997.2 Turbo Kline Full Sysytem

[Paul_RH]

Hi,

Recently bought a superb 997.2 turbo from OPC Sheffield. I want to get the underside of my car as immaculate as the top side and I've started this project by buying a gorgeous Kline Innovation full stainless system with headers, decat and 200 cell cat thingy.

Now, before asking OPC outright I thought I'd ask here first..... Will fitting it (no remap yet) totally void the OPC warranty? Of which there is about 18 months to run.

I've read some stories that it won't affect it but I doubt this. I've also read that a brand new purchase (which of course mine isn't) has a more lenient approach to mods. Thoughts appreciated. Cheers.

[Porsche911R]

well it will void anything it's connect with so no engine warranty etc

and no chance of renewal.

[finestjammy]

Paul_RH said:

Hi,

Recently bought a superb 997.2 turbo from OPC Sheffield. I want to get the underside of my car as immaculate as the top side and I've started this project by buying a gorgeous Kline Innovation full stainless system with headers, decat and 200 cell cat thingy.

Now, before asking OPC outright I thought I'd ask here first..... Will fitting it (no remap yet) totally void the OPC warranty? Of which there is about 18 months to run.

I've read some stories that it won't affect it but I doubt this. I've also read that a brand new purchase (which of course mine isn't) has a more lenient approach to mods. Thoughts appreciated. Cheers.

Anything to do with gearbox/engine I'd imagine they wouldn't entertain a warranty claim. If the wiper motor packs up I think you'd be fine. I don't think it's a total void of all components if you fit something non standard, just the items that may have been affected by the fitment of those parts. I'm sure I will be duly corrected if that's not right though.

As an example, not directly the same but might help, I have a dashcam wired in, non Porsche brakes and wipers. The rear light unit started filling with water and they replaced it no problem, that was by Sheffield OPC by the way. A big shiny exhaust might be a bit more obvious than my little mods though

Enjoy your purchase.

Edited by finestjammy on Tuesday 14th June 15:02

[Paul_RH]

Porsche911R said:

well it will void anything it's connect with so no engine warranty etc

and no chance of renewal.

Yeah, thought so. I'm not interested in warranty renewal tbh. Apparently OPC mod rules are crackers, you can't even fit an after market battery.

I don't want a gazillion BHP as it's a bloody 500HP missile standard but I'm always itching to tastefully mod stuff whether its bikes or cars. I'll have a word with OPC when I take it for a service next month. Or maybe not - might blow my cover, he he ....

[Paul_RH]

finestjammy said:

Anything to do with gearbox/engine I'd imagine they wouldn't entertain a warranty claim. If the wiper motor packs up I think you'd be fine. I don't think it's a total void of all components if you fit something non standard, just the items that may have been affected by the fitment of those parts. I'm sure I will be duly corrected if that's not right though.

As an example, not directly the same but might help, I have a dashcam wired in, non Porsche brakes and wipers. The rear light unit started filling with water and they replaced it no problem, that was by Sheffield OPC by the way. A big shiny exhaust might be a bit more obvious than my little mods though

Enjoy your purchase.

Edited by finestjammy on Tuesday 14th June 15:02

That sounds logical. And yes, it'll be difficult to conceal a big new shiny exhaust. I think I could see it from the moon on a sunny day!!

[mm450exc]

+1 Anything engine/gearbox will not be covered.

Porsche technical live on another planet! I was running SRF in my GT3. Had OPC cycle the ABS module which failed to do so on one circuit. Porsche not so technical said that SRF brake fluid broke the ABS module! Shocking statement! Took this all they way and they ended up covering 50%. Clowns!

[Paul_RH]

mm450exc said:

+1 Anything engine/gearbox will not be covered.

Porsche technical live on another planet! I was running SRF in my GT3. Had OPC cycle the ABS module which failed to do so on one circuit. Porsche not so technical said that SRF brake fluid broke the ABS module! Shocking statement! Took this all they way and they ended up covering 50%. Clowns!

Ffs, that's ridiculous! This OPC warranty reminds me of insurance underwriting. Give them any wriggle space and they'll wriggle (out of it).

The OPC warranty thing has obviously been scrutinized and approved by the Porsche bean counters otherwise it wouldn't be there. I for one won't be renewing it. I think people renew in the hope of blagging a new pair of turbo's, engine rebuild or a box fresh PDK unit. A very rare occurrence I'd imagine.

I'll be pretty relaxed when I'm on side with a good passionate indie. I reckon any frailties (if any) will be exposed in my car over the next 18 months. Mind you, I'll change my tune on OPC warranty if my motor goes pop! I'll probably think it's the best thing since sliced bread!!

[finestjammy]

Paul_RH said:

Ffs, that's ridiculous! This OPC warranty reminds me of insurance underwriting. Give them any wriggle space and they'll wriggle (out of it).

The OPC warranty thing has obviously been scrutinized and approved by the Porsche bean counters otherwise it wouldn't be there. I for one won't be renewing it. I think people renew in the hope of blagging a new pair of turbo's, engine rebuild or a box fresh PDK unit. A very rare occurrence I'd imagine.

I'll be pretty relaxed when I'm on side with a good passionate indie. I reckon any frailties (if any) will be exposed in my car over the next 18 months. Mind you, I'll change my tune on OPC warranty if my motor goes pop! I'll probably think it's the best thing since sliced bread!!

I can recommend these guys highly at Grimethorpe, spit and sawdust is probably doing the premises a favour, but John and John (handy when you phone) are fantastic and their rates are super cheap. They are boh ex OPC technicians, one Sheffield and one Leeds. I've found them MUCH better than a more central Sheffileld Porsche independent.

http://www.pecarspecialists.co.uk

[Magic919]

My OPC were not interested in changes made to the exhaust as long as the car didn't throw engine warning lights.

[Paul_RH]

Magic919 said:

My OPC were not interested in changes made to the exhaust as long as the car didn't throw engine warning lights.

Interesting. But did you buy your car brand spankers with a Porsche 3 year 'factory' warranty or was it a post 111 check OPC warranty? I think they differentiate between the two. They're a bit more nervous with the latter type and very strict with mods. Cheers, Paul.

[Paul_RH]

finestjammy said:

I can recommend these guys highly at Grimethorpe, spit and sawdust is probably doing the premises a favour, but John and John (handy when you phone) are fantastic and their rates are super cheap. They are boh ex OPC technicians, one Sheffield and one Leeds. I've found them MUCH better than a more central Sheffileld Porsche independent.

http://www.pecarspecialists.co.uk

Thanks for that.

[Magic919]

Used car extended type, not new.

[chrisABP]

I've had extended warranty work on my 997 GTS which had the Sharkwerks bypass pipe fitted no problem. Also had a customer who had a new engine (3rd unit!) on his 991 GT3 which had a bypass pipe installed.

Not renewed my warranty when it expired in April as can't be arsed to remove my mods and happy to bank the warranty cost for any rainy day...

[Paul_RH]

Thanks guys. I'll get it slapped on then! Best leave the decat and remap out for now. That might be stretching my luck a bit....

[Paul_RH]

Magic919 said:

My OPC were not interested in changes made to the exhaust as long as the car didn't throw engine warning lights.

Well, I spoke with my OPC the other day (Sheffield) and they said no chance. Basically if I slap an aftermarket system on the warranty will be well and truly void. Anything connected, ie everything of value.

[Magic919]

They do vary.

[Cheib]

The fact the warranty interpretation varies so much from OPC to OPC is ridiculous! What do the T's and C's say ?

[Magic919]

I'm sure they would let objectors opt out.

[Paul_RH]

Magic919 said:

They do vary.

I tried to nail him on this point but he strongly assured me there was a united front with all OPC's on the aftermarket exhaust thing... Such a shame too. The Kline full system is such a work of art, the equal length manifold headers are gorgeous, hugely improved on OE.

[tenfour]

Paul_RH said:

Hi,

Recently bought a superb 997.2 turbo from OPC Sheffield. I want to get the underside of my car as immaculate as the top side and I've started this project by buying a gorgeous Kline Innovation full stainless system with headers, decat and 200 cell cat thingy.

Now, before asking OPC outright I thought I'd ask here first..... Will fitting it (no remap yet) totally void the OPC warranty? Of which there is about 18 months to run.

I've read some stories that it won't affect it but I doubt this. I've also read that a brand new purchase (which of course mine isn't) has a more lenient approach to mods. Thoughts appreciated. Cheers.

Technically, any non-standard Porsche part will void your warranty. Some OPCs may apply more discretion than others, but they don't have to; the warranty terms are absolute. Therefore, given that you're paying for the warranty in the purchase price (amongst other things), it seems illogical to risk this for the sake of some mods.

To give you another perspective, I fitted some Pagid R29s to my GT3 (the exact OE spec) but because I'd not used Porsche grease on the backing plates ( I used copper slip instead), my OPC in Guildford had a polite word with me before approving a warranty claim on an airbag light. True story!