997.1 Purchase
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philnotts

Original Poster:

706 posts

228 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Hello,

About to pull the trigger on a 997.1 Carrera C4S 55 plate which has done 40k miles.

The question is that i cannot make my mind up if its worth changing the IMS bearing now and also to fit low temp thermostat to the car?

I will be having a PPI, including bore scope just before purchase.

Thank you,

Phil

c4sman

834 posts

182 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Spend the money and do the work and drive your new toy with peace of mind. If you don't, although it will be probably be fine you will end up either not fully enjoying the car due to worry or potentially selling it prematurely as you will be thinking about it too much. If you were not a PHer and didn't read these forums, then ignorance may well be bliss, but we both know that isn't really the case for you as you've asked the question!

anonymous-user

82 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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IMS was upgraded for 2006 spec cars. I would upgrade yours now if earlier one.

Filibuster

3,398 posts

243 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Do have a look at your engine number and check with this chart



If you've got the later, bigger bearing built in cars after feb/mar 2005, you're all good. In fact you can't change the IMS without opening the engine.

ETA
Regarding the low thermostat, the opinions seem to differ. There is a powerful lobby who highly advocate for it and then there are others who advocate against it.
I have left the original thermostat, as Porsche has conceived it, in place. I don't, and can't due to knowing it better, advice for either practice tough.

Oh, and get that C4S bought biggrin
And due post pictures!!

Edited by Filibuster on Friday 8th September 14:53

philnotts

Original Poster:

706 posts

228 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Thank you very much for the replies.

Sorry to ask, but where is the engine number? I do know that in the middle of the vin number it is Z6S i believe if that is any help?!

Thanks,

Phil

kev.RS

215 posts

235 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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I presume/hope you have had a borescope test done to check for bore scoring?

philnotts

Original Poster:

706 posts

228 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Yes, bore is included with the PPI.

Thanks,

Phil

kev.RS

215 posts

235 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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philnotts said:
Yes, bore is included with the PPI.

Thanks,

Phil
Sorry Phil you did say about the bore test at the start.

I would get the uprgraded ims bearing done and a nice new clutch at the same time meaning you will feel some kind off betterment and will help with value later.

Copied thread from Hartech ( the most trusted Porsche engine builders out there) regarding low temp thermostat

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=89494

What kind of warranty is it going forward?
Does it cover bore scoring and does it have a decent claim limit £7.5k - £10k ideally?

So

28,176 posts

250 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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philnotts said:
Hello,

About to pull the trigger on a 997.1 Carrera C4S 55 plate which has done 40k miles.

The question is that i cannot make my mind up if its worth changing the IMS bearing now and also to fit low temp thermostat to the car?

I will be having a PPI, including bore scope just before purchase.

Thank you,

Phil
Is it eligible for Porsche warranty? If so I'd do nothing and warranty it.


philnotts

Original Poster:

706 posts

228 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Sadly no warranty with the car and being 2005 i think its too old for OPC warranty.

Where would i find the engine number to check against the chart above?

Thanks,

Phil

kev.RS

215 posts

235 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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It will be on the spec sticker in the service book if it is the original.
Example from google



Is the car advertised or someone you know and assume it is a private sale?

Just be wary that some aftermarket warranties won't cover cars over 12 years old.

Personally I would only buy from a Porsche specialist that are experts in the product and have warranties that cover things like bore scoring and ims failures.
Some will allow you to get a decent claim limit so will cover the cost of a rebuild.

Filibuster

3,398 posts

243 months

Saturday 9th September 2017
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No, the engine number is not on that sticker. It is on the engine itself.
Have a look at the oil sump on the left side (passenger side on RHD).


Pic from google. It may not be as clearly is this. Take a wet towel, some WD40 or brake cleaner if necessary. Best to take a photograph and try to read it from the screen.

Some more info re the engine number:


Edited by Filibuster on Saturday 9th September 10:32