RE: Champagne car, lemonade cash | Six of the Best
RE: Champagne car, lemonade cash | Six of the Best
Saturday 6th April 2024

Champagne car, lemonade cash | Six of the Best

More, for much less. Assuming you're brave enough


BMW 645Ci, 2004, 76k, £4,999

The ready availability of formerly very expensive and sophisticated cars at bargain basement prices is one of the more pleasing quirks of a bustling market economy (helped along by the frequency with which carmakers are minded to replace their wares). Not all luxury or performance cars sink to the bottom of the barrel, of course - some achieve greatness or were simply too expensive or coveted to begin with - but those that do provide the shallow-pocketed with access to all manner of ageing loveliness. Case in point: the E63 6 Series, which has propped up the grand tourer market for yonks. Do you need to be a tiny bit brave to buy a 20-year-old 4.4-litre V8 for less than £5k? Yes. But that’s all part of the fun. 

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Range Rover TDV8, 2008, 135k, £5,475

Frying pan, meet fire. If the 6 Series is a paid-up member of the bargain basement, the L322 Range Rover is the treasurer, chairman and bar manager. That’s because it was a) very popular in its day and built for a decade b) has a reputation for going wrong in numerous ways c) is costly to run and maintain even if it doesn’t. But it is also regarded with great affection by Land Rover aficionados and its frequent appearance on a certain farm-based reality TV show has reminded everyone else how good it still looks when driven between hedgerows in the Cotswolds. Here’s one in black in quintessential 3.6-litre TDV8 format with 135k on the clock. Fun, we can assure you, while it lasts. 

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VW Passat CC 3.6, 2009, 94k, £4,990

If you prefer your champagne from the less ostentatious end of the market, how about the comparatively rare Passat CC with the even rarer kicker of a narrow-angled 3.6-litre V6? ‘A classic in the making’ says our vendor, maybe a little too optimistically - but we wholeheartedly second the notion that this would be an ideal way to transport four people to a ski resort and back. The CC did without the R36 badge, but you’re getting basically the same 4Motion-equipped package, which includes 0-62mph in a pleasingly succinct 5.5 seconds. This one looks good in silver and its odometer is yet to crack 100k. Tescos’ Finest Champagne perhaps, but eminently quaffable. 

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Porsche Boxster 2.7, 2005, 42k, £6,000-£8,000

While the arguments for and against very cheap Porsches mirror those made elsewhere for similarly expensive brands, they tend to be made more vehemently because it's usually proper enthusiasts doing the arguing. Some won’t ever be persuaded to put down the barge pole, but the rewards for doing so are obvious enough: you get a pedigree sports car for peanuts. Behold the Boxster currently making its way through the click-gauntlet of PH auctions. Is it the perfect example of a 986? No, the presence of the five-speed auto puts paid to that idea. But with a £6,000 guide price and no reserve, someone is still going to end up with an iconic flat-six roadster for lemonade money. 

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Mercedes SL350, 2003, 79k, £5,495 

If you’re inclined to think a slusher and having the wind in your hair would go better with something sturdier and slightly more practical, how about the swept-back, folding-roof pleasure of the R320 SL? Okay, it’s not got the physical presence of the preceding R129, and for pocket change you can’t have the sonorous AMG V8 or the silly-grade V12 - but the V6 is (vaguely) punchy enough and you get the same impression of three-pointed star classiness. Obviously, you’ll want to check for rust in any Merc of this era, and this SL isn’t going to mark you out as a connoisseur like a well-kept R107 would. But you’ll have paid 5 per cent of the cost, too. 

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Jaguar XJ Super V8, 2000, 117k, £5,999

It’s probably safe to say that in 2024 no one is going to mistake you for an aristocrat in an old XJ - even an eccentric one. But we’re allowing this one into the pantheon of the luxury penny pinchers because it’s a long-wheelbase car and is therefore the car best equipped to actually let you drink fizzy wine on the go. Also, it is a seldom-seen example of the Super V8, which (we think) means you got the XJR’s supercharged V8, but without the accompanying requirement for sharpened handling. Which ought to mean the Daimler floats about the place very contentedly on its 17-inch wheels. True, this example needs ‘some light cosmetic attention’ but we’re glossing over that. We’ve got our champagne goggles on, after all. 

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wistec1

Original Poster:

796 posts

70 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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For me the Bollinger in this line up is the Range Rover. From the off you would be forever in the snipers cross hairs whilst walking with a bad limp. The bullet is gonna get you one day and that's when the fizz runs out. I'd need a few sessions with a shrink and then full hypnosis to drop money on this.

The BMW, Porsche & Jag all look dated with the latter for odd reasons constantly reminding me of that very irritable ahole two jags John Prescott. Not so much lemonade this lot but just lemons.

Which leaves the Moet Merc that is still eye catching and fizzing like it's just been spiked in a night club,never knowing if your gonna wake up the next day having had your pockets emptied and bummed the night before.

So to the Presseco Passat. its still looking fresh and modern (ish) in this company but someone has already eaten the strawberry on the plastic sword in the glass.

The risk is all too evident in all of these tipples but I'd "plonk" for the Passat for nothing more than looks and the big engine. And no despite the champagne innuendo I don't own a vineyard .Yet.




jameswills

3,583 posts

72 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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Great list of cars for this segment. L322 is the King on all fronts.

Vsix and Vtec

1,415 posts

47 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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I'm sorry, nobody looks at a passat, not even the cc and thinks "champagne". They're just a golf upsized to compete with the A4 and Laguna.

The range rover is a very lovely thing, but you would have to be in denial of epic proportions to think you're going to get away with running one on lemonade money. My L322 TDV8 Vogue SE was quite well behaved fault wise, but I still forked out about 1k a year on maintenance in addition to servicing.

Oddly, I think you'd find the Daimler would be one of the most reliable ones in this lineup, although perhaps having dated in design now to the point where people who look at it in a carpark aren't wowed. Sit inside the car though and I think you will still feel the sense of occasion.

The Boxter and the merc are probably the only ones non-car people would look at and think are flashy, purely by virtue of them being convertible sports cars.

AndySheff

6,928 posts

236 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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BMW, Porsche or Merc would be on my list of possibles.

jw673

158 posts

145 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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Those wishing to live L322 ownership vicariously through another thread see: 2012 Range Rover Vogue TDV8 (2012) (recently purchased, from Reading, at not too dissimilar money to the 3.6 in this article).

Unfortunately, the lower end of the L322 market is full of "private sellers" driveway traders, the sort who - along with their other eBay account/partner in eBay car sales - list vehicles ("private sale") they may have purchased from a local scrapyard (the picturesque location for some of their photos). Once sold they have a habit of rewriting every single detail of the eBay listing to remove all references to the car in question before marking it as completed. I assume this is some sort of imbecile's plausible deniability ("me, car sales!?!?... never! - prove it!"). The last L322 (3.6) said Reading-based "private seller" trader sold is now (still) listed on Autotrader - only 6 months after purchase from them, just after its first service by the new owner, and having spent a small fortune on repairs in that 6-month (thankfully, not my) ownership period...

For other comments on the current (bottom of) L322 market, and those selling them, see: Brave or Stupid? I’ve just bought a Range Rover L322 TDV8.

Edited by jw673 on Saturday 6th April 08:28

GreatScott2016

2,513 posts

117 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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Sadly, not remotely tempted by any of those listed.

theicemario

1,573 posts

104 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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Some really nice cars. And a RR Sport

pycraft

1,442 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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So, all six of these as well as £7k in the bank for inevitable repairs ... or a new Golf GTI?

Is it possible to OD on brave pills?

ducnick

2,263 posts

272 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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The Daimler looks lovely… thankfully it’s too long for my garage so I can avoid the disappointment that always comes when a bottle of champagne is left open for too long .

Robertb

3,852 posts

267 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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My kind of list!

It would have to be the RR for me.

Wasn’t aware you could get the Passat CC in 3.2 guise, good find.

dgswk

959 posts

123 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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Passat CC 3.6 with 28mpg and a crappy saloon boot ideal for getting to the ski resort rofl

Diesel Audi A6 Avant with Quattro is the only car for this mission, age and mileage irrelevant

Alickadoo

3,439 posts

52 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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Yeah, but!

What about a Toyota Camry?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?body-type=...

Ray_Aber

936 posts

305 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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I’d take the Passat CC. It’s still a deeply attractive car to me, and the badge is irrelevant. No thanks to the RR. An easy pass. Ditto the Daimler. The BMW is tempting and the Boxster is a bit forgettable in that colour. As is the Merc…which I almost forgot. Bork champion.

E90_M3Ross

36,729 posts

241 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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pycraft said:
Is it possible to OD on brave pills?
Side effects include impulse buying and bankruptcy!

pb8g09

3,224 posts

98 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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wistec1 said:
For me the Bollinger in this line up is the Range Rover. From the off you would be forever in the snipers cross hairs whilst walking with a bad limp. The bullet is gonna get you one day and that's when the fizz runs out. I'd need a few sessions with a shrink and then full hypnosis to drop money on this.

The BMW, Porsche & Jag all look dated with the latter for odd reasons constantly reminding me of that very irritable ahole two jags John Prescott. Not so much lemonade this lot but just lemons.

Which leaves the Moet Merc that is still eye catching and fizzing like it's just been spiked in a night club,never knowing if your gonna wake up the next day having had your pockets emptied and bummed the night before.

So to the Presseco Passat. its still looking fresh and modern (ish) in this company but someone has already eaten the strawberry on the plastic sword in the glass.

The risk is all too evident in all of these tipples but I'd "plonk" for the Passat for nothing more than looks and the big engine. And no despite the champagne innuendo I don't own a vineyard .Yet.
First class summary.

And agree on all counts.

Gigamoons

18,084 posts

229 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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Ooh nice selection.
I’d take the SL, a 6 pot is fine for some sedate summer wafting.
Boxster looked interesting until auto.. that engine and that chassis with that gearbox is like an athlete competing with a sprained ankle - looks the part and still capable vs the average, but a shadow of what it could be.

ferret50

2,875 posts

38 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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The Daimler is such understated luxury, with an iron fist under the bonnet to waft one down the motorway.

Mercs, RangeaRovers, and VW's are just so every day!

Baldchap

9,624 posts

121 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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Now this is a thread I can get behind! Not a £100k 3 series in sight! laugh

I had a banger XJ8 for a rally that was actually really wafty, so for me it's the Jag.

Ekona

1,684 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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I had a 645 for a few years (in manual guise), and I maintain it’s a better car than people give it credit for. More than enough poke, a lovely engine note and even better with an aftermarket exhaust, and it rides superbly. The dated CCC lets it down and the valve stem seals/coolant pipe leak problems can be an issue, but the latter two cost me less than £1k to fix at a garage. In the end it had full adjustable suspension and Recaro Pole Positions fitted with BBS-style wheels and it became a genuinely fun car to throw around.

By far the best car to drive on that list, if you pretend the Boxster isn’t there biggrin

Cold

16,706 posts

119 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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theicemario said:
Some really nice cars. And a RR Sport
Where?