RE: E-Legend EL1 on target for production in 2024
RE: E-Legend EL1 on target for production in 2024
Friday 8th September 2023

E-Legend EL1 on target for production in 2024

816hp Sport Quattro homage testing continues - and looks brilliant doing it


It’s very easy, relatively speaking, to create a car for a motor show or a set of images. It’s far more difficult to productionise that idea at any kind of volume. But the E-Legend EL1, the 800hp EV celebration of the Audi Sport Quattro first seen in 2021, seems to be moving in the right direction. Production of the 30 units is still on for 2024, the ludicrous specs of the concept have pretty much carried over, and these test pics show the beautiful carbon composite monocoque off in all its glory. None of that is the work of a moment.

As a reminder, the E-Legend was going to have three-motor four-wheel drive, with a 204hp unit up front joined by a pair of rear 306hp items. That will carry through to production, meaning 816hp in total; the EL1 should be even faster now than claimed in 2021 as well, with a full second taken off the 0-124mph time - it’s now said to be 7.5 seconds. There’s plenty of detail that augurs well for production prospects, even those numbers that are less impressive than they once were: the battery is now 80kWh and can charge at up to 200kW, rather than the originally proposed 90kWh and 300kW. But realistic is always better than ridiculous for these sorts of projects, and E-Legend still maintains that the EL1 can complete two flat-out laps of the Nordschleife on a single charge. A 22kW onboard charger will help at home. Weight is said to be 1,790kg without the driver, with 1,650kg claimed back in 2021.

Look how neat it is, too - shorn of its body there’s nowhere for the EL1’s gizzards to hide. And for a car that’s going to be sold in such small numbers (with ‘two more icons of the same model’ to follow) that’s still at the prototype stage, it’s impressive. Working with Roding Mobility, E-Legend says development has improved rigidity, performance and sustainability of the car There are new aluminium subframes to give access for maintenance work, wide opening doors to help access and even exterior mirrors now for approval in the US. All the boring stuff, basically, that a new model needs to be sold and used, is making its way to this mad EV that looked like it would only ever be fit for Pikes Peak. Exciting stuff.

CEO Marcus Holzinger has suggested that the chassis development has been the toughest part of the development stage, because this architecture will underpin future cars also - yet that unmistakeable, truncated Sport Quattro aesthetic was crucial to the EL1. Certainly, this still looks like that superb concept, so that’s encouraging. Three-way adjustable suspension, two drive modes, a nose lift and ESP will also make it to the customer cars, which will go into hand-built production from next year. Any hope that the original price prediction might have softened should be forgotten, though - it’s going to be €890,000 plus VAT for one of the 30 EL1s. But when an EV reimagination looks this good, and promises so much, they may well be spoken for sooner than you think.  


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Schermerhorn

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4,353 posts

219 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Wow

benjidog

121 posts

91 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Yes please.

supacool1

738 posts

209 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Oh Hell Yes! That is amazing!

Lord_Howit_Hertz

1,972 posts

247 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Wow, now that is something!

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

187 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Why could the lotus not look like this I don't care if performance was less with no need for engines exhaust etc I want EVs that look this good not like a generic SUV from GTA III on the PS2

JumpinJack

408 posts

208 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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There must be something wrong with the PH forum. I've never seen so many consecutive positive comments (5) without some miserable c**t moaning.

That is a stunning piece of kit IMO.

rodericb

8,890 posts

156 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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JumpinJack said:
There must be something wrong with the PH forum. I've never seen so many consecutive positive comments (5) without some miserable c**t moaning.

That is a stunning piece of kit IMO.
Radical! You've put your name down for one? How could you not for only €89,000 plus VAT!


oh wait - that's €890,000 plus VAT...

Dohnut

681 posts

76 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Massive want.

620S

433 posts

228 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Another wonderful product priced at a point only a few elite with their Panama Papers can afford. I'll be impressed when i see something like this is priced relative to what the original UR was.

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

235 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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620S said:
Another wonderful product priced at a point only a few elite with their Panama Papers can afford. I'll be impressed when i see something like this is priced relative to what the original UR was.
I couldn't agree more, I think it is stunning and amazing and I am not really an EV fan, but the real kicker is the fact it is just another rich kids toy that will instantly be worth 1.5 million as soon as they are all sold.

I doubt I will ever see one never mind ever come close to driving one.

I will be far more enthusiastic when manufacturers build something focused, compact and good looking like this with half the power even and a 20th of the price.

MG seem to be the only one making any effort in that department at the moment.

Water Fairy

6,613 posts

185 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Looks great to me but I'll take an original Sport please. Sorry to be that guy.

loudlashadjuster

6,447 posts

214 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Lovely stuff.

The ability of basically new companies to release cars like this is one of the best things about the ongoing EV revolution.

Previously this would have inevitably necessitated a 'borrowed' powertrain from BMW, GM, MB etc., along with the packaging, cooling etc. constraints that it imposed. Developing a bespoke engine and associated running gear was something that only the truly mad would attempt, and very few were capable of making a success of, and that's why it could only really be achieved by those at the Koenigsegg end of the price/lunacy spectrum.

OK, this thing is still mega money, but freed from the need to have to buy in a car's running gear, it's at least feasible for market entrants to craft a genuinely interesting and competitive car from OTS components.

Dzmo2022

60 posts

43 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Not sure hiring 125mph in 7 seconds would actually be an enjoyable experience.
But, I’m very willing to see

rodericb

8,890 posts

156 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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loudlashadjuster said:
Lovely stuff.

The ability of basically new companies to release cars like this is one of the best things about the ongoing EV revolution.

Previously this would have inevitably necessitated a 'borrowed' powertrain from BMW, GM, MB etc., along with the packaging, cooling etc. constraints that it imposed. Developing a bespoke engine and associated running gear was something that only the truly mad would attempt, and very few were capable of making a success of, and that's why it could only really be achieved by those at the Koenigsegg end of the price/lunacy spectrum.

OK, this thing is still mega money, but freed from the need to have to buy in a car's running gear, it's at least feasible for market entrants to craft a genuinely interesting and competitive car from OTS components.
This article doesn't say where the drivetrain comes from. Nor the batteries. They could be ripped out of scrapped Teslas for all we know.

phil4

1,649 posts

268 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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I wonder if the reason we're seeing this and others like it (yes, I like it, it looks nice). Is that it's reasonably straight forward to build a fast EV car, so easier to make something like this, but what's not so easy, and why they stick at 30 with a high price tag, is scaling production. It's not "more than the sum of its' parts", indeed I suspect it's much much much less... but they can't and don't want to make 300, 3000 or more a year.

loudlashadjuster

6,447 posts

214 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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rodericb said:
This article doesn't say where the drivetrain comes from. Nor the batteries. They could be ripped out of scrapped Teslas for all we know.
Yes, but even this doesn't impose the constraints - engineering, financial, or IP protection - that a borrowed ICE platform would. And there are many companies springing up to offer motors, batteries, inverters and charge management solutions, either as components or turnkey packages. The barrier to entry is markedly lower.

And if the pictures are any guide, the spec of the thing looks pretty good. I can't imaging they'd get away with stuffing the thing full of 8 year old kit out of a pile of cat C Model S wink

JumpinJack

408 posts

208 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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rodericb said:
Radical! You've put your name down for one? How could you not for only €89,000 plus VAT!


oh wait - that's €890,000 plus VAT...
huh?

GreatScott2016

2,534 posts

118 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Water Fairy said:
Looks great to me but I'll take an original Sport please. Sorry to be that guy.
I'm kind of with you on that, although it's still so refreshing to see a modern take on an iconic classic look this good cool

Sicksilinda

170 posts

86 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Needs a V8.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,757 posts

128 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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I agree it looks lovely, but will it actually be any good to drive ?

Sure it will be fast in a straight line but beyond that you have a relatively small team with a relatively small budget trying to sort out the dynamics of a relatively heavy car. Which is hard. Generally unless you put the resource in, you don't get a great result out....