GT3 RS video across 3 generations

[braddo]

I found this video interesting, comparing the 996 RS with the two 997 RS (not the 4.0L) at a soaking Silverstone.

A few little beard points that might not be 100% but maybe the PH pedantry can have a rest. Obviously subjective but some interesting insight and not quite the outcomes one might expect. It's a tad long so grab a drink before sitting down to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSh5XEBf83E

[SRT Hellcat]

many thanks for posting

[anonymous-user]

Enjoyed that nice one

[Steve Rance]

Ice. IMHOThe 996 GT3 remains a bargain when compared to other GT3’s. The 96RS’s are now the domain of beardy man but for half the money your can buy something that is 90% of an RS and a few grand will probably build something better than a stock RS.

Crazy that what is probably the best drivers 911 for a generation is still overlooked. Go out and buy one now while you can..

[LaSource]

Steve Rance said:

Ice. IMHOThe 996 GT3 remains a bargain when compared to other GT3’s. The 96RS’s are now the domain of beardy man but for half the money your can buy something that is 90% of an RS and a few grand will probably build something better than a stock RS.

Crazy that what is probably the best drivers 911 for a generation is still overlooked. Go out and buy one now while you can..

^^ this. sage advice.

996RS is great for collecting - of course great for driving too. However the 996 GT3 Clubsport with some choice mods will be a much better track/road car than a standard 996RS. Of course the RS could also be similarly modified to be even better but the margins are small and you are eating into the 2x premium of an unmodified RS.

[Cheib]

That was an interesting watch, thanks for posting. Never really heard that opinion of the 997.1 RS vs the 997.2 RS....certainly the .2 is much more sort after.

[TDT]

LaSource said:

Steve Rance said:

Ice. IMHOThe 996 GT3 remains a bargain when compared to other GT3’s. The 96RS’s are now the domain of beardy man but for half the money your can buy something that is 90% of an RS and a few grand will probably build something better than a stock RS.

Crazy that what is probably the best drivers 911 for a generation is still overlooked. Go out and buy one now while you can..

^^ this. sage advice.

996RS is great for collecting - of course great for driving too. However the 996 GT3 Clubsport with some choice mods will be a much better track/road car than a standard 996RS. Of course the RS could also be similarly modified to be even better but the margins are small and you are eating into the 2x premium of an unmodified RS.

Have to say, these have always appealed to me. It's the purity... none of the crazy addenda - just purpose.

[Steve Rance]

Im my experience, there is a relatively small incrimental improvement in some areas from the 997.1 to the 997.2RS. Slightly more torque and a more sophiticated PASM set up. The GT3 has always been a journey of accessibility for the porsche engineers. The 996 GT3 needed a classic 911 driving style and the car gave you the tools to achieve that with a magnigicent chassis and propper diff/diff set up. The 997 was the begining of the 'all things to all drivers' GT3's. The Electrical systems were set up to help a driver settle and rotate the car (particularly through the ABD systems) pretty much remotely. The price was a lesser degree of involvement and a big bill to replace rear brake pads! The 997.2 went another level by increasing the front track in a further attempt to help counter the natural tendancy of the car to understeer and make the car even easier to rotate. The 991 took things to a whole new level with a sphisitcated active diff, RWS and a longer wheel base to make the car more mid engined in it's rotational charateristics.

There is very little difference in terms of engineering between the 997.1GT3 Clubbie and the 997.1RS and one could argue that the 997.1RS is a purer driving experience than the 997.2RS. Bearing that in mind and looking at how that market values these cars, if one is looking at buying a car for pure driving engagement and reward the best value cars - by an absolute mile are the 996GT3 (any version) followed by a vanilla 997GT3. To those worried about resales a Clubbie will be a better bet - but you will pay more for it so its swings and roundabouts.

It's ok covetting the halo versions of these cars - 997. 4.0 or 996.RS but in reality, the real driving bargains lay in the more mundaine and much more accessible models.

[Porsche911R]

Steve Rance said:

Im my experience, there is a relatively small incrimental improvement in some areas from the 997.1 to the 997.2RS. Slightly more torque and a more sophiticated PASM set up. The GT3 has always been a journey of accessibility for the porsche engineers. The 996 GT3 needed a classic 911 driving style and the car gave you the tools to achieve that with a magnigicent chassis and propper diff/diff set up. The 997 was the begining of the 'all things to all drivers' GT3's. The Electrical systems were set up to help a driver settle and rotate the car (particularly through the ABD systems) pretty much remotely. The price was a lesser degree of involvement and a big bill to replace rear brake pads! The 997.2 went another level by increasing the front track in a further attempt to help counter the natural tendancy of the car to understeer and make the car even easier to rotate. The 991 took things to a whole new level with a sphisitcated active diff, RWS and a longer wheel base to make the car more mid engined in it's rotational charateristics.

There is very little difference in terms of engineering between the 997.1GT3 Clubbie and the 997.1RS and one could argue that the 997.1RS is a purer driving experience than the 997.2RS. Bearing that in mind and looking at how that market values these cars, if one is looking at buying a car for pure driving engagement and reward the best value cars - by an absolute mile are the 996GT3 (any version) followed by a vanilla 997GT3. To those worried about resales a Clubbie will be a better bet - but you will pay more for it so its swings and roundabouts.

It's ok covetting the halo versions of these cars - 997. 4.0 or 996.RS but in reality, the real driving bargains lay in the more mundaine and much more accessible models.

very true I was close to buying my 996 GT3 back (all be it with adding nice shocks and short final drive) but it seems to have sold !

I still think for me a 997.2 GTS with a trick set of shocks and buckets would suit me better and 1/2 the price of a 997 GT car.

[TDT]

Steve Rance said:

It's ok covetting the halo versions of these cars - 997. 4.0 or 996.RS but in reality, the real driving bargains lay in the more mundaine and much more accessible models.

Porsche hallmark.