What to buy next? Selling GT4
Discussion
Despite chat (and expectations) of crashing prices and market, my GT4 will be sold soon.
It is painful to sell as I think it’s the best fun performance car under £100k. I also think in 15 years it will achieve classic status - the first gen at least, because it’s an important car. Prices? We’ll never stop arguing about that.
So what to get next?
I love the 964 and was thinking of a ground up rebuild - finding one in terrible condition and making a modded dark green or blue performance version that still looks classic. It will end up RWD manual whatever I buy.
Another love is the 997.2 GT3. Would work out a rear wing delete, rear seat add and possibly final drive change. More Touring type.
I know and don’t care what this does to values. I don’t want to spend a fortune either. I don’t like boy racer hence more modest looking but performance and fun matter.
All ideas gratefully received. I also need dreams to feel ok selling my GT4. Whatever anyone says about it, it’s a special car.
It is painful to sell as I think it’s the best fun performance car under £100k. I also think in 15 years it will achieve classic status - the first gen at least, because it’s an important car. Prices? We’ll never stop arguing about that.
So what to get next?
I love the 964 and was thinking of a ground up rebuild - finding one in terrible condition and making a modded dark green or blue performance version that still looks classic. It will end up RWD manual whatever I buy.
Another love is the 997.2 GT3. Would work out a rear wing delete, rear seat add and possibly final drive change. More Touring type.
I know and don’t care what this does to values. I don’t want to spend a fortune either. I don’t like boy racer hence more modest looking but performance and fun matter.
All ideas gratefully received. I also need dreams to feel ok selling my GT4. Whatever anyone says about it, it’s a special car.
This.....
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Edited by GT4P on Saturday 16th May 12:54
This 964 has had a wack (not recorded) at frond end. I'd buy this 964 RS. Hot rodded whilst rebuilt by Autofarm and many RS's have generally been in the side barrier at some point in their lives so accident not the end of the world at all.
They'd take a cheeky offer around £90k GBP offer IMO. Its a cheap and interesting car IMO. Worth talking to Autofarm they're very good at building these properly. I'd prefer this to a low mileage minter TBH or building a ground up 964 hot rod. Easy enough to remove that rear spoiler and have the Touring look. I seriously wish I did not already own one or this would be in my garage otherwise. Coolest car on the planet IMO especially in mint green
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_detail.asp?mode=mast...
They'd take a cheeky offer around £90k GBP offer IMO. Its a cheap and interesting car IMO. Worth talking to Autofarm they're very good at building these properly. I'd prefer this to a low mileage minter TBH or building a ground up 964 hot rod. Easy enough to remove that rear spoiler and have the Touring look. I seriously wish I did not already own one or this would be in my garage otherwise. Coolest car on the planet IMO especially in mint green
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_detail.asp?mode=mast...
Edited by IMI A on Saturday 16th May 16:49
IMI A said:
She's had a wack (not recorded) at frond end. I'd buy this 964 RS. Hot rodded whilst rebuilt by Autofarm and many RS's have generally been in the side barrier at some point in their lives so accident not the end of the world at all.
They'd take a cheeky offer around £90k GBP offer IMO. Its a cheap and interesting car IMO. Worth talking to Autofarm they're very good at building these properly. I'd prefer this to a low mileage minter TBH or building a ground up 964 hot rod. Easy enough to remove that rear spoiler and have the Touring look. I seriously wish I did not already own one or this would be in my garage otherwise. Coolest car on the planet IMO especially in mint green
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_detail.asp?mode=mast...
Which cars had a smash in the front and not recorded, the white 997.2 Gt3 for 96k They'd take a cheeky offer around £90k GBP offer IMO. Its a cheap and interesting car IMO. Worth talking to Autofarm they're very good at building these properly. I'd prefer this to a low mileage minter TBH or building a ground up 964 hot rod. Easy enough to remove that rear spoiler and have the Touring look. I seriously wish I did not already own one or this would be in my garage otherwise. Coolest car on the planet IMO especially in mint green
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_detail.asp?mode=mast...
IMI A said:
This 964 has had a wack (not recorded) at frond end. I'd buy this 964 RS. Hot rodded whilst rebuilt by Autofarm and many RS's have generally been in the side barrier at some point in their lives so accident not the end of the world at all.
They'd take a cheeky offer around £90k GBP offer IMO. Its a cheap and interesting car IMO. Worth talking to Autofarm they're very good at building these properly. I'd prefer this to a low mileage minter TBH or building a ground up 964 hot rod. Easy enough to remove that rear spoiler and have the Touring look. I seriously wish I did not already own one or this would be in my garage otherwise. Coolest car on the planet IMO especially in mint green
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_detail.asp?mode=mast...
Cool car - what’s it up at ? Thanks They'd take a cheeky offer around £90k GBP offer IMO. Its a cheap and interesting car IMO. Worth talking to Autofarm they're very good at building these properly. I'd prefer this to a low mileage minter TBH or building a ground up 964 hot rod. Easy enough to remove that rear spoiler and have the Touring look. I seriously wish I did not already own one or this would be in my garage otherwise. Coolest car on the planet IMO especially in mint green
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_detail.asp?mode=mast...
Edited by IMI A on Saturday 16th May 16:49
Why change the GT4?
I do think the GT4 is the best performance car under £100k but The best performance Isn’t what motivates me, well not right now.
I may go back to a 997.2 C2S manual, but quite like idea of making a 997.2 GT3 touring version - price permitting. Rear seats requires significant work I know but not difficult. The 997.1 has everything in place to bolt in belts and seats with no work.
Want something that is more classic looking. It will annoy many that I’d take the wing off a GT3, but it’s for me, and my wife would appreciate the (more) understated look.
The 964 is a wholly different proposition but easily my favourite look. The lack of modernity and ergonomics inside plays on my mind. I drive with fast people and can’t keep up, so an old car could be my excuse.
I do think the GT4 is the best performance car under £100k but The best performance Isn’t what motivates me, well not right now.
I may go back to a 997.2 C2S manual, but quite like idea of making a 997.2 GT3 touring version - price permitting. Rear seats requires significant work I know but not difficult. The 997.1 has everything in place to bolt in belts and seats with no work.
Want something that is more classic looking. It will annoy many that I’d take the wing off a GT3, but it’s for me, and my wife would appreciate the (more) understated look.
The 964 is a wholly different proposition but easily my favourite look. The lack of modernity and ergonomics inside plays on my mind. I drive with fast people and can’t keep up, so an old car could be my excuse.
If I could afford to, I’d keep the GT4. I shouldn’t but I do think in 15 years with electric cars, the GT4 will be considered one of the most important Porsche cars. If anything because it’s a car that brought the manual back and began to realise the cayman’s potential.
Right now, it’s a bit too track car looking to me - more than a 911.
Right now, it’s a bit too track car looking to me - more than a 911.
woollyjoe said:
If I could afford to, I’d keep the GT4. I shouldn’t but I do think in 15 years with electric cars, the GT4 will be considered one of the most important Porsche cars. If anything because it’s a car that brought the manual back and began to realise the cayman’s potential.
As it's not a 911, I don't think either of the two vanilla GT4s will be sought after in the future. I think the upcoming RS will be the only non-911 to command decent sums on the collector market longer term.I would be very cautious about ‘future classics’ and ‘collectibility’ going forward. Many people are predicting different sentiment, priorities and demand in the eventual future.
The other thing I would be wary of is comparing a contemporary designed, engineered, developed and built Porsche, with low mileage, dealer support and Warranty, with an old, tired, hard used example that has been cobbled back together in some blokes garage, with a mix of old, refurbished, new or aftermarket parts.
It’s no longer a Porsche - it’s someone’s personal ‘Porsche concept’ - and that doesn’t work for everyone.
The other thing I would be wary of is comparing a contemporary designed, engineered, developed and built Porsche, with low mileage, dealer support and Warranty, with an old, tired, hard used example that has been cobbled back together in some blokes garage, with a mix of old, refurbished, new or aftermarket parts.
It’s no longer a Porsche - it’s someone’s personal ‘Porsche concept’ - and that doesn’t work for everyone.
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Here's one for 80K:
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All Evoras are fantastic to drive and much, much, much better-built than people think.
woollyjoe said:
Why change the GT4?
The 964 is a wholly different proposition but easily my favourite look. The lack of modernity and ergonomics inside plays on my mind. I drive with fast people and can’t keep up, so an old car could be my excuse.
Not even close to being a problem on typical British roads. A sorted 964 will happily keep pace with the newer cars although you will be working harder behind the wheel. The advantage of being smaller is huge and out outweighs the deficit in power in most circumstances.The 964 is a wholly different proposition but easily my favourite look. The lack of modernity and ergonomics inside plays on my mind. I drive with fast people and can’t keep up, so an old car could be my excuse.
RSVP911 said:
IMI A said:
This 964 has had a wack (not recorded) at frond end. I'd buy this 964 RS. Hot rodded whilst rebuilt by Autofarm and many RS's have generally been in the side barrier at some point in their lives so accident not the end of the world at all.
They'd take a cheeky offer around £90k GBP offer IMO. Its a cheap and interesting car IMO. Worth talking to Autofarm they're very good at building these properly. I'd prefer this to a low mileage minter TBH or building a ground up 964 hot rod. Easy enough to remove that rear spoiler and have the Touring look. I seriously wish I did not already own one or this would be in my garage otherwise. Coolest car on the planet IMO especially in mint green
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_detail.asp?mode=mast...
Cool car - what’s it up at ? Thanks They'd take a cheeky offer around £90k GBP offer IMO. Its a cheap and interesting car IMO. Worth talking to Autofarm they're very good at building these properly. I'd prefer this to a low mileage minter TBH or building a ground up 964 hot rod. Easy enough to remove that rear spoiler and have the Touring look. I seriously wish I did not already own one or this would be in my garage otherwise. Coolest car on the planet IMO especially in mint green
http://www.stelvio.dk/product_detail.asp?mode=mast...
Edited by IMI A on Saturday 16th May 16:49
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