Michelin PS4 S
Discussion
Has anyone else switched to the latest and greatest from our Gallic friends?
Car is a 997.1 GT3.
I had some 70 percent worn, 5 year old Pilot Sport 2 on the front axle, and some much newer ones on the rear (But still the old PS2 model of maybe 10 years+ ago). The car's balance was disappointingly understeery unless assertively trail-braked to apex - awaits the usual 'thats how you have to drive one of these' comments... I know. But on the same road, on the same day, my buddy's identical Pirelli PZero shod car had far greater resistance to washout without covering the middle pedal.
Thus, I've just had the fronts changed to the new PS4S, they feel immediately softer sidewalled, more civilised if you will. Too early to say if there will be more outright grip (I'm sure there will be), but I really miss the hyperactive go-kart initial turn-in of the old PS2's. I would never have imagined such a difference, and if anything, would expect more response from the vastly more modern tyre.
The front end, despite previously lacking outright grip, was almost telepathic.
Any others have any feedback?
Car is a 997.1 GT3.
I had some 70 percent worn, 5 year old Pilot Sport 2 on the front axle, and some much newer ones on the rear (But still the old PS2 model of maybe 10 years+ ago). The car's balance was disappointingly understeery unless assertively trail-braked to apex - awaits the usual 'thats how you have to drive one of these' comments... I know. But on the same road, on the same day, my buddy's identical Pirelli PZero shod car had far greater resistance to washout without covering the middle pedal.
Thus, I've just had the fronts changed to the new PS4S, they feel immediately softer sidewalled, more civilised if you will. Too early to say if there will be more outright grip (I'm sure there will be), but I really miss the hyperactive go-kart initial turn-in of the old PS2's. I would never have imagined such a difference, and if anything, would expect more response from the vastly more modern tyre.
The front end, despite previously lacking outright grip, was almost telepathic.
Any others have any feedback?
Just replaced front and rears from P zero rossos. The difference is positively night and day. Better overall grip, better feel, better turn in. Road noise about the same. Early days so will be interesting to see how they last. I was going to go PS2 but at the time couldn't source the rears in the size I needed so took a punt. No regrets.
Just replaced front and rears from P zero rossos. The difference is positively night and day. Better overall grip, better feel, better turn in. Road noise about the same. Early days so will be interesting to see how they last. I was going to go PS2 but at the time couldn't source the rears in the size I needed so took a punt. No regrets.
Instead of opening a new thread, I will hijack this one.
I have just changed the 19" Sport Design summers on my 997.1 C2 for some 18" winter rubber (Carrera III with ContiWinterContact T810S).
The (massive) 295/30 PS2 rear tyres are well worn down, so I will be needing fresh rubber next spring.
I'm pretty set on the new Michelin PilotSport 4S, but I was wondering whether it is wise to leave the fronts wrapped in good old PS2?
They are pretty new (late 2015 IIRC) with plenty of thread left. It would be a shame to throw them away and I'm not the kind of guy can be arsed with selling worn tyres on the internet.
On the other hand it seems stupid to go and buy the old PS2 for the rears in 2018.
So do i just swap the rears for some PS4 S, or do I get matching front ones as well?
Car has no warranties, so it's no concern that they are not "N" rated (yet?) to me. Also the car will probably only be used on the road. No plans to take it to a track (yet!).
I have just changed the 19" Sport Design summers on my 997.1 C2 for some 18" winter rubber (Carrera III with ContiWinterContact T810S).
The (massive) 295/30 PS2 rear tyres are well worn down, so I will be needing fresh rubber next spring.
I'm pretty set on the new Michelin PilotSport 4S, but I was wondering whether it is wise to leave the fronts wrapped in good old PS2?
They are pretty new (late 2015 IIRC) with plenty of thread left. It would be a shame to throw them away and I'm not the kind of guy can be arsed with selling worn tyres on the internet.
On the other hand it seems stupid to go and buy the old PS2 for the rears in 2018.
So do i just swap the rears for some PS4 S, or do I get matching front ones as well?
Car has no warranties, so it's no concern that they are not "N" rated (yet?) to me. Also the car will probably only be used on the road. No plans to take it to a track (yet!).
I would have loved to try these, but Camskill (and they checked with Michelin) actually advised against these for Panamera Turbo.
They say sidewalls too soft, so go for Supersports (N-rated) for that car.
Real shame and I am surprised that something with kevlar construction is advised against.
They'll probably be N-rated in Panamera sizes tomorrow :-)
They say sidewalls too soft, so go for Supersports (N-rated) for that car.
Real shame and I am surprised that something with kevlar construction is advised against.
They'll probably be N-rated in Panamera sizes tomorrow :-)
Filibuster said:
Instead of opening a new thread, I will hijack this one.
I have just changed the 19" Sport Design summers on my 997.1 C2 for some 18" winter rubber (Carrera III with ContiWinterContact T810S).
The (massive) 295/30 PS2 rear tyres are well worn down, so I will be needing fresh rubber next spring.
I'm pretty set on the new Michelin PilotSport 4S, but I was wondering whether it is wise to leave the fronts wrapped in good old PS2?
They are pretty new (late 2015 IIRC) with plenty of thread left. It would be a shame to throw them away and I'm not the kind of guy can be arsed with selling worn tyres on the internet.
On the other hand it seems stupid to go and buy the old PS2 for the rears in 2018.
So do i just swap the rears for some PS4 S, or do I get matching front ones as well?
Car has no warranties, so it's no concern that they are not "N" rated (yet?) to me. Also the car will probably only be used on the road. No plans to take it to a track (yet!).
much better to have the same tyres on both axlesI have just changed the 19" Sport Design summers on my 997.1 C2 for some 18" winter rubber (Carrera III with ContiWinterContact T810S).
The (massive) 295/30 PS2 rear tyres are well worn down, so I will be needing fresh rubber next spring.
I'm pretty set on the new Michelin PilotSport 4S, but I was wondering whether it is wise to leave the fronts wrapped in good old PS2?
They are pretty new (late 2015 IIRC) with plenty of thread left. It would be a shame to throw them away and I'm not the kind of guy can be arsed with selling worn tyres on the internet.
On the other hand it seems stupid to go and buy the old PS2 for the rears in 2018.
So do i just swap the rears for some PS4 S, or do I get matching front ones as well?
Car has no warranties, so it's no concern that they are not "N" rated (yet?) to me. Also the car will probably only be used on the road. No plans to take it to a track (yet!).
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