SK18WLH anyone know this car?
SK18WLH anyone know this car?
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Goldy

Original Poster:

3 posts

72 months

Sunday 29th March 2020
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Does anyone know this car for sale at OPC Edinburgh?

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en_GB/911-Targa-4-GT...

Jakob911

82 posts

84 months

Friday 3rd April 2020
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The car you mention is my old car. I had issues with it , sold it back to the dealer for a sig loss. They told me the fact the ecu and wiring loom had been exposed to water for almost a year and the fact the moisture reading still indicated water back in November last year that all was well. I disagreed and didn’t want to carry the risk of the car enduring further issues. The opc were clear that they would have no issues putting the car up for sale and that the issues were fixed . Here’s a post I wrote at the time . https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

MrC986

3,727 posts

214 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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It sounds like the original owner of the car was treated v.poorly having read his thread. OP, I’d find another car as anyone in the business will advise to not buy a car that’s had a history of water related electronic issues. There appear to be a couple of other similar cars in the OPC network at the same £s etc. & I bet they’ll be motivated to sell stock when the current health situation ends & I’d be looking at those instead - good luck with the search thumbup

Goldy

Original Poster:

3 posts

72 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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Wow, that's very interesting. The sales guy didn't answer directly when i asked if the car had any issues I should know about. He told me instead they sold the car from new and it was well known to them. He also added that they had 2 other notes of interest on the car, whatever that actually means. Its been there a while so think ill look elsewhere. Seems to me that there is an argument to force dealers to divulge fully all details they know of a car other than its been serviced and has used warranty. A system similar to home owner requirement when selling. That way you are fully aware of what you are buying. Even if now fixed, to know and be aware of full history would be very helpful.

Maxym

2,797 posts

259 months

Saturday 4th April 2020
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If you don't ask they're not obliged to tell you. If you do ask they are legally bound to tell you what they know.

That's my understanding anyway.

andymc

7,568 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th April 2020
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I’m motor trade and you’re meant to disclose anything that can affect the buyers decisions, in theory

DeuceDeuce

552 posts

115 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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OPC have said the car sold on the weekend.

ChrisW.

8,046 posts

278 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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We distribute high voltage electronic lighting products for professional photographers.

In theory if products get wet, so long as they are not powered up until thoroughly dried out -- as long as this is done quickly and so long as the water was pure and uncontaminated, it is possible that they can have a reliable future.

Unfortunately the above is very very rarely the case. Failed components can be replaced but any corrosion can be very difficult if not impossible to clean out, and any remaining salts often attract moisture and more corrosion.

This is why flood damaged cars even when they look reasonably unaffected, are often written-off by insurers.

Once there is any corrosive water solution in the electrics, where does it end ? Capilliary attraction can take potential corrosion everywhere ...

Edited by ChrisW. on Wednesday 8th April 22:22

Jakob911

82 posts

84 months

Monday 6th April 2020
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Your explanation of the issues with corrosion sum up our views as expressed to the OPC back when this was a live issue. I sure hope the new owner doesn't encounter any issues with SK18WLH but with the historic water ingress issue its not a given. I hope OPC E'burgh changed the front off side tyre which had a puncture repair patch on it and fixed the heated rear glass which work as you'd hope.

I've moved on mentally from the annoyance and inconvenience of ownership of that particular car. I never assumed manufacturers don't have issues or make cars that are on occasion hard to fix. What surprised me was how poor the OPC handled it. It is a lesson to us all who fork out good money for these cars is that you are contracted with the OPC not Porsche GB or Porsche AG and your satisfaction rests squarely with how they deal with the issue. HQ in UK and Germany showed tepid interest and refused point blank to address whether the OPC had met or failed to meet the customer care required under their franchise agreement.

So when your hear or read that a particular OPC is brilliant etc make sure you know what post sales is like and not just the mating ritual of the OPC to get your money and sell a car. The true test of a company is how they deal with issues after the sale or when it (the product) goes wrong.

I'd be a huge fan of the UK introducing Lemon Laws for cars, especially given how much the average cost of a car has risen over the last 10-15 years. These are significant purchases for most and for current legislation to allow such poor support to the buyer it does support a change of approach. In the US as I understand it the dealer gets 2 goes at fixing the issue , after that a lemon application can then be made.






anonymous-user

77 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Jakob911 said:
I've moved on mentally from the annoyance and inconvenience of ownership of that particular car. I never assumed manufacturers don't have issues or make cars that are on occasion hard to fix. What surprised me was how poor the OPC handled it. It is a lesson to us all who fork out good money for these cars is that you are contracted with the OPC not Porsche GB or Porsche AG and your satisfaction rests squarely with how they deal with the issue. HQ in UK and Germany showed tepid interest and refused point blank to address whether the OPC had met or failed to meet the customer care required under their franchise agreement.

So when your hear or read that a particular OPC is brilliant etc make sure you know what post sales is like and not just the mating ritual of the OPC to get your money and sell a car. The true test of a company is how they deal with issues after the sale or when it (the product) goes wrong.

I'd be a huge fan of the UK introducing Lemon Laws for cars, especially given how much the average cost of a car has risen over the last 10-15 years. These are significant purchases for most and for current legislation to allow such poor support to the buyer it does support a change of approach. In the US as I understand it the dealer gets 2 goes at fixing the issue , after that a lemon application can then be made.
Some ethics and honesty should also be mandatory, have been shafted by an OPC to the tune of £5k, my view is slippery bunch of snakes. As for HO customer service, limp biscuit is as polite as it gets, just there to protect themselves unless they make a mistake and accidentally help someone.

Goldy

Original Poster:

3 posts

72 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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DeuceDeuce said:
OPC have said the car sold on the weekend.
I noticed that car is back up for sale Porsche edinburgh! Seems unusual as it has same mileage as before yet it was apparently sold back in March. I wonder if it was sold and returned? Doesn't say how many owners.

harleywilma

526 posts

266 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Just goes to show you cant trust the OPC or any dealer , its just human nature at its worst in that business im afraid...they are there to make money simple if they can get away with it they will, trust me I was in the motor trade for 30 + years!

jcosh

1,243 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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As a side note. I see they are happily selling the car with Zun Sport radiator grills, that at a later date they might ask to be removed when extending the warranty.

jcosh

1,243 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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As a side note. I see they are happily selling the car with Zun Sport radiator grills, that at a later date they might ask to be removed when extending the warranty.