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I realise it's probably a sin, I'm not here to ask forgiveness but am fairly serious about selling my 991.2 Carrera for a Tesla Model 3. Totally different cars I know. Just wondered if anyone else here has a Tesla and has any thoughts of how it compares to their Porsche.
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There is a guy in my street that has a Tesla 3 (he used to have a L322 FFRR 5.0 S/C). I see it everyday and wonder when and where he charges it, because it parks on the street.
I have to admit I'm a huge fan, especially because of the interior! For me this is the single biggest step in interior design since the Citroen DS came out in '53.
I would love to have one and would be very, very tempted to have one instead of my F56 Cooper S. As an alternative to the 911?? Absolutely not! Only a madman would consider this, but I think you knew that
I have to admit I'm a huge fan, especially because of the interior! For me this is the single biggest step in interior design since the Citroen DS came out in '53.
I would love to have one and would be very, very tempted to have one instead of my F56 Cooper S. As an alternative to the 911?? Absolutely not! Only a madman would consider this, but I think you knew that
Driving a Tesla Roadster 4 years ago with a view to buy was what prompted me to buy my
first 911 Turbo.
The Tesla was brilliant but i had an epiphany that evening, and realised sooner or later
we will all be driving electric cars and embracing the torque so i decided to make sure
i had as much fun with combustion engines as possible until that time.
I am now on my second 911, a 997 Turbo S.
first 911 Turbo.
The Tesla was brilliant but i had an epiphany that evening, and realised sooner or later
we will all be driving electric cars and embracing the torque so i decided to make sure
i had as much fun with combustion engines as possible until that time.
I am now on my second 911, a 997 Turbo S.
Carlson W6 said:
Driving a Tesla Roadster 4 years ago with a view to buy was what prompted me to buy my
first 911 Turbo.
I had an epiphany that evening, and realised sooner or later
we will all be driving electric cars and embracing the torque so i decided to make sure
I had as much fun with combustion engines as possible until that time.
I am now on my second 911, a 997 Turbo S.
^ This man speaketh much sense. Enjoy IC engines for as long as you can. Besides, battery tech has a long way to go before it will remotely resemble consideration. The biggest issue though, is just how boring they are compared to anything 911 flavoured. first 911 Turbo.
I had an epiphany that evening, and realised sooner or later
we will all be driving electric cars and embracing the torque so i decided to make sure
I had as much fun with combustion engines as possible until that time.
I am now on my second 911, a 997 Turbo S.
We all make the choices we want.
Personally am old enough to want to stick with IC. I have driven pretty much all of the EVs and appreciate their value but grew up with the mechanical world.
Will hang on to my Porsches , and maybe at some stage will get some kind of EV. Not yet,though.
Personally am old enough to want to stick with IC. I have driven pretty much all of the EVs and appreciate their value but grew up with the mechanical world.
Will hang on to my Porsches , and maybe at some stage will get some kind of EV. Not yet,though.
Why don't you hire one for a week and see what it is like to live with day to day, we look forward to reading the review.
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From the reviews I have read, a Tesla has some unique handling characteristics when pushing on that a 911 does not have.
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From the reviews I have read, a Tesla has some unique handling characteristics when pushing on that a 911 does not have.
Granted lots has happened since 2015 but isn't the Tesla Roadster due this year? That would be comparable to a 911 in looks, practicality.
If Model 3 peaks interest then would also be taking a look at the new Audi E-Tron. Wired's review was very complementary, especially the interior. Some of the new tech like virtual wing mirrors looks very cool.
If Model 3 peaks interest then would also be taking a look at the new Audi E-Tron. Wired's review was very complementary, especially the interior. Some of the new tech like virtual wing mirrors looks very cool.
gottans said:
Why don't you hire one for a week and see what it is like to live with day to day, we look forward to reading the review.
No affiliation https://www.evrent.co.uk/tesla_home/
From the reviews I have read, a Tesla has some unique handling characteristics when pushing on that a 911 does not have.
Smart idea...No affiliation https://www.evrent.co.uk/tesla_home/
From the reviews I have read, a Tesla has some unique handling characteristics when pushing on that a 911 does not have.
I have my own experience of electric cars plus some friends' experiences of Teslas. Whilst I love electric cars and Tesla's seem ok, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they are s
te dynamically. I am not convinced there is actually an electric sports car out there. Maybe the original Tesla/Lotus roadsters were sports cars, but the rest I am not convinced about.
Tesla do not make sports cars, Porsche do. If you want a sports car...
Bert
te dynamically. I am not convinced there is actually an electric sports car out there. Maybe the original Tesla/Lotus roadsters were sports cars, but the rest I am not convinced about.Tesla do not make sports cars, Porsche do. If you want a sports car...
Bert
I went from a 997 GTS to a Model S. I fancied a change and wanted to see what the latest tech was like. I know the PH massive like to slag EVs off and Tesla in particular but they are all just cars and personally I just like trying anything (even crappy hire cars).
Dynamically the Porsche is better although the Tesla was pretty good up to about 7/10. Above this or on poor roads and the suspension would get a bit choppy. Everyone moans about the lack of sound, but actually it’s just a different sound - feels more like you are going warp 5 in a spaceship. Obviously it’s not as good as the flat 6 howl.
The interior felt very modern vs the 997, and the big screen is really useful. You can adjust all your controls using thumb wheels on the steering wheel, so don’t believe people when they say the big screens are dangerous. You need to accept that the interior is built to a US spec so the actual touch and feel of the plastics etc is not as nice.
Autopilot is really useful on motorway journeys but probably not for A roads at present. The car is very quick and the lack of sound meant it was easy to find yourself going much faster than you thought. It felt as quick as the 997 due to the instant torque.
If you fancy trying an EV then it should be a Tesla as they are the only ones serious about them. All the other car companies are just messing around to bolster their green credentials so their cars just feel like a normal car with a motor and battery shoved in. Whereas a Tesla a feels more like a taste of the future. The other massive advantage is the Supercharger network which means you never need to worry about charging. Until the other manufacturers launch their own widespread networks you will always need to run the risk of having to queue for hours at motorway services. I can’t imagine anything worse than buying a new Taycan and then finding myself stuck tor an hour waiting for 2 Nissan Leafs to finish charging on a cross country run. A 20 min top up in the Tesla fits in with a regular loo break.
Hopefully the above is helpful, but remember they are all just cars and all have good and bad points. It’s great being able to chop and change and sample them all - I’ve since moved onto an Italian v8!
Dynamically the Porsche is better although the Tesla was pretty good up to about 7/10. Above this or on poor roads and the suspension would get a bit choppy. Everyone moans about the lack of sound, but actually it’s just a different sound - feels more like you are going warp 5 in a spaceship. Obviously it’s not as good as the flat 6 howl.
The interior felt very modern vs the 997, and the big screen is really useful. You can adjust all your controls using thumb wheels on the steering wheel, so don’t believe people when they say the big screens are dangerous. You need to accept that the interior is built to a US spec so the actual touch and feel of the plastics etc is not as nice.
Autopilot is really useful on motorway journeys but probably not for A roads at present. The car is very quick and the lack of sound meant it was easy to find yourself going much faster than you thought. It felt as quick as the 997 due to the instant torque.
If you fancy trying an EV then it should be a Tesla as they are the only ones serious about them. All the other car companies are just messing around to bolster their green credentials so their cars just feel like a normal car with a motor and battery shoved in. Whereas a Tesla a feels more like a taste of the future. The other massive advantage is the Supercharger network which means you never need to worry about charging. Until the other manufacturers launch their own widespread networks you will always need to run the risk of having to queue for hours at motorway services. I can’t imagine anything worse than buying a new Taycan and then finding myself stuck tor an hour waiting for 2 Nissan Leafs to finish charging on a cross country run. A 20 min top up in the Tesla fits in with a regular loo break.
Hopefully the above is helpful, but remember they are all just cars and all have good and bad points. It’s great being able to chop and change and sample them all - I’ve since moved onto an Italian v8!
milesy4 said:
I went from a 997 GTS to a Model S. I fancied a change and wanted to see what the latest tech was like. I know the PH massive like to slag EVs off and Tesla in particular but they are all just cars and personally I just like trying anything (even crappy hire cars).
Dynamically the Porsche is better although the Tesla was pretty good up to about 7/10. Above this or on poor roads and the suspension would get a bit choppy. Everyone moans about the lack of sound, but actually it’s just a different sound - feels more like you are going warp 5 in a spaceship. Obviously it’s not as good as the flat 6 howl.
The interior felt very modern vs the 997, and the big screen is really useful. You can adjust all your controls using thumb wheels on the steering wheel, so don’t believe people when they say the big screens are dangerous. You need to accept that the interior is built to a US spec so the actual touch and feel of the plastics etc is not as nice.
Autopilot is really useful on motorway journeys but probably not for A roads at present. The car is very quick and the lack of sound meant it was easy to find yourself going much faster than you thought. It felt as quick as the 997 due to the instant torque.
If you fancy trying an EV then it should be a Tesla as they are the only ones serious about them. All the other car companies are just messing around to bolster their green credentials so their cars just feel like a normal car with a motor and battery shoved in. Whereas a Tesla a feels more like a taste of the future. The other massive advantage is the Supercharger network which means you never need to worry about charging. Until the other manufacturers launch their own widespread networks you will always need to run the risk of having to queue for hours at motorway services. I can’t imagine anything worse than buying a new Taycan and then finding myself stuck tor an hour waiting for 2 Nissan Leafs to finish charging on a cross country run. A 20 min top up in the Tesla fits in with a regular loo break.
Hopefully the above is helpful, but remember they are all just cars and all have good and bad points. It’s great being able to chop and change and sample them all - I’ve since moved onto an Italian v8!
Fantastic insight, thanks for taking so much trouble. Good food for thought and advice. What has triggered my (probable) change is I look at my 2.5 year old dream car and realise, I don't want to drive - anywhere - unless I have to, because of traffic. I use an electric skateboard a couple of miles to the shops, or walk! So I'm thinking, spend less on my next car and get something which might trigger my interest. But this is all possibly flawed. I think sometimes we have to make mistakes - even if we see them coming.Dynamically the Porsche is better although the Tesla was pretty good up to about 7/10. Above this or on poor roads and the suspension would get a bit choppy. Everyone moans about the lack of sound, but actually it’s just a different sound - feels more like you are going warp 5 in a spaceship. Obviously it’s not as good as the flat 6 howl.
The interior felt very modern vs the 997, and the big screen is really useful. You can adjust all your controls using thumb wheels on the steering wheel, so don’t believe people when they say the big screens are dangerous. You need to accept that the interior is built to a US spec so the actual touch and feel of the plastics etc is not as nice.
Autopilot is really useful on motorway journeys but probably not for A roads at present. The car is very quick and the lack of sound meant it was easy to find yourself going much faster than you thought. It felt as quick as the 997 due to the instant torque.
If you fancy trying an EV then it should be a Tesla as they are the only ones serious about them. All the other car companies are just messing around to bolster their green credentials so their cars just feel like a normal car with a motor and battery shoved in. Whereas a Tesla a feels more like a taste of the future. The other massive advantage is the Supercharger network which means you never need to worry about charging. Until the other manufacturers launch their own widespread networks you will always need to run the risk of having to queue for hours at motorway services. I can’t imagine anything worse than buying a new Taycan and then finding myself stuck tor an hour waiting for 2 Nissan Leafs to finish charging on a cross country run. A 20 min top up in the Tesla fits in with a regular loo break.
Hopefully the above is helpful, but remember they are all just cars and all have good and bad points. It’s great being able to chop and change and sample them all - I’ve since moved onto an Italian v8!
BertBert said:
I have my own experience of electric cars plus some friends' experiences of Teslas. Whilst I love electric cars and Tesla's seem ok, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they are ste dynamically. I am not convinced there is actually an electric sports car out there. Maybe the original Tesla/Lotus roadsters were sports cars, but the rest I am not convinced about.
Tesla do not make sports cars, Porsche do. If you want a sports car...
Bert
Totally get where you're coming from, mate.te dynamically. I am not convinced there is actually an electric sports car out there. Maybe the original Tesla/Lotus roadsters were sports cars, but the rest I am not convinced about.Tesla do not make sports cars, Porsche do. If you want a sports car...
Bert
milesy4 said:
If you fancy trying an EV then it should be a Tesla as they are the only ones serious about them. All the other car companies are just messing around to bolster their green credentials so their cars just feel like a normal car with a motor and battery shoved in. Whereas a Tesla a feels more like a taste of the future. The other massive advantage is the Supercharger network which means you never need to worry about charging. Until the other manufacturers launch their own widespread networks you will always need to run the risk of having to queue for hours at motorway services. I can’t imagine anything worse than buying a new Taycan and then finding myself stuck tor an hour waiting for 2 Nissan Leafs to finish charging on a cross country run. A 20 min top up in the Tesla fits in with a regular loo break.
Hopefully the above is helpful, but remember they are all just cars and all have good and bad points. It’s great being able to chop and change and sample them all - I’ve since moved onto an Italian v8!
I’ve had my name down for a Taycan for a year so hopefully will get it next year some time. I think Porsche are committing to electric cars more than other VW group companies having dropped diesel totally. Totally agree about charging/range...we need to run another bigger car though for family holidays aetc so Cayenne S Diesel will still be on the drive. Hopefully the above is helpful, but remember they are all just cars and all have good and bad points. It’s great being able to chop and change and sample them all - I’ve since moved onto an Italian v8!
The major European manufacturers are JV’ing to have a roll out of charging stations on European motorway network so not sure what will happen here. I don’t foresee having to charge the Taycan anywhere but home though. We do a lot of mileage but apart from major trips never more than 200 miles in a day.
I must admit when the concept car was revealed I was blown away by it and definitely thought about putting my name down, but as it’s gradually become diluted and turned into the Taycan I’ve become less interested. I’m sure it will be great to drive and I love that Porsche have gone for a new model EV, I just wish they had been a bit more adventurous with the styling.
I’m lucky enough to have several vehicles and I think that EVs make lots of sense for everyday use and that modern tech can definitely help reduce the tedium of motorway journeys. It helps if you can also keep or share something more exciting for those days when you just need to blow the cobwebs away, whether that’s a car or bike.
I’m lucky enough to have several vehicles and I think that EVs make lots of sense for everyday use and that modern tech can definitely help reduce the tedium of motorway journeys. It helps if you can also keep or share something more exciting for those days when you just need to blow the cobwebs away, whether that’s a car or bike.
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