996 fire extinguisher brackets etc
996 fire extinguisher brackets etc
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Dammit

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3,815 posts

236 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Having seen Escy's Boxster project burn itself to the axles I've been thinking about fitting a fire extinguisher - very much a "hope to never, ever need it" type thing, but after some thought I'm in the "better to have and not need, than need and not have" on this.

My understanding is that Porsche made the M509 kit for this, which looks like this:



But I'm unsure of these parts are still available (I have asked Hatfield OPC this question and am awaiting a reply).

Question is, is this the best method of securing an extinguisher in the car, in easy reach? What have others done?

Dammit

Original Poster:

3,815 posts

236 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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All the brackets are available, for £110 from your OPC.

The Porsche OEM extinguisher is NLA from Porsche, but it's simply the Gloria P1DB 1kg powder extinguisher, so you can buy that from any German site for ~€30, or the UK equivalent the Kidde KSP1GM, depending on how serious you are about having it look "proper".

As the Gloria literally is the Porsche OEM one I got that, because I am clearly beyond help.

Therefore you can get the whole lot, brand new, for ~£150, which compares well to the second hand setup currently on eBay for £495.

Dammit

Original Poster:

3,815 posts

236 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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These are the parts:

999 141 028 02 x 3 = screws to mount metal bracket to seat frame
996 521 674 00 (LHD) or 996 521 673 00 (RHD) x 1 = metal mounting bracket
900 067 137 02 x 2 screws to mount extinguisher cradle to metal bracket
900 151 027 02 x 2 washers for the above screws
996 521 607 00 x 1 Plastic red cradle to hold extinguisher

carrottop

7,251 posts

261 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Dammit said:
These are the parts:

999 141 028 02 x 3 = screws to mount metal bracket to seat frame
996 521 674 00 (LHD) or 996 521 673 00 (RHD) x 1 = metal mounting bracket
900 067 137 02 x 2 screws to mount extinguisher cradle to metal bracket
900 151 027 02 x 2 washers for the above screws
996 521 607 00 x 1 Plastic red cradle to hold extinguisher
Thank you for posting (been looking at doing this too) thumbup

anonymous-user

82 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Good find.

M32GER

367 posts

147 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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I use the Rennline mount available on desing911. Very nice quality and looks great

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

224 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Has anyone ever used one of these tiny things to ever extinguish a vehicle fire?

Dammit

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3,815 posts

236 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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Not me, I've never actually used a fire extinguisher for the purpose intended.

My thinking is that unless someone has filled it with petrol it's unlikely to do any harm having one, and it might do some good.

Magic919

14,409 posts

229 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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If you catch a liquid fire early, you just might stop it. Wiring is another matter. I have one, factory fit, in a 997 and wouldn't leave it at home.

NBTBRV8

2,066 posts

236 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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I retrofitted it, here is my post. the photos are now gone as a result of Photobucket's new policy:

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turbo-forum/698754...


Yes I have had a car fire before when I needed an extinguisher. In an MG RV8 I had a relay short out in the fuse box and the loom caught alight and melted. I was dead lucky that it happened as I was pulling in to work and I used one of theirs, just 5 minutes before hand and it would have gone up in smoke.

What was scary about it, is that it was a dead short and didn't really stop until I disconnected the battery, the extinguisher just slowed down the flame, it kept on reigniting.

Dammit

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3,815 posts

236 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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I suspect I pinched the parts numbers from your Pistonheads post- it's the same text as that Rennlist post, thanks for that info.

Interesting that someone else posts that it's the 1.3kg Gloria unit that fits the cradle, I went by photographs of the (said to be) OEM one which were 1kg. I have one turning up in the next few days so can see for myself.

If you fire over the pics I'll re-host and re-post them for you?

toobusy

104 posts

180 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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I find this interesting as my 996 has a plastic "cover" under the front of the drivers seat but doesn't have one on the passenger seat. I wonder if this is left off for the extinguisher or whether a cover has just fallen off! I keep meaning to investigate but after 6 years....

poppopbangbang

2,577 posts

169 months

Sunday 17th September 2017
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Has anyone ever used one of these tiny things to ever extinguish a vehicle fire?
They might calm one down for a few seconds but that's about it. All the 1KG ones are too small to be of any use on anything that has a bit of a root to it.

My car has a plumbed in system:


Mounted in a similar way to the Porsche hand held but it has two nozzles in the engine bay and two over the tanks so whichever end goes up will get decently doused. It's a 3.375L AFFF bottle which is a better bet than powder in most circumstances for hydrocarbon fires as it provides some wetting. As the fuel tank nozzles are at the highest point over the tanks and the engine bay ones are in each rear corner of the bay pointing forwards towards the fuel rails and manifolds it should help if the worst ever happens.

NBTBRV8

2,066 posts

236 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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Dammit said:
I suspect I pinched the parts numbers from your Pistonheads post- it's the same text as that Rennlist post, thanks for that info.

Interesting that someone else posts that it's the 1.3kg Gloria unit that fits the cradle, I went by photographs of the (said to be) OEM one which were 1kg. I have one turning up in the next few days so can see for myself.

If you fire over the pics I'll re-host and re-post them for you?
I can probably dig them out and email them to you if you want.

Dammit

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Sunday 1st October 2017
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Sure, keen to see how you did it - my parts are still on their way from Germany.

NBTBRV8

2,066 posts

236 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Dammit said:
Sure, keen to see how you did it - my parts are still on their way from Germany.
I didn't take any photos of the actual retrofit, only the final fitted product.

Dammit

Original Poster:

3,815 posts

236 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Dammit said:
I suspect I pinched the parts numbers from your Pistonheads post- it's the same text as that Rennlist post, thanks for that info.

Interesting that someone else posts that it's the 1.3kg Gloria unit that fits the cradle, I went by photographs of the (said to be) OEM one which were 1kg. I have one turning up in the next few days so can see for myself.

If you fire over the pics I'll re-host and re-post them for you?
The cradle finally turned up and - you guessed it - the 996 OEM cradle is designed for the NLA 1.3kg extinguisher, it looks like it's the 997 cradle that fits the 1kg extinguishers which are still current.