Michelin Super Sport 305/30 x 19 - Where to Buy?

[Ian_UK1]

Does anyone know where I might be able to source a pair of Michelin Super Sports for the rear of my 997S.2?

The car is on Carrera Sport wheels (1/2" wider than normal) that take 305/30x19 rather than the normal 295s. My usual tyre supplier has no stock of this size and when they contacted Michelin (this morning) to try to order a pair, Michelin said that even if they received the order today, they still couldn't supply this size until mid-September!

As I don't think my current tyres will last that long and I don't want to put another set of prehistoric tyres (Pirelli/PS2/Bridgestone etc.) on the car, I'm going to need to find some Super Sports fairly quickly. (Unless there's any other tyre that's as good as the Super Sport, but I'm not aware of anything).

So far, everywhere else I've tried has been out of stock.

Any suggestions as to where I might find a pair of 305s at short notice would be very gratefully received.

Ian

[csmith319]

Event tyres have some at the moment - £270

[Trev450]

http://www.tyreleader.co.uk/ and http://www.oponeo.co.uk/ are both worth a try.

[Ian_UK1]

csmith319 said:

Event tyres have some at the moment - £270

Sometimes you just have to love PH!

Thanks very much for the link and the unbelievably quick reply.

[dopsonj]

MyTyres - Used them for a set of 4 for the Box,

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110...

£269.00 ea plus free delivery.

[Ian_UK1]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

Tyres on their way to me.

[MrTickle]

Too late for the OP, but just in case someone stumbles across the thread in similar need - Tyres on the drive are doing them for £258 and you can use code TOTD48 for an extra tenner off the order.

[Ian_UK1]

Just had the Super Sports fitted all round by Event Tyres.

VERY impressed with Event - tyres I required in stock, competitive pricing, delivery/fitting within 2 days, great service, polite, knowledgeable fitter, wheels left as good as he found them, wheels torqued correctly. Can't fault what they've done at all.

Off out for an hour, now, to bed the Super Sports in. Can't wait to see if all the hype's true!

Ian

[mrdemon]

the hype is true, what I found strange on my last set is they took a few more miles to come to life

had 3 sets now, but this last set took 300+ miles to wear in or wear the release compound off and even then took a few more to really come to life.

My 1st 2 sets were on the money from the off.

[BMCG]

Ian_UK1 said:

Just had the Super Sports fitted all round by Event Tyres.

VERY impressed with Event - tyres I required in stock, competitive pricing, delivery/fitting within 2 days, great service, polite, knowledgeable fitter, wheels left as good as he found them, wheels torqued correctly. Can't fault what they've done at all.

Off out for an hour, now, to bed the Super Sports in. Can't wait to see if all the hype's true!

Ian

Similar experience with Event Tyres...in my case just the supply of MPSC 2's NO spec...on time, no hassle delivery.

[Ian_UK1]

mrdemon said:

the hype is true, what I found strange on my last set is they took a few more miles to come to life

had 3 sets now, but this last set took 300+ miles to wear in or wear the release compound off and even then took a few more to really come to life.

My 1st 2 sets were on the money from the off.

Now that's interesting!

Having put about 60 miles on my new Super Sports today, I was about to start a new thread on here to say I disagreed with everyone about them and that they are, by a very wide margin, the worst tyre I've ever had on a 996 or 7.

These are the first impressions I got from the tyres after about 50 miles of 'bedding-in': dead steering around the centre, no initial response to putting on steering angle, no 'bite' on turn-in whatsoever, indistinct messages about what the front wheels are doing in a turn - even deliberately-provoked understeer wasn't unloading the steering as it should. The feel (or lack of it) is exactly the same as you'd get from a tyre that's 2 or 3 sizes too wide for the rim its on. No, it's worse - they actually make the car respond and feel like a feckin' FWD Audi!

However, having now read your post, I'm going to give them a few (couple of hundred?) more miles and see if things change. Maybe I haven't completely wasted a bag-of-sand after all and the tyres just take a very long time to 'wake up' as you suggest. Let's hope you're right!

Will report back in a few days.

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Thursday 7th August 16:17

[R1nur]

Interesting thread - I have spent a couple of hours today trying to track down the same tyres. But with Porsche N rating.

I tried al the links above, and Camskills and Black Circles and Mytyre etc etc - could not find any in STOCK. Not event tyres not Micheldever not Bracknell.

Ended up with a part used set from eBay to tide me over until the next batch trickles throughout from France(?).

[MrTickle]

R1nur said:

Interesting thread - I have spent a couple of hours today trying to track down the same tyres. But with Porsche N rating.

I tried al the links above, and Camskills and Black Circles and Mytyre etc etc - could not find any in STOCK. Not event tyres not Micheldever not Bracknell.

Ended up with a part used set from eBay to tide me over until the next batch trickles throughout from France(?).

I am pretty sure the you can't get MPSS with N rating at all, they were never type approved by Porsche.

[csmith319]

Ian_UK1 said:

Just had the Super Sports fitted all round by Event Tyres.

VERY impressed with Event - tyres I required in stock, competitive pricing, delivery/fitting within 2 days, great service, polite, knowledgeable fitter, wheels left as good as he found them, wheels torqued correctly. Can't fault what they've done at all.

Off out for an hour, now, to bed the Super Sports in. Can't wait to see if all the hype's true!

Ian

Event are great - sounds like all went well... I'm going to try Super Sports later this year...

My only thing is whether I have 295 or 305 at the back on sport design wheels...

[andywaterfall]

MrTickle said:

R1nur said:

Interesting thread - I have spent a couple of hours today trying to track down the same tyres. But with Porsche N rating.

I tried al the links above, and Camskills and Black Circles and Mytyre etc etc - could not find any in STOCK. Not event tyres not Micheldever not Bracknell.

Ended up with a part used set from eBay to tide me over until the next batch trickles throughout from France(?).

I am pretty sure the you can't get MPSS with N rating at all, they were never type approved by Porsche.

That's what I've been told by my dealer too, and that fitting them would invalidate the warranty! Is that right, or are they scare-mongering?

[Ian_UK1]

csmith319 said:

Event are great - sounds like all went well... I'm going to try Super Sports later this year...

My only thing is whether I have 295 or 305 at the back on sport design wheels...

On the Sport Design wheel (11" rim) I'd stay with 295s. It's only the fact that the Carrera Sport wheel is wider (11.5") that requires the wider tyres. 305's on the narrower rim would be working less than optimally and would also change the car's gearing slightly.

I've also never worked-out why the Carrera Sport wheels are wider than the other wheel options for the C2S (other than for cosmetic reasons or 'I've got wider tyres than you' bragging rights for the mentally challenged)! The cars certainty don't NEED more rubber - the rear, especially, is probably over-tyred anyway.

[MrTickle]

andywaterfall said:

That's what I've been told by my dealer too, and that fitting them would invalidate the warranty! Is that right, or are they scare-mongering?

Using non N rated tyres has the potential to give a dealer a 'get-out' of standing by a Porsche extended warranty. It does not have any effect on the first 2 years (I used MPSS on my GTS before the extended warranty kicked in at year 3).

It is unlikely to be brought up for a few bits being done with your service - but it would be a risk if the engine went bang and the warranty underwriter wanted an excuse to dodge the claim.

In reality, I think you would have a good reason to challenge it legally, as strictly speaking the warranty says 'no non Porsche approved parts' (or something similar) and I would argue tyres are not parts but consumables. However, could you really be arsed with the potential hassle for the sake of the tyres? MPS tyres are the choice for extended warranty users, MPSS for the ones without

[andywaterfall]

MrTickle said:

andywaterfall said:

That's what I've been told by my dealer too, and that fitting them would invalidate the warranty! Is that right, or are they scare-mongering?

Using non N rated tyres has the potential to give a dealer a 'get-out' of standing by a Porsche extended warranty. It does not have any effect on the first 2 years (I used MPSS on my GTS before the extended warranty kicked in at year 3).

It is unlikely to be brought up for a few bits being done with your service - but it would be a risk if the engine went bang and the warranty underwriter wanted an excuse to dodge the claim.

In reality, I think you would have a good reason to challenge it legally, as strictly speaking the warranty says 'no non Porsche approved parts' (or something similar) and I would argue tyres are not parts but consumables. However, could you really be arsed with the potential hassle for the sake of the tyres? MPS tyres are the choice for extended warranty users, MPSS for the ones without

Sounds like sensible advice, thanks.

[LF11]

Ian, has your experience been any more positive after more mileage?

[Ian_UK1]

LF11 said:

Ian, has your experience been any more positive after more mileage?

Yes the tyres have improved to a degree, but still aren't quite what I'd expect.

I've got the car booked into Center Gravity again in a couple of weeks so we can experiment with setup to get the best from the Super Sports. I'll do a write-up of what works (and otherwise) after I've been there, as it may help others get the best from these tyres.

Ian