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If the price to change doesn't stress you, take the deal. You'll be using Waze or similar anyway! Rest of spec looks great and you can still stream music with phone prep.
You'll get close to free motoring as gt3 values unlikely to fall, and hopefully your perfect spec car down the line, which again may be free motoring.
I did the same deal albeit on my gt4. Out of interest what makes you lust after a gt3 after gt4 ownership? The thought to look at gt3s never occurred to me but you might be about to lead me down an expensive and slippery slope!
You'll get close to free motoring as gt3 values unlikely to fall, and hopefully your perfect spec car down the line, which again may be free motoring.
I did the same deal albeit on my gt4. Out of interest what makes you lust after a gt3 after gt4 ownership? The thought to look at gt3s never occurred to me but you might be about to lead me down an expensive and slippery slope!
I have avoided driving a GT3 for the reason I found yesterday I would love it, the engine. Sound and feel is epic. My GT4 is amazing and I really really love it but I always though it needed that little more power.
When I drove the GT3 yesterday I was hooked, I drove it back to back with a 991.2 Turbo and although that was blisteringly quick it wasn't me.
When I drove the GT3 yesterday I was hooked, I drove it back to back with a 991.2 Turbo and although that was blisteringly quick it wasn't me.
I'd go for it if your GT4 p/x is good value and it guarantees you a 991.2 GT3 next year which you can spec to your personal choice.
The only think to expect is that you will take a hit on this Red GT3 when it is trade in time as the OPC isn't going to let you take a brand new GT3 as a near swap (My spec with PCCB's and PTS is about £138k) and will want their pound of flesh back in the GT3. If you are happy with this then I would go ahead and do it
The only think to expect is that you will take a hit on this Red GT3 when it is trade in time as the OPC isn't going to let you take a brand new GT3 as a near swap (My spec with PCCB's and PTS is about £138k) and will want their pound of flesh back in the GT3. If you are happy with this then I would go ahead and do it
I'd do it purely to get the allocation for next year....depending on how well you know them you'd want to get some surety about the 2018 car. I'd say it is definitely over priced....my guess is it's probably worth £110k in the trade at the moment. JZM retailed a mint PTS CS car for a similar price a couple of months ago...it looked good value and didn't hang around mind.
If you trust them 100 percent to get you a gen 2 GT3 allocation then go for it as these cars will be £200k plus and probably for some time being the last and possibly best of the line.
Otherwise I would want some written confirmation about a guaranteed build slot.......a 64 plater without nav is around £100k trade so if the gen 2 isn't forthcoming you could be looking at least a £30k plus hit to get into something else.
Also bear in mind it could be some time yet before 2018 allocations are known but most OPCs expect the same number for the second run as the first. A third run is possible but not guaranteed so I would want some clarification which run your car will likely be from.
Otherwise I would want some written confirmation about a guaranteed build slot.......a 64 plater without nav is around £100k trade so if the gen 2 isn't forthcoming you could be looking at least a £30k plus hit to get into something else.
Also bear in mind it could be some time yet before 2018 allocations are known but most OPCs expect the same number for the second run as the first. A third run is possible but not guaranteed so I would want some clarification which run your car will likely be from.
Nothing is guaranteed, so personally I would only do the deal if you want the car offered to you right now. A 991.2 GT3 would be a bonus if you get one.
It sounds to me like an incredibly shady way to get a sale and that the 991.2 may not materialise. What if someone else comes along and spends larger than you to trump you to an allocation?
It sounds to me like an incredibly shady way to get a sale and that the 991.2 may not materialise. What if someone else comes along and spends larger than you to trump you to an allocation?
Unless they're willing to promise you, in writing, a slot in their allocation, then what they're telling you has exactly zero value. You won't get anything in writing either (not anything binding and/or without a million caveats).
It's easy for them to promise something like that, and easier still to turn round to you when the time comes and say that "we didn't get as many cars this time as we thought" or some other excuse.
As said above, somewhat shady really - how many others have they sold this dream to?
It's easy for them to promise something like that, and easier still to turn round to you when the time comes and say that "we didn't get as many cars this time as we thought" or some other excuse.
As said above, somewhat shady really - how many others have they sold this dream to?
Twinfan, what are the get out clauses? Are you talking about something specific? If a company provides a signed order form for the delivery of services, they are contractually bound to deliver them. When I ordered my Spyder, they didn't give me an allocation date, just that I would get one of their allocation.
Edited by 2010spy on Sunday 11th June 19:32
Twinfan, what are the get out clauses? Are you talking about something specific? If a company provides a signed order form for the delivery of services, they are contractually bound to deliver them. When I ordered my Spyder, they didn't give me an allocation date, just that I would get one of their allocation.
Edited by 2010spy on Sunday 11th June 19:49
2010spy said:
Twinfan, what are the get out clauses? Are you talking about something specific? If a company provides a signed order form for the delivery of services, they are contractually bound to deliver them.
It's been discussed on here in threads, I don't have personal experience. Is your order form counter signed by the OPC? That was one thing mentioned. Otherwise, they can just say they didn't get as many cars as they were expecting so you don't have an allocation. If they did that, how could you prove otherwise or force them to get you a car?Twinfan, yes that's what I'm advising the OP to get. A counter signed Order Firm from the OPC, for the GT3, preferably signed by the Dealer Principal. They won't sign this unless they are sure they can get you a car, especially if they are a Porsche owned OPC. They can take deposits all day long, but unless I'm told otherwise, they don't give counter signed New Vehicle Order Forms unless they can be sure if you getting a car, based on what they know about their allocations.
Edited by 2010spy on Sunday 11th June 19:56
That's the best you can do, but I would still say its no guarantee - you'd have to check the small print.
If your car falls off a transporter pre-delivery and is written off there has to be a way for Porsche to get out of a supply commitment as they may not be able to get another car.
If your car falls off a transporter pre-delivery and is written off there has to be a way for Porsche to get out of a supply commitment as they may not be able to get another car.
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