Which 911 to buy for £75K

[EvoSid]

Ok I now have the money to finally buy a 911 that I always said I would buy.
Original budget was around £40K. So I tried a 997.1 Carrera S and was underwhelmed

Then I tried a 991 2013 C4S and I must admit this is amazing , just about ideal as a part daily / weekend car
I have no intention of doing track days so road manners more important than ultimate grip. Also PDK over manual , too lazy for a manual now lol.

I was thinking 991.1 or .2 2S or C4S , the 4S appeals as it gives me the security 4 wheels drive , but is the 2S tail happy or pretty stable and worth looking at even for a novice Porsche driver.
But now people have said have a look at the GTS versions of the above

So question is what can I get for my money , around £70K, newer is better for me. And what should I buy 991 2S or 4S or GTS version ?
So confused as you also have to decide if you want NA 3.8 or Turbo 3.0
Also will a car at a Porsche dealer currently at £77.7k maybe come down to around below £70K once lockdown ends ?

Or should I go for a Mclaren as they are now within range ?

Any thought or ideas would be great as I am pretty confused tbh . Is and early 991 GT3 even worth looking at ?

Annual mileage around about 5-7K , Budget circa £70K ideally less but could push it to £75k. Also will need a Porsche warranty for peace of mind so if not from a OPC or out of warranty I will need to set aside around £3k for checks and warranty, is this enough?

Thanks in advance
Sid

[paul0843]

Why not a base 992.?
Even if you have a small amount of finance.
The you you have the most up to date car with warranty from a main dealer.
Wil be almost new.
Paul

[OhThatHurtAbit]

There's a number of 991.1 911 GTS Coupe in the OPC network for under £75,000 (if you want peace-of-mind). Future residuals will be stronger than the mainstream model 911.1s and it's the most involving and cost-effective to run. The McLaren might look 'cheap' now but running costs are off the scale in relation to the 911.

[AND7 F]

7k mileage too high for GT3 or even more so McLaren unless you want to st money

I’m biased but 991.1 GTS sounds perfect for this budget - not as fast as the 991.2 but the 3.8 N/A makes up for it in every other way

Edited by AND7 F on Sunday 17th May 16:54

[Twinfan]

991.1 GTS with PDK sounds like a winner to me, as long as you want the 3.8 NA engine. I'd only go for a 991.2 if you must have the extra power and speed. Personally I'd always take the NA for the power delivery and character.

[m88ony]

Twinfan said:

991.1 GTS with PDK sounds like a winner to me, as long as you want the 3.8 NA engine. I'd only go for a 991.2 if you must have the extra power and speed. Personally I'd always take the NA for the power delivery and character.

Agree with the above. With the budget 991.1 GTS is the one to go for.

[Koln-RS]

These days there’s no significant difference between C2 and C4 in terms of security.
They have so many ‘nanny aids’.
Most people seem to prefer the C2 for greater simplicity and purity, but the C4 would have more traction in winter.
However, a C2 on winter tyres is better than a C4 on summer tyres in mid-winter conditions.

[EvoSid]

paul0843 said:

Why not a base 992.?
Even if you have a small amount of finance.
The you you have the most up to date car with warranty from a main dealer.
Wil be almost new.
Paul

I think they are over £80 for even the cheapest. Remember I started at £40K and now I am at £70K lol

But would a Base 992 be better than a 991.2 C4S?

[EvoSid]

OhThatHurtAbit said:

There's a number of 991.1 911 GTS Coupe in the OPC network for under £75,000 (if you want peace-of-mind). Future residuals will be stronger than the mainstream model 911.1s and it's the most involving and cost-effective to run. The McLaren might look 'cheap' now but running costs are off the scale in relation to the 911.

I think the dilemma is 991.2 C4S for £70k on 17 plate v A 991.1 GTS 2S/4S ( not sure what I could get )

Which is the better car ?

[EvoSid]

AND7 F said:

7k mileage too high for GT3 or even more so McLaren unless you want to st money

I’m biased but 991.1 GTS sounds perfect for this budget - not as fast as the 991.2 but the 3.8 N/A makes up for it in every other way

Edited by AND7 F on Sunday 17th May 16:54

I must admit I do like the sound of the 3.8l. But the lure of a newer car appeals .
The one I have seen at dealers are
17 plate 991.2 C4S for £77K
13 plate 991.1 C4S for £60K

So my thought was buy the newer car and enjoy it as depreciation is quite slow. Of course all prices etc pre Covid

[av185]

Agree with others the 991.1 GTS 3.8 is where the smart money would go.

Won't get much of a 991.1 GT3 for £75k. Perhaps a tatty one with high mileage though.

[EvoSid]

m88ony said:

Twinfan said:

991.1 GTS with PDK sounds like a winner to me, as long as you want the 3.8 NA engine. I'd only go for a 991.2 if you must have the extra power and speed. Personally I'd always take the NA for the power delivery and character.

Agree with the above. With the budget 991.1 GTS is the one to go for.

Yeah I do like the sound feel of the 3.8ltr , but I have not tried the 991.2 turbo engined car

[EvoSid]

Koln-RS said:

These days there’s no significant difference between C2 and C4 in terms of security.
They have so many ‘nanny aids’.
Most people seem to prefer the C2 for greater simplicity and purity, but the C4 would have more traction in winter.
However, a C2 on winter tyres is better than a C4 on summer tyres in mid-winter conditions.

That was what I was hoping some one would say. My idea was put on a nice set of spur sticky tyres and go for a 2S and enjoy it as it will not b used in Winter as plenty of other cars to use as daily drivers .
But I agree a 2wd car with winter tyres beats a 4wd on summer tyres any day

[EvoSid]

OhThatHurtAbit said:

There's a number of 991.1 911 GTS Coupe in the OPC network for under £75,000 (if you want peace-of-mind). Future residuals will be stronger than the mainstream model 911.1s and it's the most involving and cost-effective to run. The McLaren might look 'cheap' now but running costs are off the scale in relation to the 911.

How big are he running costs for a Mclaren say 570S / GT compared to a 991 ?

[EvoSid]

av185 said:

Agree with others the 991.1 GTS 3.8 is where the smart money would go.

Won't get much of a 991.1 GT3 for £75k. Perhaps a tatty one with high mileage though.

Yes I think you would be right as GT3 would not be great at that price point. Maybe see of prices soften in next 2-6 months

[av185]

Apart from other obvious benefits a 2 wd 911 is far more communicative greater fun and has far more neutral steering than the equivalent 4 wd.

[tokyotv]

2018 Carrera T with PDK and some options would be around £70k ?

Warranty, fun and a more exclusive!

[diffstar]

EvoSid said:

OhThatHurtAbit said:

There's a number of 991.1 911 GTS Coupe in the OPC network for under £75,000 (if you want peace-of-mind). Future residuals will be stronger than the mainstream model 911.1s and it's the most involving and cost-effective to run. The McLaren might look 'cheap' now but running costs are off the scale in relation to the 911.

How big are he running costs for a Mclaren say 570S / GT compared to a 991 ?

A years warranty and annual service is £4K per year. Porsche will be less than half that.

[GT4RS]

A private sale comfort spec 991.1 Gt3 with 30k on the clock could work.

[av185]

EvoSid said:

How big are he running costs for a Mclaren say 570S / GT compared to a 991 ?

The annual warranty is the least of your worries and pales into insignificance cost wise compared to depreciation even on a 570s.

Great if uninvolving package at the money but not to everyones tastes.

If you are contemplating one you need to spend some time in one as they are a totally different proposition to a 911.