RE: BMW M140i | PH Private Area

RE: BMW M140i | PH Private Area

Wednesday 7th May

BMW M140i | PH Private Area

BMW's hatchback hot rod was a legend in its own lifetime - and the perfect foundation for some mods...


It was clear, back at the end of 2012, that BMW was sure to have a smash hit on its hands with the F20-era M135i. It was surprisingly affordable, it was fantastically fast thanks to a turbo straight six, it was rear-wheel drive, it was… acceptable to look at. Let’s say that. But after trying and failing with a 3 Series Compact and the first generation of 1 Series, BMW finally had a straight six hatch that people really wanted to buy. Turns out all they needed to offer was 320hp for £30,000.

The Mk7 Golf R arrived not long after, and sales of both sometimes made it seem like no other hot hatches existed. Wherever you went, the BMW and the VW were there in droves, because both offered really nice interiors and loads of speed for not much money. And some good pop and bang maps, if that was your thing. Or a six-speed manual gearbox as standard, if that was more your thing. 

Both M135i and M140i, though not perfect, were immensely likeable little cars, traditional BMW hot rods for the modern age. They weren’t the best hot hatches to drive (thanks to sub par steering and damping), they weren’t the most practical hatches ever (because of having to contain such a big engine) and BMW never made a truly handsome one, but it didn’t matter. With four-cylinder M Performance 1 Series really not hitting the mark and plentiful secondhand sixes, the M135i and M140i have become used cars heroes. 

This is one of the best we’ve seen for a while. And we’re looking a lot more than is really advisable. It’s a Melboure Red three-door manual, for starters, far from the most popular spec and all the more interesting for it. The eight-speed auto is of course very good, and five doors are handy, but for full old school cool this must be the way to go.

There’s around 470hp as well, a useful uptick from the standard M140’s 340hp. But given seemingly no BMW B58 engine on the planet is unmodified, that’s not the big news here. Nope, the big news is the raft of chassis changes made to take full advantage. The seller notes in the advert that everything has been done to address ‘all the out-of-the-box handling inadequacies’, and it’s hard to imagine very much slop or slack left in this now. There are KW V3 coilovers, Yokohama R888R tyres, BMW’s M Performance limited slip diff, uprated bushes, more bracing, H&R anti-roll bars, braided lined, racier pads, a stronger clutch… you get the idea. It’s a pretty serious build, probably delivering something like an M1 experience never offered from the factory. 

Certainly it looks the part, wheels tucked up right in the arches and ride height perfect. All the modifications have been carried out in the past year; the intention was for the BMW to stick around, but the arrival of another child has put paid to the seller’s plans somewhat. So it looks a great opportunity for someone else, with a rare spec and some nice upgrades. It’s not the cheapest way into an M140i, but £17,500 is a lot less than it would cost to create something like this from scratch. And all the new bits have only covered around 2,000 miles or so. It promises to be a mega little BMW for someone, and good ones are surely going to remain in demand for a while yet. After all, what else like it is there?

See the original advert here

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Craiglm68

Original Poster:

5 posts

97 months

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Oooh, 1st comment....helps being on the other side of the world. Imagine this would lift its skirts and hustle very nicely, though does look very low at the front....nice roads only please!

howardhughes

1,203 posts

217 months

Wednesday
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Great understated looks, but I've yet to see one not been driven within an inch of it's life.

GreatScott2016

1,784 posts

101 months

Wednesday
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Never struggled with the looks of these, either in 3 or 5 door guise. I enjoyed my M135i but it was certainly flawed in driving dynamics, beautiful engine though smile.

Dombilano

1,298 posts

68 months

Wednesday
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7 owners and 88k miles, de-catted, remapped, basic nav and a Wall-E cock gearstick.

Just buy an M2

cerb4.5lee

36,160 posts

193 months

Wednesday
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I think you nailed it Matt when you said..."old school cool", you just don't get 3 doors, manual and straight sixes anymore for whatever reason nowadays. Looks wise these never really hit the spot for me, but what an awesome package though. Very nice. cool

cerb4.5lee

36,160 posts

193 months

Wednesday
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Dombilano said:
7 owners and 88k miles, de-catted, remapped, basic nav and a Wall-E cock gearstick.

Just buy an M2
Or a 1M. smokin

Terminator X

17,294 posts

217 months

Wednesday
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I recall being "surprised" at the pace of these when out in my Alpine one evening!

TX.

Glenn63

3,344 posts

97 months

Wednesday
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cerb4.5lee said:
Dombilano said:
7 owners and 88k miles, de-catted, remapped, basic nav and a Wall-E cock gearstick.

Just buy an M2
Or a 1M. smokin
Not for £17.5k you won’t.

Iv had my M140 for 4 years now. Engines a monster but the standard chassis certainly needs improvement unless it’s just a motorway commuter.
Mines now 500bhp with Bilstein coilovers, LSD, brake upgrades, polly bushes and chassis braces and it’s a very capable car.
My daily and 3-4 track days a year and not had a single issue, still does over 40mpg on a run (il be doing near 300 miles to Kent today and it’s still perfectly comfortable) Managed 173mph at a 1 mile event, sounds great and being less than £25k all in with mods I don’t know what to replace it with. I do fancy an FL5 type R to get back into a manual but they are double the price.

Frimley111R

16,665 posts

247 months

Wednesday
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Dombilano said:
7 owners and 88k miles, de-catted, remapped, basic nav and a Wall-E cock gearstick.

Just buy an M2
For £17k?

fantheman80

1,874 posts

62 months

Wednesday
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Huge respect for the car and its performance on offer, and I hate to stereo type, but around my parish this has without doubt been the model the biggest whoppers drive. F1 style rear light, crazy pop and bang, wind deflectors, chameleon front windscreen often with a plume of alternative tobacco

LightweightLouisDanvers

2,411 posts

56 months

Wednesday
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Dombilano said:
7 owners and 88k miles, de-catted, remapped, basic nav and a Wall-E cock gearstick.

Just buy an M2
That's the concern, ragged within an inch of its life by all 7 of these owners, this will have had a hard life.

Firebobby

780 posts

52 months

Wednesday
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I went from 4 year ownership of an f20 m135i to a 140i and I wasn't disappointed (apart from the engine noise). I haven't done any mods to it because I drive on public roads all the time and at anything up to 7/10ths it's perfectly acceptable. People harp on about LSD's and B12 kits, just not necessary IMHO of 50 years driving experience. It'll pootle around town and manage just under 30mpg or over 40mpg on the motorway. There aren't many high performance cars that can manage that trick. I honestly can't see me getting rid anytime soon, personally I think it's the best all round performance car I've owned and I've had everything from 2.8 capris to Evo 8's.

Tindersticks

2,627 posts

13 months

Wednesday
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Frimley111R said:
For £17k?
I read it as more along the lines of once you've spent on the engine tuning plus 'There are KW V3 coilovers, Yokohama R888R tyres, BMW’s M Performance limited slip diff, uprated bushes, more bracing, H&R anti-roll bars, braided lined, racier pads, a stronger clutch' you're probably at M2 money so just start with that.

Unless you need a hatch of course.

J4CKO

43,935 posts

213 months

Wednesday
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I should have maybe done that stuff to mine, whoever had this has made the best of it. They are a great daily but as a drivers car, I found it frustrating and it falls apart when you try and go beyond straight line blasts. I used to take the Fiesta ST in preference, as that was the opposite, the faster you went, the better it got.

Mine was an auto, its a very good auto but made it feel more like a downsized barge than a hot hatch, same gearbox as in my Jaguar XJ which kind of sets the scene for the vibe I got from it, but a manual with those mods is quite appealing.

But, if it werent for the fact so many are knobhead chariots now, usually otherwise standard apart form having 500 bhp, they are a bit of a liability at 340 out of the box once you press on, not sure I want to be around when 500 bhp is unleashed onto the likely aging clown car standard chassis and woolly steering, piloted by some halfwit.


cerb4.5lee

36,160 posts

193 months

Wednesday
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GreatScott2016 said:
Never struggled with the looks of these, either in 3 or 5 door guise. I enjoyed my M135i but it was certainly flawed in driving dynamics, beautiful engine though smile.
It has always been the big(ish) engine, and the small(ish) car combo that I've always liked about these for sure. A lot of bang for your buck I think.

Maxus

1,104 posts

194 months

Wednesday
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Proper old school BMW vibe to these. Compact 6 cylinder RWD.

We decided on a 2 series for my wife. Tested a 230i for the driving position and overall feel. Quite rightly she questioned why she would need anything quicker i.e. the M240i. Suggested it's not just the speed, it's how the 6 cylinder engine changes the overall feel of the car.

Sure enough, tried an M240i and never looked back. Great car, late 30s MPG overall and serious grunt. It really impresses me whenever I give it a bit of stick.

Personally, I prefer the look of the 2 to the 1 (probably the E30 lineage) and the lower association with the pops and bangs brigade.


Richard-390a0

2,825 posts

104 months

Wednesday
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The MOT history tells a story too - Previous MOT failed due to sun strip & then failed MOT last year due to no cat. This year a clean pass with no advisories (obviously found a 'friendly' tester this year! wink ).

MarkJS

1,852 posts

160 months

Wednesday
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They're great cars but I wouldn't touch that particular one with a bargepole.

Dombilano

1,298 posts

68 months

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Frimley111R said:
Dombilano said:
7 owners and 88k miles, de-catted, remapped, basic nav and a Wall-E cock gearstick.

Just buy an M2
For £17k?
£21k gets a good early one, similar enough figure in man-math land for me

J4CKO

43,935 posts

213 months

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I can see a certain amount of caution is a good thing but on PH the pearls do get clutched pretty tightly if there is any hint that the car may have been owned by someone who may be a "bit of a wuffian".

I get it but I think it gets taken a bit far, this has some quality upgrades, doesnt look like its a "certi" drivers car.

I think if you are waiting for the one owner examples with tiny miles sold privately by the original owner who wears red trousers and brogues you may be waiting a while with these, and it will be quite expensive.

Just need to do your due diligence, a car history check, take someone to check it over and dont ignore gut feelings, if you arent sure, walk away, always be another.

I say that, but if you get too hung up on spec it gets difficult, must have pro nav, HK sound, heated seats etc and be a specific colour, under 50k, could be a long search on cars that are all at least six years old.