RE: Jaguar XE SV Project 8 | Spotted
RE: Jaguar XE SV Project 8 | Spotted
Sunday 19th February 2023

Jaguar XE SV Project 8 | Spotted

Hardly the obvious supersaloon at £100,000 - all the more reason to love it


Some cars can seem courageous a few years after they were made, manufacturers seizing on a window of opportunity to make something zany before it’s too late. On the other hand, cars can look overly cautious even with the benefit of hindsight. And some cars can seem totally mad from the very point of conception, then only look braver and braver with the passage of time. The Jaguar XE SV Project 8 must rank in the latter category.

Having appeared to give up on the supersaloon segment with the XF giving up its V8, Jaguar decided to follow up the F-Type-derived SV Project 7 with the XE-based Project 8. The logic was simpler to understand with the 7, as it had roundels and a funny rear deck to look a bit like a D-Type; a roadster design and 575hp had its obvious appeal, too. But there had never been anything like the Project 8, before or since. The world had assumed that, should a special XE arrive, it would be a conventional supersaloon to rival the likes of the BMW M3 and Mercedes-AMG C63, i.e. something to pick up where the XFR left off and show the Germans how to really do a supersaloon. What arrived was a limited-run Nurburgring record breaker, with an overhaul akin to an RS Porsche or a Black Series AMG. Only it was an XE.

Pages and pages could be dedicated to the Project 8 overhaul, from the massively wider tracks to the front end nudged 14mm forward to accommodate the desired Michelin tyre, ceramic brakes to all-wheel drive, adjustable coil springs to flat underbody. A transformation almost sells it short, before even considering a 600hp supercharged V8 in place of a 335hp V6, the most powerful normal XE at the time. That revered 5.0-litre V8 is part of the reason the end Project 8 was as extreme as it was; it simply wouldn’t fit in a right-hand drive configuration, which would limit popularity in the UK for a humbler M3 rival. So 300 left-hand drive cars it was, with 200mph potential and a 7:18 Nurburgring time to its name. Nobody could accuse Jaguar of any half measures.

Was it the right move? The fact that P8s are still for sale at their extraordinary £150k new price would suggest so; on the other hand, they never exactly flew out of showrooms, necessitating the introduction of a 15-unit Touring model for those who found the initial look a bit too much. That Alfa’s very similar Giulia GTA sold out a greater production run far more quickly must have been galling. We can surely all agree that the world - and Jaguar’s recent history - is more interesting for the Project 8 having existed, regardless of whether you want one or not.

This one is especially noteworthy. A former Jaguar-owned car and for sale at JLR Classic, it’s notched up 30,000 miles since 2019, far more than any other out there. This means it’s for sale at far less than any other out there, at £97,950. It isn’t exactly bargain Jag V8 barge territory, of course, but then the XE was always a far more serious car than that. With four seats (i.e., without the two-seat Track Pack) and with the rear spoiler stored away somewhere, albeit with the orange paint and leaper graphic, it’s about as family-friendly as a Project 8 is going to get. And it’s now at the price of similar 600hp V8s, cars like the BMW M5, AMG E63 and Maserati Ghibli Trofeo. They’ll have fewer miles for this money, but are far less special cars.

Certainly, nothing this extreme will come from Jaguar again, and probably not from anywhere - imagine trying to sign off just a few combustion-engined saloon cars, reengineer them for a completely different drivetrain, and then into 200mph circuit slayers. What’s outrageous now didn’t seem much less so back in 2017 - which makes the Project 8 a very special car indeed.


SPECIFICATION | JAGUAR XE SV PROJECT 8

Engine: 5,000cc, supercharged V8
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 600@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 516@3,500rpm
MPG: 25.7
CO2: 254g/km
First registered: 2019
Recorded mileage: 30,807
Price new: £149,995
Yours for: £97,950

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Augustus Windsock

Original Poster:

3,802 posts

185 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Although not sure I’d buy one, funds not withstanding, what a machine (as Clarkson would say) and all the better for being relatively restrained in appearance (if that could be said for something wider than Mrs Shed)…

Portofino

5,378 posts

221 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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What a car!

Not sure that they get the attention they deserve. If it was something German we’d all know about them.

This was Jaguar at their finest. A car that that can lap all day at a ferocious pace, then get you back home in time for tea & crumpets.

ballans

939 posts

135 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Been following the project 8 in Harry’s Garage. It is indeed a very special car and Harry likes his a lot. Worth watching if you want to know exactly what went into the car. Also did a back to back comparison with the Alfa.
If I had the available funds I would have one along with the Project 7.

GreatScott2016

2,556 posts

118 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Portofino said:
What a car!

Not sure that they get the attention they deserve. If it was something German we’d all know about them.

This was Jaguar at their finest. A car that that can lap all day at a ferocious pace, then get you back home in time for tea & crumpets.
Agreed. I would divert my cash elsewhere, but still an impressive and rare thing cool

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

224 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Jag have never really impressed me over the last 20 years or so. Too big, too many issues with their levels of reliability and quality control, and a company that has been teetering on the edge of financial ruin for ages. What chance this becomes an orphan car?

Alfa lately have been doing great things, and the GTAm just looks gorgeous. I wouldn't stop to think twice here. Alfa for sure.

Don1

16,846 posts

238 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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I would have it if I had the cash.... Except for <gestures at JLR quality control and dealers>

Court_S

14,754 posts

207 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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I really like these. I think they look great and make a fab noise and are a rare sight for obvious reasons.

georgeyboy12345

4,635 posts

65 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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The thing that annoys me the most about these is that none of them are RHD

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

187 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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georgeyboy12345 said:
The thing that annoys me the most about these is that none of them are RHD
Yeah it makes it feel rushed as if they did not look at all engine or packaging options. Granted they would sell few so was RHD worth it but a British firm not selling rhd feels odd (sure all P1s are also LHD)

martin12345

1,013 posts

119 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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This car reminds me so much of the XJ220

Both are "glorious failures" in my opinion

Glorious because of what they are, how they drive etc etc

Failures because they both lost the company a load of money and more importantly did not raise the view of the Brand at the time boosting sales of lesser versions and as such "stupid vanity projects" when the engineering resources could have, and should have been applied to making the basic "bread and butter" vehicles better and most importantly more reliable (true for both era's - only era where Jaguar got a decide grip on quality was in the Ford ownership period where for a short while they were close to Lexus levels before they got distracted with too rapid expansion with S and X Type)

Despite liking Jags having worked there for nearly 20 years, this car does nothing for me as it is only a Jag in name and not really a proper mainstream car. If Jag has done a mainstream XE-R with a (say) 500 BHP V8 and then this was the GT3 on top of that then the relevence and connection would have "worked" and then I likely would view it differently, As it is, it is an anamoly to which I can find no feelings.

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NGK210

5,070 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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My perfect all-rounder for living in northern Spain: great on long autopista trips, a hoot on twisty A-/B-roads, and its AWD would be ideal in winter (snow and Noah-grade rain). And it has a V8, but…

Because JLR cost-cutting = fook-all quality control / reliability, I’d really, really want to do my homework – eg, is this a version of the S/C V8 that has terminal cam-chain probs?

Or perhaps P8s are a hand-assembled, skunkworks exception?

The P8 on ’Arry’s Garidge seems to be reliable, and always present and correct, but let’s not forget he works for JLR SVO:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-metcalfe-ab16571...
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/ha...

wpa1975

14,765 posts

144 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Fabulous car with proper engineering the amount of changes of the standard XE is bonkers, I believe it is only doors and roof shared.

I always enjoy Harry's features on his.

Lets be honest however this thread will be filled with the usual posts of shame it is not RHD (simple they could not get the steering to clear the exhaust on RHD) and how unreliable JLR products are.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,770 posts

128 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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The Leaper graphic sums up all that is wrong with Jaguar. A company which doesn't understand who wants or buys it's cars...

FaustF

812 posts

184 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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I adore these. Harry Metcalfes ongoing coverage of his is fascinating, I would LOVE a twin test with this and the Alfa GTAM

AC43

13,649 posts

238 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
The Leaper graphic sums up all that is wrong with Jaguar. A company which doesn't understand who wants or buys it's cars...
Maybe they were targetting my local coffee shop/kebab shop/chicken shop owners people traffickers who like to by AMGs and cover them in tat.

wpa1975

14,765 posts

144 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
The Leaper graphic sums up all that is wrong with Jaguar. A company which doesn't understand who wants or buys it's cars...
Easy enough to sort, they are only a decal, easy enough to remove as Harry has done with his.

Sway

35,314 posts

224 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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NGK210 said:
My perfect all-rounder for living in northern Spain: great on long autopista trips, a hoot on twisty A-/B-roads, and its AWD would be ideal in winter (snow and Noah-grade rain). And it has a V8, but…

Because JLR cost-cutting = fook-all quality control / reliability, I’d really, really want to do my homework – eg, is this a version of the S/C V8 that has terminal cam-chain probs?

Or perhaps P8s are a hand-assembled, skunkworks exception?

The P8 on ’Arry’s Garidge seems to be reliable, and always present and correct, but let’s not forget he works for JLR SVO:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/harry-metcalfe-ab16571...
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/ha...
He works 'with' Jag SVO, but I think he'd be the first to say if he got special treatment - or if his car wasn't really reliable but Jag quietly stepped in and sorted in.

Shinyfings

292 posts

77 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Don1 said:
I would have it if I had the cash.... Except for <gestures at JLR quality control and dealers>
I had a Disco 3 and 4. Both very reliable but any need to visit the dealer was always a huge worry. Ended up in the small claims court after they damaged the Disco4 and blamed me. Luckily I had pictures and they paid up.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,770 posts

128 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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wpa1975 said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
The Leaper graphic sums up all that is wrong with Jaguar. A company which doesn't understand who wants or buys it's cars...
Easy enough to sort, they are only a decal, easy enough to remove as Harry has done with his.
Oh without a doubt.

I'm just questioning the mentality of the people who thought it was a good idea in the first place.

NGK210

5,070 posts

175 months

Sunday 19th February 2023
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Is there a Jag version of Aston Works for servicing?
Wouldn’t want to entrust a P8 to a normal, aka typically inept, Jag dealer.