know this black gen1 gt3?

know this black gen1 gt3?

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RC1

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4,110 posts

221 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Anyone know this black on black gt3 at Simons?

https://www.simonsofshropshire.co.uk/search_page.p...


Kettmark

904 posts

155 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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I made enquiries on it way back last summer. He's selling it for an acquaintance from what I can gather.
Looks to be a nice example.

GT4RS

4,484 posts

199 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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That’s been up for ages, drivers seat looks ruff as!

RC1

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4,110 posts

221 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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spoke to them earlier... its been with them for ages but on the face of it not bad. ive got the reg no and first time passes in all mots and it would pass a 111 point inspection save for tyres. original panels and paint. does have a ignitions in some ranges very early on in its life but not 5 and 6 so looking at the warranty procedure it should be fine save for a compression test maybe

contrary to ad it doesnt have adaptive sport seats though

LaSource

2,623 posts

210 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Lusso Prestige have a lovely lovely low mileage clubsport. I know the car and have driven it before (it is not mine though). Granted it is in a different price bracket but a better setup 997 I have not driven.

It is sort of fashionable among us 996 obsessives to poo poo the later cars but I must admit after driving this car it made me do a double take. Was an eye opener.

https://www.lussoprestige.com/stock/porsche-997-gt...

ttdan

1,091 posts

195 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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20k delta between those two? And the pricey one doesn’t even have Nav laugh

RC1

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Wednesday 9th January 2019
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wrong colour for me and i know of a couple of white CS cars that are potentially for sale privately for a lower figure.. not sure if they have ceramics though.

RC1

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Wednesday 9th January 2019
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ttdan said:
20k delta between those two? And the pricey one doesn’t even have Nav laugh
id say 15-20k seems the norm delta for cs over comfort? jzm sold their guards red cs for at least 82 and opc wilmslow for about 91 albeit in green (not viper)

camerons in cobalt is a bit toppy at 89 though

ttdan

1,091 posts

195 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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RC1 said:
ttdan said:
20k delta between those two? And the pricey one doesn’t even have Nav laugh
id say 15-20k seems the norm delta for cs over comfort? jzm sold their guards red cs for at least 82 and opc wilmslow for about 91 albeit in green (not viper)

camerons in cobalt is a bit toppy at 89 though
That may be factual but there’s nothing normal about it. Make sure to have anything you look at inspected, thoroughly. Especially blue ones.

Cunno

511 posts

159 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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ttdan said:
RC1 said:
ttdan said:
20k delta between those two? And the pricey one doesn’t even have Nav laugh
id say 15-20k seems the norm delta for cs over comfort? jzm sold their guards red cs for at least 82 and opc wilmslow for about 91 albeit in green (not viper)

camerons in cobalt is a bit toppy at 89 though
That may be factual but there’s nothing normal about it. Make sure to have anything you look at inspected, thoroughly. Especially blue ones.
That made me smile

Juno

4,481 posts

251 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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LaSource said:
Lusso Prestige have a lovely lovely low mileage clubsport. I know the car and have driven it before (it is not mine though). Granted it is in a different price bracket but a better setup 997 I have not driven.

It is sort of fashionable among us 996 obsessives to poo poo the later cars but I must admit after driving this car it made me do a double take. Was an eye opener.

https://www.lussoprestige.com/stock/porsche-997-gt...
For 5k more you can get a .2

https://www.gravelwood.co.uk/used/cars/porsche/911...

Slippydiff

14,948 posts

225 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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RC1 said:
wrong colour for me and i know of a couple of white CS cars that are potentially for sale privately for a lower figure.. not sure if they have ceramics though.
Lusso car doesn’t have ceramics.

ttdan

1,091 posts

195 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Slippydiff said:
RC1 said:
wrong colour for me and i know of a couple of white CS cars that are potentially for sale privately for a lower figure.. not sure if they have ceramics though.
Lusso car doesn’t have ceramics.
Coz it’s not on its standard brakes. Ceramics are an expensive liability. Certainly not worth any premium on a used gen 1 car. The lusso car is on steels, ask yourself why.

Jim1556

1,784 posts

158 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Juno said:
The helmet wear on the bucket seat makes me raise an eyebrow...

Juno

4,481 posts

251 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Jim1556 said:
Juno said:
The helmet wear on the bucket seat makes me raise an eyebrow...
I did see that and thought it was poor cleaning,you could well be right and it might be paint from a helmet.Mind you I think you will do very well to find a 996/997 GT car that has not had a fair track life,it was the era for this!

Jim1556

1,784 posts

158 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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True, it wouldn't put me off if my portfolio exploded, provided it passed a ppi. But how to get it refurbed?

LaSource

2,623 posts

210 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Juno said:
LaSource said:
Lusso Prestige have a lovely lovely low mileage clubsport. I know the car and have driven it before (it is not mine though). Granted it is in a different price bracket but a better setup 997 I have not driven.

It is sort of fashionable among us 996 obsessives to poo poo the later cars but I must admit after driving this car it made me do a double take. Was an eye opener.

https://www.lussoprestige.com/stock/porsche-997-gt...
For 5k more you can get a .2

https://www.gravelwood.co.uk/used/cars/porsche/911...
I'm not here to discuss/defend any particular car or price point (buyers can decide what is value for them).

We should compare apple and apples. I posted a clubsport 997.1 with track orientated spec (roll cage, brakes etc) which sell at a premium and the second car is a comfort 997.2 with no cage etc which is typically are higher supply and lower demand.

I personally (as a clubsport aficionado) wouldn't be interested in the second car even if it was same price! However I get that for others the 997.2 comfort would be more interesting. However I do not expect these people to be interested in a higher priced 997.1 clubsport either but compare it to a lower priced 997.1 comfort.

Edited by LaSource on Thursday 10th January 10:32

Slippydiff

14,948 posts

225 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Slippydiff said:
car doesn’t have ceramics.
ttdan said:
It’s not on its standard brakes.
I know, that's why I said it doesn't have ceramics... smile

ttdan said:
Ceramics are an expensive liability. Certainly not worth any premium on a used gen 1 car
The OP hasn't stated what his intended usage will be, if he wants the car primarily as a road car, I'd respectfully suggest that PCCBs aren't an "expensive liablity", on the contrary, they're a worthwhile addition to any GT3/2/RS.

ttdan said:
The lusso car is on steels, ask yourself why.
I've no need to ask myself anything (other than why your response to my brief post was so overly aggressive in its tone)

wink

ttdan

1,091 posts

195 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Slippydiff said:
Slippydiff said:
car doesn’t have ceramics.
ttdan said:
It’s not on its standard brakes.
I know, that's why I said it doesn't have ceramics... smile

ttdan said:
Ceramics are an expensive liability. Certainly not worth any premium on a used gen 1 car
The OP hasn't stated what his intended usage will be, if he wants the car primarily as a road car, I'd respectfully suggest that PCCBs aren't an "expensive liablity", on the contrary, they're a worthwhile addition to any GT3/2/RS.

ttdan said:
The lusso car is on steels, ask yourself why.
I've no need to ask myself anything (other than why your response to my brief post was so overly aggressive in its tone)

wink
I want actually asking “you” why or responding directly to yourself there Mr Diff. It was a rhetorical question to anyone who may be reading the thread but primarily the OP. I can have an opinion too I hope.

wink

RC1

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221 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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thanks for the thoughts...

will be doing fewer than 1k miles per year, will be a third car and may see a track sometimes

primarily blatting around