How essential is Sports Chrono for resale of a 997
How essential is Sports Chrono for resale of a 997
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jonno999

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12 posts

133 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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Hi

I am torn between 2 997's. Both PDKs however 1 has Sports Chrono and the other not. I am being told that when the time comes to re-sell the car its much tougher to sell on a PDK without Sports Chrono?

Any views from more experienced porsche ownership?

Thanks

FalconWood

1,371 posts

220 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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I was told the same by the dealership when I specified my 997. Other then thinking that this would just provide them more profit when I bought the car, I have to say that I saw two second hand 997's recently and one had and hadn't - I bought the one that had!!!

xRIEx

8,180 posts

171 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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If you're considering a 997 without Sport Chrono, then it is believable that there are many people who are happy to have a 997 without Sport Chrono, so yes, you should be able to sell it to one of them.

If the value will be lower than a 997 with Sport Chrono when you come to sell, pay commensurately less now for the one without, then you're in exactly the same position.

If the dealer is telling you that you need to buy the one with, then sympathise with him because he must be having the same problem selling the one without, so because you're such a nice person you'll take it off his hands, as a favour to him for £x,000 less than the sticker price.

ZX10R NIN

29,997 posts

148 months

Thursday 19th February 2015
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xRIEx said:
If you're considering a 997 without Sport Chrono, then it is believable that there are many people who are happy to have a 997 without Sport Chrono, so yes, you should be able to sell it to one of them.

If the value will be lower than a 997 with Sport Chrono when you come to sell, pay commensurately less now for the one without, then you're in exactly the same position.

If the dealer is telling you that you need to buy the one with, then sympathise with him because he must be having the same problem selling the one without, so because you're such a nice person you'll take it off his hands, as a favour to him for £x,000 less than the sticker price.
I had a 3.6 C2 997 without the Chrono & sold it within two weeks so unless you really want it don't buy it.

Jim909

207 posts

154 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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It wouldnt stop me from purchasing if the rest of the car was what i was looking for.

Por911T

461 posts

242 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Chrono is overrated and over hype'd . It's a scenario that's been generated by the sharp suits in the OPC showrooms . Unless in a turbo which I understand as part of the 'sport chrono' package gives over boost on the turbo when the feature is activated . That said I had it in my 997 turbo and hardly used it. My latest RS doesn't have it.

rashumon

5 posts

133 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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For me Chrono is/was a must have for the 997. The improvements to the PDK shift patterns and speeds and the throttle response are really quite substantial and the car feels a lot more sporty in Sport and then even more in Sports+ modes. To me my 997 feels rather pedestrian when in normal mode - e.g. within 5 secs of leaving a traffic light it's cruising in 5th gear which is great for economy and comfort on the daily runs but blah if you're driving in a more spirited manner.
Also I often drive it in manual mode and then it's just so much more fun with the sharper throttle and the quicker shifts.

I would strongly recommend against getting either a 997 or a 991 without this option. these cars are way quicker with Chrono.

crystalmethod

1,284 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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It's an ugly item in the dashboard. I think they look way better without.

I'd investigate a discount for the 997 without it, and then re getting the Sport+ button retrofitted as it does speed the PDK shifts.

ZX10R NIN

29,997 posts

148 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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rashumon said:
For me Chrono is/was a must have for the 997. The improvements to the PDK shift patterns and speeds and the throttle response are really quite substantial and the car feels a lot more sporty in Sport and then even more in Sports+ modes. To me my 997 feels rather pedestrian when in normal mode - e.g. within 5 secs of leaving a traffic light it's cruising in 5th gear which is great for economy and comfort on the daily runs but blah if you're driving in a more spirited manner.
Also I often drive it in manual mode and then it's just so much more fun with the sharper throttle and the quicker shifts.

I would strongly recommend against getting either a 997 or a 991 without this option. these cars are way quicker with Chrono.
Way quicker? I think not you're talking tenths not whole seconds.

rashumon

5 posts

133 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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ZX10R NIN said:
rashumon said:
For me Chrono is/was a must have for the 997. The improvements to the PDK shift patterns and speeds and the throttle response are really quite substantial and the car feels a lot more sporty in Sport and then even more in Sports+ modes. To me my 997 feels rather pedestrian when in normal mode - e.g. within 5 secs of leaving a traffic light it's cruising in 5th gear which is great for economy and comfort on the daily runs but blah if you're driving in a more spirited manner.
Also I often drive it in manual mode and then it's just so much more fun with the sharper throttle and the quicker shifts.

I would strongly recommend against getting either a 997 or a 991 without this option. these cars are way quicker with Chrono.
Way quicker? I think not you're talking tenths not whole seconds.
Tenths or whole secs, it feels like quite a different car on mine (2010 C2S PDK). Like I said the biggest diff is that the PDK behaves really differently in normal vs sports in auto mode and the throttle is quite a bit sharper.

I agree the timer thingie on the dash is pointless mind...

Shewie

558 posts

213 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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My 997.1tt seems to be one of the few without Sports Chrono and although I'm happier without the ugly clock on the dash, I am now considering the sports button retrofit to add the over boost function. I'm just not sure whether it justifies the outlay as the car isn't exactly slow without it. The consensus seems to be that it's nice to have, but is the change to the car worth spending upwards of £1000?

Also is it a fixed price upgrade or should I ring a few OPC's to check prices?

Magic919

14,150 posts

224 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Buy the car, retro-fit it.

crystalmethod

1,284 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Shewie said:
My 997.1tt seems to be one of the few without Sports Chrono and although I'm happier without the ugly clock on the dash, I am now considering the sports button retrofit to add the over boost function. I'm just not sure whether it justifies the outlay as the car isn't exactly slow without it. The consensus seems to be that it's nice to have, but is the change to the car worth spending upwards of £1000?

Also is it a fixed price upgrade or should I ring a few OPC's to check prices?
You feel the most effect of the system on PDK, as it speeds up shift time noticeably, and when in auto it holds the lower gears for longer. I really don't think you'd feel much difference in a non PDK car. Maybe a very marginal sharpening of throttle response, but I certainly wouldn't go spending £1k for that.

CGJJ

860 posts

147 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Sports chrono on the turbo radically diminishes lag.

CGJJ

860 posts

147 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Sports chrono on the turbo radically diminishes lag.

crystalmethod

1,284 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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CGJJ said:
Sports chrono on the turbo radically diminishes lag.
Ah OK. I stand corrected.

ZX10R NIN

29,997 posts

148 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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CGJJ said:
Sports chrono on the turbo radically diminishes lag.
Or just get your turbo mapped & leave the Chrono for dead, for half the price

JoeD15

9 posts

133 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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A friend of mine had a 997 and never regretted buying it. What car have you been driving up to now? I had a much loved Ducati and Harley Davidson but am moving onto a family Porche as I have a kid on the way.

jonno999

Original Poster:

12 posts

133 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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Guys, thanks for everyones comments. Drove one with Chrono & one without. I bought the one with! Just now need to wait 2 weeks to pick it up.....counting the days

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

237 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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It can be retrofitted, ergo whether a car has it or not is of at best marginal importance. On non-GT cars (on which it makes no difference except adding the stopwatch to the dash) you can also have the SC features (launch control, throttle map, overboost - whatever is appropriate to the model in question) retrofitted without installing the clock too.

FWIW: my gt3 has it - the last time it was used was by the dealer who sold me the car over 3 years ago.