Discussion
Time for some new rears (again!).
Currently running n rated MPS2's all round (I've always run n rated over the 100k miles I've had the car), but wondering if there's any downside to going a bit lower priced (plenty of life left in the front MPS2's)... road use only.
MPS2 are £440 a pair from Event tyres, but Toyo Proxies T1's are £200 less, and Yoko Advan's £170 less.
Anyone had any experience of these?
Currently running n rated MPS2's all round (I've always run n rated over the 100k miles I've had the car), but wondering if there's any downside to going a bit lower priced (plenty of life left in the front MPS2's)... road use only.
MPS2 are £440 a pair from Event tyres, but Toyo Proxies T1's are £200 less, and Yoko Advan's £170 less.
Anyone had any experience of these?
MrJingles705 said:
I've run the Advans; fine in the dry, but awful in the wet. Can't recommend them for road use.
If not the PS2's I'd go for the PS4
Thanks... that's the kind of info I was after.If not the PS2's I'd go for the PS4
At the moment, I'm either going to go PS4 (265/35 @ c.£350) or PS2 (285/30 @ £420)... I've not run 285's before, but would like to try them (mainly for aesthetic reasons)... I get through 2 sets of rears a year, so if I don't like them I can go back to 265's in 6 months or so.
Chris Stott said:
MrJingles705 said:
I've run the Advans; fine in the dry, but awful in the wet. Can't recommend them for road use.
If not the PS2's I'd go for the PS4
Thanks... that's the kind of info I was after.If not the PS2's I'd go for the PS4
At the moment, I'm either going to go PS4 (265/35 @ c.£350) or PS2 (285/30 @ £420)... I've not run 285's before, but would like to try them (mainly for aesthetic reasons)... I get through 2 sets of rears a year, so if I don't like them I can go back to 265's in 6 months or so.
bgunn said:
Aesthetics maybe, but 285 will over tyre the car at the rear. If you want the car to have more balance, 265s are plenty plenty enough. It'll understeer on the limit anyway unless you've altered the geo.
It's 20mm of extra tyre width (7.5%)... it's not going to change the balance that much.In any case, it's a road car and a daily driver... I drive it quickly, but I don't drive 'on the limit'... even on 265's, you'd have to be travelling at silly speeds to have the car properly moving around (beyond the grip limit) in the dry in anything above 2nd gear.
anonymous said:
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As you say, interesting. The problem I had was in one of two scenarios:1) Motorways - not quite aquaplanning, but definately borderline (getting light/twitchy). Meant that in medium to heavy rain I was backing right down to HGV speeds.
2) Roundabouts - I found that the rears on these would break loose if I was driving even slightly enthusiastically when there was a light drizzle on.... which would be par the course if the PS2's doing same route/speed in identical(ish) weather didn't manage the same perfectly without drama.
The 2nd one of those is debatable, but the 1st was a real concern and what ultimately convinced me to ditch them and go back to the PS2's.
Will stress again in the dry they were mighty - same can be said about the pirellis as well, very little in it in the dry but wet weather and the rossos just didn't work for me.
Just another thought.... you said running a narrower tyre? possibly that impacts on aquaplaning (narrow/thin generally more resistant than wider for same given weight, within paramaters, as you end up with a move oval contact patch front to back and hence less water to shift?)*
- Based on stuff I've read rather than practical testing.
anonymous said:
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When I say heavy rain I'm talking proper "fast wipe is barely/not keeping up, would rather park up and wait it out" not "time for the fast wipe/leave some gap for spray". There are very, very few tyres/cars that can carry on at say 70-75mph in that kind of rain for mile after mile without at least a few twitchy moments. So you don't, generally (welll, some people do but they are basically idiots). On the road, when conditions start to go south, I prefer to be reasonably under the line where tyres. Not just fine, but with a decent margin. For all I know they would have held on most of the time at 65mph, but I'd rather back off a little more and be sure. The fact is I never felt the need to back off any more than 'usual' given the weather conditions with the PS2's, I was adapting and buying myself a little margin, but with the Advan's I dropped in a 5-10mph "margin" precisely because I could feel I was hitting the limits of what was safe.
When it's dry or lightly wet of course like anyone who owns these fine pieces of engineering I like to have a little fun
And if I'm mixing it up in FF1600 then I wring the neck of the car and I'll take it right to the threshold (ACB10's for the win). But since we both violently agree on their dry handling capabilities..... meh.This might be an agree to disagree moment I'm afraid.
Chris Stott said:
285's were an option on 996's, so I'm not doing anything crazy.
Only potential downside I see is ride quality on 30 profile... like I said, not made my mind up yet, but they'll only be on for 6k miles. If I don't like them I'll go back to 265's.
The 285 width rears were standard on the 3.6 996 carrera with 18 inch wheels.Only potential downside I see is ride quality on 30 profile... like I said, not made my mind up yet, but they'll only be on for 6k miles. If I don't like them I'll go back to 265's.
I am not sure that your concern over ride quality with a 30 profile on a 285 against the 35 profile on a 265 is that valid as the actual sidewall height on both those is near identical ( otherwise it would alter the gearing). So if the sidewall height is almost the same then I would assume the ride quality would be almost the same.
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