991.2 Carrera S test drive
Discussion
Yesterday was a great day as days go. I had a bit of trouble sleeping the night before, which was interesting as I don't tend to get that excited by test drives. I mean clearly, I love cars and as such enjoy driving cars that I haven't driven before but not normally so much that it disturbs my sleep. So the 991.2 has lost none of its ownership appeal from my perspective, which is very interesting as I'd have thought that this would be the least interesting 911 to me.
Anyway, enough preamble. I got down to mid Sussex early, exchanged pleasantries with one of the sales guys, looked at the frankly gorgeous 918 and Cayman GT4 they had in the showroom and then went outside and got into the car.
Sales guy talked me through a few of the buttons, I synced the phone and switched on the car.... And wow, sounds pretty damn good, that's a big bark on start up. I then proceed to pootle down the road.
I quite like pootling for a bit when I drive a car, especially a sports car, it gives me a feel of whether I could live with the thing every day. Needless to say the new 991 behaved excellently as you'd expect, and the steering wheel has definitely regained its low speed voice. It's much more feel some than the 991.1 but still not as sweet as a 997's hydraulic system. Still, you get tuned into it pretty quickly.
Next I'm driving up a dual carriageway and the car is stable, fast and...quiet. No road roar from the tyres, just effortless pace. I decide to give it some beans but it picks so quickly on small throttle openings that I don't get to actually nail the throttle as I would have been able to in my car or any naturally aspirated 911.
The next few hours or so are spent showing the car to a friend and ferrying the kids around (who love it but think it's a bit cramped).
After a late lunch, the Mrs suggests going for a drive before heading back to drop the car off. We head towards Newlands corner which is a nice drive and I drive at around 5/10s enjoying myself but not pushing the car at all.
Anyway, it soon becomes clear that we're going to arrive back late. I put the dealership address into the satnav and its saying I'm going to arrive 5mins after the dealership closes! Doh!
Time to press on a bit and now the 991.2 really comes alive, the chassis is amazing, the car I tried had the 4Wheel steering system and my God in high speed bends it's just totally secure. The car remains pliant rough out the drive and I discover the joy of the button in the middle of the Porsche equivalent of the manettino. It puts the car in maximum attack mode 20s and it's mightily effective. The car just surges past anything, the sheer,rabid pace of the thing is incredible and it sounds good while doing it too! A mite linear compared to the NA engines but a nice noise nonetheless.
The throttle response is amazing once you have 2,000rpm dialled in and in tandem with PDK the engine works well. Needless to say, I arrived back with 20mins to spare. It's a wonderful road car, the new 991.2, I'd love to try it on track but as a daily driver, it's hard to beat! What a great car!
Anyway, enough preamble. I got down to mid Sussex early, exchanged pleasantries with one of the sales guys, looked at the frankly gorgeous 918 and Cayman GT4 they had in the showroom and then went outside and got into the car.
Sales guy talked me through a few of the buttons, I synced the phone and switched on the car.... And wow, sounds pretty damn good, that's a big bark on start up. I then proceed to pootle down the road.
I quite like pootling for a bit when I drive a car, especially a sports car, it gives me a feel of whether I could live with the thing every day. Needless to say the new 991 behaved excellently as you'd expect, and the steering wheel has definitely regained its low speed voice. It's much more feel some than the 991.1 but still not as sweet as a 997's hydraulic system. Still, you get tuned into it pretty quickly.
Next I'm driving up a dual carriageway and the car is stable, fast and...quiet. No road roar from the tyres, just effortless pace. I decide to give it some beans but it picks so quickly on small throttle openings that I don't get to actually nail the throttle as I would have been able to in my car or any naturally aspirated 911.
The next few hours or so are spent showing the car to a friend and ferrying the kids around (who love it but think it's a bit cramped).
After a late lunch, the Mrs suggests going for a drive before heading back to drop the car off. We head towards Newlands corner which is a nice drive and I drive at around 5/10s enjoying myself but not pushing the car at all.
Anyway, it soon becomes clear that we're going to arrive back late. I put the dealership address into the satnav and its saying I'm going to arrive 5mins after the dealership closes! Doh!
Time to press on a bit and now the 991.2 really comes alive, the chassis is amazing, the car I tried had the 4Wheel steering system and my God in high speed bends it's just totally secure. The car remains pliant rough out the drive and I discover the joy of the button in the middle of the Porsche equivalent of the manettino. It puts the car in maximum attack mode 20s and it's mightily effective. The car just surges past anything, the sheer,rabid pace of the thing is incredible and it sounds good while doing it too! A mite linear compared to the NA engines but a nice noise nonetheless.
The throttle response is amazing once you have 2,000rpm dialled in and in tandem with PDK the engine works well. Needless to say, I arrived back with 20mins to spare. It's a wonderful road car, the new 991.2, I'd love to try it on track but as a daily driver, it's hard to beat! What a great car!
c4sman said:
Sounded like a great day and thanks for the write up.
It did sound a little like driving a 911 Turbo in terms of huge everyday effortless performance but not clear if you found it a very engaging sports car?
I echo these thoughts exactly. The Carrera seems to have effectively become the turbo, and the turbo seems to have become a piece of engineering excellence that is rather pointless, although in a good way as nuts cars always are.It did sound a little like driving a 911 Turbo in terms of huge everyday effortless performance but not clear if you found it a very engaging sports car?
One does wonder where it will all end, and I know it's been said many times before that all modern sports cars are too powerful for the road, but fast forward another 10 years and at the rate things are going we're going to have 550bhp Carreras Ss, 480bhp boggo Carreras and 450bhp Caysters. All of which that have max grunt available from tickover...
Mario149 said:
.... but fast forward another 10 years and at the rate things are going we're going to have 550bhp Carreras Ss, 480bhp boggo Carreras and 450bhp Caysters. All of which that have max grunt available from tickover...
Maybe, maybe not. In ten years we will be deep into electric, hybrid, hydrogen and maybe self driving cars. The combustion engine might be nearing its end.It could well be pretty pointless driving a 200mph car.
Its hard to predict, I guess theres a lot of water to go under the bridge yet!
hornbaek said:
All of which that have max grunt available from tickover...
... so they will all be 100% electrichttp://www.porsche.com/uk/models/911/911-carrera/f...
mollytherocker said:
Mario149 said:
.... but fast forward another 10 years and at the rate things are going we're going to have 550bhp Carreras Ss, 480bhp boggo Carreras and 450bhp Caysters. All of which that have max grunt available from tickover...
Maybe, maybe not. In ten years we will be deep into electric, hybrid, hydrogen and maybe self driving cars. The combustion engine might be nearing its end.It could well be pretty pointless driving a 200mph car.
Its hard to predict, I guess theres a lot of water to go under the bridge yet!
Mario149 said:
mollytherocker said:
Mario149 said:
.... but fast forward another 10 years and at the rate things are going we're going to have 550bhp Carreras Ss, 480bhp boggo Carreras and 450bhp Caysters. All of which that have max grunt available from tickover...
Maybe, maybe not. In ten years we will be deep into electric, hybrid, hydrogen and maybe self driving cars. The combustion engine might be nearing its end.It could well be pretty pointless driving a 200mph car.
Its hard to predict, I guess theres a lot of water to go under the bridge yet!
tuffer said:
No no, you have it all wrong, Turbo charging has ruined it...... 
I also thought it was rather good.
I have no doubt the car is very good, and I am almost 100% sure I would enjoy driving it I also thought it was rather good.
The "problem" (and to be fair it's not the worst problem to have) is that now your non-GT 911 options are basically:1) 911 Turbo (Carrera)
2) Ridiculous 911 Turbo (Turbo)
3) Even more ridiculous 911 Turbo (Turbo S)
If you loved the 996/997 Turbos, you're quids in as you can now basically get their performance for the price of a regular Carrera. But if you liked the character of Carrera how it was and were not averse to having a little more oomph everywhere, you're now bang out of luck
Mario149 said:
tuffer said:
No no, you have it all wrong, Turbo charging has ruined it......
I also thought it was rather good.
I have no doubt the car is very good, and I am almost 100% sure I would enjoy driving it I also thought it was rather good.
The "problem" (and to be fair it's not the worst problem to have) is that now your non-GT 911 options are basically:1) 911 Turbo (Carrera)
2) Ridiculous 911 Turbo (Turbo)
3) Even more ridiculous 911 Turbo (Turbo S)
If you loved the 996/997 Turbos, you're quids in as you can now basically get their performance for the price of a regular Carrera. But if you liked the character of Carrera how it was and were not averse to having a little more oomph everywhere, you're now bang out of luck
tuffer said:
Lotus.
I test drove an Exige S a few months ago, and while good in isolation, it's not a patch on on a 981 Cayster (GT)S, let alone a 911. It may be faster and have more feel, but that's it. The supercharged V6 can charitably be described "effecive", but if you've come out of a F6 NA Porsche, it's crushingly disappointing in terms of character. If you're after an all round package, as much as I love Lotus, they're not in the running IMO unless the Evora is about 50% better in every department than an Exige.Mario149 said:
tuffer said:
Lotus.
I test drove an Exige S a few months ago, and while good in isolation, it's not a patch on on a 981 Cayster (GT)S, let alone a 911. It may be faster and have more feel, but that's it. The supercharged V6 can charitably be described "effecive", but if you've come out of a F6 NA Porsche, it's crushingly disappointing in terms of character. If you're after an all round package, as much as I love Lotus, they're not in the running IMO unless the Evora is about 50% better in every department than an Exige.tuffer said:
Exactly, that is why I will be sticking with a 911 even if it is Turbo charged.
There's a good chance I would too, but the gap has narrowed between them and unfortunately not because the Exige has suddenly got better, which is a bit sad 
For the record, I'm not opposed to forced induction done "right" so that it delivers reasonably linearly increasing torque. The 310bhp supercharged 2L duratec in my Caterham 620R revs to 7.8K or so, develops max torque at 7.3 or so and feels like a tuned 3 litre lump. The harder you rev it the more mental it gets and is most definitely not like a modern turbo 2L engine
Ironically the Exige does the same it just sounds s
teToday I was handed a 991.2 C2S for an extended 48-hour test drive. I approached the car with a genuinely open mind, thinking that if I really liked it, I might swap my GTS for a new build in a couple of months. I wanted to love it.
Within minutes of driving off the dealer lot, I knew that things were in trouble - and regardless of how much I tried throughout the day, that initial impression never went away.
The first thing that struck me is how quiet the engine is, to the point where I had to double-check that the sports exhaust was really on (it was). Right up to 7000rpm, the engine sounds more like a vacuum cleaner than a boxer, and all the sports exhaust does is add artificial crackles on the overrun. The signature howl and yowl of the old NA engine are resolutely gone. When I dropped the windows to hear the sound outside the cabin, all I got was loud whistling from the turbochargers. Make no mistake about it: the 991.2 sounds like a poor man's excuse for a sports car.
Oh well, I thought, the sense of occasion might have gone, but perhaps the fabled added dollop of torque will make for a more exhilarating drive. "It's blindingly quick", the dealer had whispered in my ear before setting off, "just put your foot down anywhere between 30-60mph, and you'll have your ears pinned back by the instant rush of acceleration". The reality was somewhat muted by comparison: I found little noticeable added shove compared to my GTS in real-world conditions, and certainly not to the level where you'd say this was a step change in driving characteristics. It all just felt a little more electronic, a little more distanced, and a little less involving than the 991.1. It felt quick, yes, but in a yawning effortless kind of way. And of course that sprint to the redline, with the irresistibly satisfying surge of power and torque from the old engine - well that's all gone.
I have no doubt the 991.2 will sell by the boatload to rich bankers and corporate types keen to flit about in a fast, flash car. It continues to be a very accomplished car. For those amongst us who treasure the 911 for the unique character it's had for 50 years, however, this is a sobering end to an era.
At least the infotainment system was great.
Within minutes of driving off the dealer lot, I knew that things were in trouble - and regardless of how much I tried throughout the day, that initial impression never went away.
The first thing that struck me is how quiet the engine is, to the point where I had to double-check that the sports exhaust was really on (it was). Right up to 7000rpm, the engine sounds more like a vacuum cleaner than a boxer, and all the sports exhaust does is add artificial crackles on the overrun. The signature howl and yowl of the old NA engine are resolutely gone. When I dropped the windows to hear the sound outside the cabin, all I got was loud whistling from the turbochargers. Make no mistake about it: the 991.2 sounds like a poor man's excuse for a sports car.
Oh well, I thought, the sense of occasion might have gone, but perhaps the fabled added dollop of torque will make for a more exhilarating drive. "It's blindingly quick", the dealer had whispered in my ear before setting off, "just put your foot down anywhere between 30-60mph, and you'll have your ears pinned back by the instant rush of acceleration". The reality was somewhat muted by comparison: I found little noticeable added shove compared to my GTS in real-world conditions, and certainly not to the level where you'd say this was a step change in driving characteristics. It all just felt a little more electronic, a little more distanced, and a little less involving than the 991.1. It felt quick, yes, but in a yawning effortless kind of way. And of course that sprint to the redline, with the irresistibly satisfying surge of power and torque from the old engine - well that's all gone.
I have no doubt the 991.2 will sell by the boatload to rich bankers and corporate types keen to flit about in a fast, flash car. It continues to be a very accomplished car. For those amongst us who treasure the 911 for the unique character it's had for 50 years, however, this is a sobering end to an era.
At least the infotainment system was great.
Edited by RankAmateur on Tuesday 26th January 13:45
RankAmateur said:
Today I was handed a 991.2 C2S for an extended 48-hour test drive. I approached the car with a genuinely open mind, thinking that if I really liked it, I might swap my GTS for a new build in a couple of months. I wanted to love it.
Within minutes of driving off the dealer lot, I knew that things were in trouble - and regardless of how much I tried throughout the day, that initial impression never went away.
The first thing that struck me is how quiet the engine is, to the point where I had to double-check that the sports exhaust was really on (it was). Right up to 7000rpm, the engine sounds more like a vacuum cleaner than a boxer, and all the sports exhaust does is add artificial crackles on the overrun. The signature howl and yowl of the old NA engine are resolutely gone. When I dropped the windows to hear the sound outside the cabin, all I got was loud whistling from the turbochargers. Make no mistake about it: the 991.2 sounds like a poor man's excuse for a sports car.
Oh well, I thought, the sense of occasion might have gone, but perhaps the fabled added dollop of torque will make for a more exhilarating drive. "It's blindingly quick", the dealer had whispered in my ear before setting off, "just put your foot down anywhere between 30-60mph, and you'll have your ears pinned back by the instant rush of acceleration". The reality was somewhat muted by comparison: I found little noticeable added shove compared to my GTS in real-world conditions, and certainly not to the level where you'd say this was a step change in driving characteristics. It all just felt a little more electronic, a little more distanced, and a little less involving than the 991.1. It felt quick, yes, but in a yawning effortless kind of way. And of course that sprint to the redline, with the irresistibly satisfying surge of power and torque from the old engine - well that's all gone.
I have no doubt the 991.2 will sell by the boatload to rich bankers and corporate types keen to flit about in a fast, flash car. It continues to be a very accomplished car. For those amongst us who treasure the 911 for the unique character it's had for 50 years, however, this is a sobering end to an era.
At least the infotainment system was great.
Is that really the case? Were you wanting to love the car or did you approach it with significant doubt? I only ask as everything i've read to date although agreeing some of the rawness has been dialled out has been replaced with a huge dollop of performance & giggles. Let's not forget the car world is all about lower emissions, better economy & being more panda/seal friendly & as such the volume being reduced a couple of notches was i guess to be expected. That said if like you say the new 911's really have dumbed down the whole 911 experience then i too would be concerned. More so as i'm hoping to scratch my 911 Turbo itch next year & acquire what will be my first ever Porsche, so would hate to think that experience has already passed me by before i ever got to own one.Within minutes of driving off the dealer lot, I knew that things were in trouble - and regardless of how much I tried throughout the day, that initial impression never went away.
The first thing that struck me is how quiet the engine is, to the point where I had to double-check that the sports exhaust was really on (it was). Right up to 7000rpm, the engine sounds more like a vacuum cleaner than a boxer, and all the sports exhaust does is add artificial crackles on the overrun. The signature howl and yowl of the old NA engine are resolutely gone. When I dropped the windows to hear the sound outside the cabin, all I got was loud whistling from the turbochargers. Make no mistake about it: the 991.2 sounds like a poor man's excuse for a sports car.
Oh well, I thought, the sense of occasion might have gone, but perhaps the fabled added dollop of torque will make for a more exhilarating drive. "It's blindingly quick", the dealer had whispered in my ear before setting off, "just put your foot down anywhere between 30-60mph, and you'll have your ears pinned back by the instant rush of acceleration". The reality was somewhat muted by comparison: I found little noticeable added shove compared to my GTS in real-world conditions, and certainly not to the level where you'd say this was a step change in driving characteristics. It all just felt a little more electronic, a little more distanced, and a little less involving than the 991.1. It felt quick, yes, but in a yawning effortless kind of way. And of course that sprint to the redline, with the irresistibly satisfying surge of power and torque from the old engine - well that's all gone.
I have no doubt the 991.2 will sell by the boatload to rich bankers and corporate types keen to flit about in a fast, flash car. It continues to be a very accomplished car. For those amongst us who treasure the 911 for the unique character it's had for 50 years, however, this is a sobering end to an era.
At least the infotainment system was great.
Edited by RankAmateur on Tuesday 26th January 13:45
I think the key thing is here though that you're buying a Turbo. Its fundamental nature has not changed between 991.1 and 991.2, so you're not too late, you're just getting faster slightly more competent version of the previous gen. With a Carrera though, the fundamental nature of the engine and its power delivery has changed, which means unless you go down to an OPC tomorrow and they somehow still have Black Edition or GTS build slot, your chance of ordering a NA Carrera is now gone forever. It's the reason why i shelled out for a new Boxster GTS 6 months ago: ordering a new Porsche was on my bucket list, but it was never supposed to involve a turbo engine, let alone a 4 cylinder one, so it was my last chance to get a car to my perfect spec with the NA F6 engine I wanted . Since I couldn't stretch to or justify the extra cost of a 911 GTS, I got myself a BGTS, and I'm damn glad I did!
Got myself a test e 991.2 C2S today as the dealer was putting the final touches on my purchase of a 991 GT3 (more of which later).
It's actually not a bad thing; the chassis is significantly better than the last 991 I drove, which felt inert and too balanced (if there is such a thing) for my liking, distributing mid-corner load evenly across all four wheels without me ever feeling like I could adjust it. The new one seems to have regained a lot of the old 911 traits, with the back feeling like it can be brought into play more easily on corner entry and exit. And the torque means you barely have to feather the throttle for the car to get frisky. And the steering is miles better than the older EPAS system. Too me it is a monumental improvement on a car I never much liked. It felt like it came ready to play, like a 911 should.
But having said all that, it's very much a turbo engine. I don't know what the journalists are talking about, stepping out of a 997 GTS it feels like the throttle is lubricated with treacle in comparison. And the car sounds worse, less verbose, less musical, and to my ears less of a difference between PSE on and off. It simply wouldn't do it for me, and I suspect a lot of people might ultimately feel the same. Except it won't be the people who actually buy these cars, where the 991.2 now feels like it excels in the everyday usability stakes (the PCM menus fading in as you move your hand up to the screen a particularly neat touch) while being able to play the hooligan on demand, with a chassis that is so exploitable that doing so requires little more than a flex of a toe and the flick of a wrist.
Achleitner has previously talked about increasing the 911's bandwidth, by making it both more comfortable and faster when pushed. Except it feels to me like the middle register, where most enthusiasts spend their time enjoying the car being driven briskly at 7/10 and savouring the feedback, has been narrowed. It's definitely better to live with, and feels like it would be way faster on a track, but driving fast on a road it also feels kind of one-dimensional and lacking in both challenge and ultimate reward.
A shame.
It's actually not a bad thing; the chassis is significantly better than the last 991 I drove, which felt inert and too balanced (if there is such a thing) for my liking, distributing mid-corner load evenly across all four wheels without me ever feeling like I could adjust it. The new one seems to have regained a lot of the old 911 traits, with the back feeling like it can be brought into play more easily on corner entry and exit. And the torque means you barely have to feather the throttle for the car to get frisky. And the steering is miles better than the older EPAS system. Too me it is a monumental improvement on a car I never much liked. It felt like it came ready to play, like a 911 should.
But having said all that, it's very much a turbo engine. I don't know what the journalists are talking about, stepping out of a 997 GTS it feels like the throttle is lubricated with treacle in comparison. And the car sounds worse, less verbose, less musical, and to my ears less of a difference between PSE on and off. It simply wouldn't do it for me, and I suspect a lot of people might ultimately feel the same. Except it won't be the people who actually buy these cars, where the 991.2 now feels like it excels in the everyday usability stakes (the PCM menus fading in as you move your hand up to the screen a particularly neat touch) while being able to play the hooligan on demand, with a chassis that is so exploitable that doing so requires little more than a flex of a toe and the flick of a wrist.
Achleitner has previously talked about increasing the 911's bandwidth, by making it both more comfortable and faster when pushed. Except it feels to me like the middle register, where most enthusiasts spend their time enjoying the car being driven briskly at 7/10 and savouring the feedback, has been narrowed. It's definitely better to live with, and feels like it would be way faster on a track, but driving fast on a road it also feels kind of one-dimensional and lacking in both challenge and ultimate reward.
A shame.
Nimerino said:
Got myself a test e 991.2 C2S today as the dealer was putting the final touches on my purchase of a 991 GT3 (more of which later).
It's actually not a bad thing; the chassis is significantly better than the last 991 I drove, which felt inert and too balanced (if there is such a thing) for my liking, distributing mid-corner load evenly across all four wheels without me ever feeling like I could adjust it. The new one seems to have regained a lot of the old 911 traits, with the back feeling like it can be brought into play more easily on corner entry and exit. And the torque means you barely have to feather the throttle for the car to get frisky. And the steering is miles better than the older EPAS system. Too me it is a monumental improvement on a car I never much liked. It felt like it came ready to play, like a 911 should.
But having said all that, it's very much a turbo engine. I don't know what the journalists are talking about, stepping out of a 997 GTS it feels like the throttle is lubricated with treacle in comparison. And the car sounds worse, less verbose, less musical, and to my ears less of a difference between PSE on and off. It simply wouldn't do it for me, and I suspect a lot of people might ultimately feel the same. Except it won't be the people who actually buy these cars, where the 991.2 now feels like it excels in the everyday usability stakes (the PCM menus fading in as you move your hand up to the screen a particularly neat touch) while being able to play the hooligan on demand, with a chassis that is so exploitable that doing so requires little more than a flex of a toe and the flick of a wrist.
Achleitner has previously talked about increasing the 911's bandwidth, by making it both more comfortable and faster when pushed. Except it feels to me like the middle register, where most enthusiasts spend their time enjoying the car being driven briskly at 7/10 and savouring the feedback, has been narrowed. It's definitely better to live with, and feels like it would be way faster on a track, but driving fast on a road it also feels kind of one-dimensional and lacking in both challenge and ultimate reward.
A shame.
Fair points i guess. Having never owned any Porsche i really didn't want to feel i'm somehow getting in late & missing all the fun, however i guess with nothing to compare my potential purchase too i'll end up loving the car for exactly what it is today & not what it used to be. I've owned fast NA cars, although definitely more fast Turbo cars so although i see the merits in both i guess i'd be more inclined to lean towards induction & thus never having owned a NA 911 & the Turbo or Turbo S being the car i lusted after from childhood, i'll unlikely be disappointed (i hope).It's actually not a bad thing; the chassis is significantly better than the last 991 I drove, which felt inert and too balanced (if there is such a thing) for my liking, distributing mid-corner load evenly across all four wheels without me ever feeling like I could adjust it. The new one seems to have regained a lot of the old 911 traits, with the back feeling like it can be brought into play more easily on corner entry and exit. And the torque means you barely have to feather the throttle for the car to get frisky. And the steering is miles better than the older EPAS system. Too me it is a monumental improvement on a car I never much liked. It felt like it came ready to play, like a 911 should.
But having said all that, it's very much a turbo engine. I don't know what the journalists are talking about, stepping out of a 997 GTS it feels like the throttle is lubricated with treacle in comparison. And the car sounds worse, less verbose, less musical, and to my ears less of a difference between PSE on and off. It simply wouldn't do it for me, and I suspect a lot of people might ultimately feel the same. Except it won't be the people who actually buy these cars, where the 991.2 now feels like it excels in the everyday usability stakes (the PCM menus fading in as you move your hand up to the screen a particularly neat touch) while being able to play the hooligan on demand, with a chassis that is so exploitable that doing so requires little more than a flex of a toe and the flick of a wrist.
Achleitner has previously talked about increasing the 911's bandwidth, by making it both more comfortable and faster when pushed. Except it feels to me like the middle register, where most enthusiasts spend their time enjoying the car being driven briskly at 7/10 and savouring the feedback, has been narrowed. It's definitely better to live with, and feels like it would be way faster on a track, but driving fast on a road it also feels kind of one-dimensional and lacking in both challenge and ultimate reward.
A shame.
I'm not old skool enough to appreciate what used to be as unfortunately i like the new shiny things & as such if the 991.2 is a step forward in performance, function, driver involvement, safety, form & the other lesser factors such as economy & emissions then i'd always be drawn to those.
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