said, I still would.
Because that's one of the design features that differentiates them against other manufactures. It gives a slightly different driving experience when you can see your front wheels and I guess they want to keep this.

ex-devonpaul

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167 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Mike-E53 said:
"The roof can even be stored in bags that fit in the roof" - say what now?
I suspect you have to remove the bags from inside the roof first

wpa1975

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144 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Slowlygettingit said:
Not for me on any level.
Agreed

Darnoc95

516 posts

60 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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The diffuser looks bigger than a whole Lotus Elise!! A bit overkill i think when its using cycle wings like an old Caterham