911 ST backdate....
Discussion
As per title what can some P'heads guys who are better informed tell me about them..I have been thinking of buying an 80s 911 Coupe and restoring it to ST spec but have absolutely no idea where to go or costs involved..I have seen a few for sale including Jay Kay's Condo green ST which might be a more cost effective option..I have also spotted another green 73 RS ducktail backdate for sale in Aberdeenshire for £69K which seems particularly good value albeit not my prefered ST..
The very first 911 i sat in back in 1979 was a green Coupe so from a nostalgia POV i really hanker after one..Another reason is that new Turbo 991s have got too big, fast and characterless for my liking..
The very first 911 i sat in back in 1979 was a green Coupe so from a nostalgia POV i really hanker after one..Another reason is that new Turbo 991s have got too big, fast and characterless for my liking..
I would have thought that basing it on a period correct car is the way to go / something that is eligible for historic events
Something like these (I have no clue about the cars, just did a quick mobile.de search)
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
Something like these (I have no clue about the cars, just did a quick mobile.de search)
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
When I was looking at the Speedster the bloke who was showing it to me said the great thing about owning these older cars is the events that open up to you...not necessarily track events. There’s a big 356 members meet every year for example, next year’s is in Munich. I also recently met a bloke who owns a 1969 911 S...easier to say where he hasn’t been with that than where he has. He’s part of a group of 15 owners of pre 1970 911’s who do a major three month trip every couple of years.
JulierPass said:
Go and talk to Tuthill, that's your best bet. You will end up spending circa 300 grand though and there's a lot more interesting things that can be done with that kind of cash!
£300k!!!! When I looked into doing something similar (spoke to Tuthill and a couple of others) to a 964 C2, the build costs were somewhere between £80-100k depending on spec, plus the cost of the donor car, which at the time was £40-45k. A backdate is a lovely thing. I racked up a few miles with the owner of this 1970 911S (2.2) which is lightened and properly set up and it's a thing of beauty.
I really can imagine back in the day there was not a car in the around 2 litre category which could match this piece of weapon. Yes, it starts to sing its tune at well over 4k but when it does it wants to make you break all the rules. Epic.
I recommend everyone with a wish for a retro, backdate or outlaw to have a go in an proper original car first before setting up a briefing.
Just my 2 pence.
dinkel said:
A backdate is a lovely thing. I racked up a few miles with the owner of this 1970 911S (2.2) which is lightened and properly set up and it's a thing of beauty.
I really can imagine back in the day there was not a car in the around 2 litre category which could match this piece of weapon. Yes, it starts to sing its tune at well over 4k but when it does it wants to make you break all the rules. Epic.
I recommend everyone with a wish for a retro, backdate or outlaw to have a go in an proper original car first before setting up a briefing.
Just my 2 pence.
Blue62 said:
JulierPass said:
Go and talk to Tuthill, that's your best bet. You will end up spending circa 300 grand though and there's a lot more interesting things that can be done with that kind of cash!
£300k!!!! When I looked into doing something similar (spoke to Tuthill and a couple of others) to a 964 C2, the build costs were somewhere between £80-100k depending on spec, plus the cost of the donor car, which at the time was £40-45k. Looks like there is a proper S to ST spec with FIA papers at Hairpin Co?
Alternatively not an ST but this RS rep looks interesting and doesn't seem too expensive. I'd love to put lots of miles on it. Been for sale for ages so maybe worth cheeky bid?
https://www.rufautomobile.co.uk/porsche-911-carrer...
Alternatively not an ST but this RS rep looks interesting and doesn't seem too expensive. I'd love to put lots of miles on it. Been for sale for ages so maybe worth cheeky bid?
https://www.rufautomobile.co.uk/porsche-911-carrer...
IMI A said:
Looks like there is a proper S to ST spec with FIA papers at Hairpin Co?
Alternatively not an ST but this RS rep looks interesting and doesn't seem too expensive. I'd love to put lots of miles on it. Been for sale for ages so maybe worth cheeky bid?
https://www.rufautomobile.co.uk/porsche-911-carrer...
For 100k I'd want it to look a bit more authentic - especially the dash and dials etc. which appear to be from a much much later car.Alternatively not an ST but this RS rep looks interesting and doesn't seem too expensive. I'd love to put lots of miles on it. Been for sale for ages so maybe worth cheeky bid?
https://www.rufautomobile.co.uk/porsche-911-carrer...
alfapork said:
IMI A said:
Looks like there is a proper S to ST spec with FIA papers at Hairpin Co?
Alternatively not an ST but this RS rep looks interesting and doesn't seem too expensive. I'd love to put lots of miles on it. Been for sale for ages so maybe worth cheeky bid?
https://www.rufautomobile.co.uk/porsche-911-carrer...
For 100k I'd want it to look a bit more authentic - especially the dash and dials etc. which appear to be from a much much later car.Alternatively not an ST but this RS rep looks interesting and doesn't seem too expensive. I'd love to put lots of miles on it. Been for sale for ages so maybe worth cheeky bid?
https://www.rufautomobile.co.uk/porsche-911-carrer...
IMI A said:
Yes too much at £100k. At £75k I think I'd maybe run out of reasons not to purchase. Wouldn't be difficult to source an early dash or convert to ST spec - far easier than a back date I'd imagine and more authentic too
There is a very nice ST backdate in Blood orange for sale JZM for £120K..In a great colour and looks like to be in absolutely fantastic condition as you would expect with JZM.The white one at Ruf looks like a nice RS copy which i like every bit as much as an ST especially with the ducktail.
Cheib said:
When I was looking at the Speedster the bloke who was showing it to me said the great thing about owning these older cars is the events that open up to you...not necessarily track events. There’s a big 356 members meet every year for example, next year’s is in Munich. I also recently met a bloke who owns a 1969 911 S...easier to say where he hasn’t been with that than where he has. He’s part of a group of 15 owners of pre 1970 911’s who do a major three month trip every couple of years.
I have a 997.1 Gt3 which is as modern as I wish to go for a weekend fun car.I Alison love the 356 Speedster. I cannot a ford a real one so I brought the most accurate reproduction replica I could find. It is made by Vintage Speedsters in Arizona. They build them in there own factory. No home build kits . It’s not super fast but it’s. real pleasure to drive when the suns out. More people ask me about the car than my Gt3.
A real feel good car.
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