Morzine via Rambouillet, route advice sought
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My girlfriend has qualified for Paris-Brest-Paris, so I'm going to drop her off there in August.
As I have less than zero interest in riding 1,200Km in one go I'm intending on driving down to Morzine, hiring a Bronson and buying a weeks lift pass.
I'll be going in the 911 as I'm hiring a bike and me Julie's bike will be in a van.
What would be a good route to enjoy the car, given that I'll be able to take corners with rather more aplomb than would be the case should I have a passenger?
As I have less than zero interest in riding 1,200Km in one go I'm intending on driving down to Morzine, hiring a Bronson and buying a weeks lift pass.
I'll be going in the 911 as I'm hiring a bike and me Julie's bike will be in a van.
What would be a good route to enjoy the car, given that I'll be able to take corners with rather more aplomb than would be the case should I have a passenger?
Well first off - well done to your girlfriend for qualifying for P-B-P a completely nuts epic event. Also Morzine and Branson is a great combo (did that 2 years ago).
In terms of driving I’d suggest a pretty quick autoroute from Paris to Dijon then some of the great roads in the Jura. Past Geneva and into the Haute-Savoie. Some good roads in this area (road up to taninges ro Les Gets is OK) but they get busy in the summer and you are best off getting up early to explore the area (hairpins to Avoriaz, Col du Joux Plane etc).
In terms of driving I’d suggest a pretty quick autoroute from Paris to Dijon then some of the great roads in the Jura. Past Geneva and into the Haute-Savoie. Some good roads in this area (road up to taninges ro Les Gets is OK) but they get busy in the summer and you are best off getting up early to explore the area (hairpins to Avoriaz, Col du Joux Plane etc).
I've got nothing but admiration for me Julie doing PBP, by which I of course mean that I have less than zero interest in riding it myself.
For me a ride should be four hours or less, and include at least one mountain and at least one slice of cake.
Hopefully Morzine will provide a ready supply of both.
Route - how about:
To Dijon on the A6, A36 past Dole, E36 to Besancon, the turn off for the E23 through Pontarlier and Vallorbe down to Lausanne then through the vineyards in Lavaux through Chexbres and the Route Corniche.
A9 to Monthey, past the Chateau du Chillon at Montreax.
Up to Chatel, Down to Abondance and La Baume, D902 to Morzine.
?
For me a ride should be four hours or less, and include at least one mountain and at least one slice of cake.
Hopefully Morzine will provide a ready supply of both.
Route - how about:
To Dijon on the A6, A36 past Dole, E36 to Besancon, the turn off for the E23 through Pontarlier and Vallorbe down to Lausanne then through the vineyards in Lavaux through Chexbres and the Route Corniche.
A9 to Monthey, past the Chateau du Chillon at Montreax.
Up to Chatel, Down to Abondance and La Baume, D902 to Morzine.
?
Edited by Dammit on Thursday 13th June 17:35
There’s a nicer route than that...keep going a bit further south on the A39. Just south of Dole there is a small town called Poligny get off the A39 there...From Poligny head directly across country to Vallorbe which is where you cross into Switzerlnd. From there take the Autoroute to Lausanne. The road to Bescancon is dull and the roads are much busier. There’s also an Inter Marche just past a place called Les Hopitaux-Neuf which is a tiny ski resort....cheap place to brim the tank just before crossing into Switzerland. Not the best fuel I am sure...
I take that route every year when I drive out to Switzerland skiing....beautiful scenery driving through the Jura and the quickest too.
I take that route every year when I drive out to Switzerland skiing....beautiful scenery driving through the Jura and the quickest too.
Cmoose - time, really. I was thinking that if I tazzed down the Autoroute and then had some fun toward the end I could fit the journey into 10 hours (including stops for fuel etc). I am making the assumption that the D roads are slower than the Autoroute.
Of course, I could split the journey over two days, which would make the whole thing rather more relaxed.
Of course, I could split the journey over two days, which would make the whole thing rather more relaxed.
If I was doing this on the bike I'd plot the route, load it into the Garmin and go.
In the car I'm not sure how to do it - I normally use Google maps on my phone, but it will provide the route rather than allowing me to define one.
What do people do in this situation? I fear that it's beyond me to remember every turn.
In the car I'm not sure how to do it - I normally use Google maps on my phone, but it will provide the route rather than allowing me to define one.
What do people do in this situation? I fear that it's beyond me to remember every turn.
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Superb photo, I know exactly where it was taken
, you can really take it quite fast.Agree about using the D roads. Albeit on a slightly different route, I drive between Lausanne and Reims regularly and find that D roads only add about an hour over the auto-routes for that stretch. Excellent fun, and quiet roads, speeds can be kept reasonably auto-route ish should you wish
If you come off the A5 at Ville sous la Ferte and take the D996 to Leuglay then D928 to pick up the D959 at Recey sur Ource. Follow D959 all the way to Pontailer sur Saône. Then towards the Jura including Salins les Bains, Mouthe, Le Pont, Cossonay and Lausanne.
Some fine empty roads with plenty of variety to keep you amused.
The Jura south of Salins.
Some fine empty roads with plenty of variety to keep you amused.
The Jura south of Salins.
Edited by lowndes on Friday 14th June 10:45
Dammit said:
Ok, v3:
Take in Lavey-les-Bains en route as by then you'll need "the hottest thermal water in Switzerland." with its " two outdoor pools and the indoor pool .......... open all year at a temperature of 33°C to 36°C."https://www.bains-lavey.ch/en/
Posh is an understatement. The private Swiss recuperation hospital next door has the odd A-list type plodding around in white robe and slippers... I swear I saw Michael Jackson here once many many years ago.
Ideal for a chill out after your 8hr48min drive.
It's basically the last white blob on the motorway before you turn west and head back into France.
Amusing route story to prepare you for your forthcoming journey:
I was driving the last 10% of that route from Switzerland back into France, back from the pools at Lavey.
My steed was an underpowered (but cheery) Fiat 500 which didn't like the altitude and was from memory about 0.002cc of internal combustion.
Going down hill was fine, but it really didn't like climbing up the passes. So I realised you needed to conserve speed at the bottom of a hill and hit the incline hard with foot to the floor.
So heading over west toward Morzine with beers on order at the Crepu bar in town (very cool) I started on a huge uphill road, quite straight and my right foot welded to the carpet, wit the little FIAT pulling like a small underpowered Italian fashion car not designed for the Alps.
Come on, come on, come on. Oh what's this ? Some fool stepping out into the road near the brow of the hill? Get back fool, I'm in no mood to brake or slow down? More accelerator, stupid fool, what is he doing?
Oh goodness, he has a machine gun and he is pointing it at me. Oh forking heel !
Yes it was the border guards, who really did want me stop, and had no respect for inertia. Being Swiss.
I cannot recommend this approach to the final traverse across to MZN.
I was driving the last 10% of that route from Switzerland back into France, back from the pools at Lavey.
My steed was an underpowered (but cheery) Fiat 500 which didn't like the altitude and was from memory about 0.002cc of internal combustion.
Going down hill was fine, but it really didn't like climbing up the passes. So I realised you needed to conserve speed at the bottom of a hill and hit the incline hard with foot to the floor.
So heading over west toward Morzine with beers on order at the Crepu bar in town (very cool) I started on a huge uphill road, quite straight and my right foot welded to the carpet, wit the little FIAT pulling like a small underpowered Italian fashion car not designed for the Alps.
Come on, come on, come on. Oh what's this ? Some fool stepping out into the road near the brow of the hill? Get back fool, I'm in no mood to brake or slow down? More accelerator, stupid fool, what is he doing?
Oh goodness, he has a machine gun and he is pointing it at me. Oh forking heel !
Yes it was the border guards, who really did want me stop, and had no respect for inertia. Being Swiss.
I cannot recommend this approach to the final traverse across to MZN.
Edited by The_Doc on Friday 14th June 16:59
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