Autocar's 992 Turbo S review.

[Taffy66]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/porsche/911-t...

Pretty predictable apart from the harsh ride..Struggling to find a way to justify one in today's world..Personally wouldn't swap my 991.2GT3 RS WP for one.

[IMI A]

Hopefully Apolo will let me make a video of racing his new one in my old banger 997 turbo at VMAX in July! Cant wait to have a few runs up the VMAX run way against this. Looks awesome to me and the most interesting stat is that Porsche say their average turbo s buyer has $1m of annual earnings. Not many of those people about at the mo so this will be a very exclusive car IMO.

[Cheib]

I’d love to drive one (I haven’t driven the 991 generation either) but I think I’d get frustrated with the fact you can’t give it full throttle for me than a second...almost literally. Be an amazing daily driver I am sure.

[browngt3]

Interesting, but as you say predictable. Having seen a few 992's out and about now I must admit the looks have grown on me a lot. Seems to suit dark colours.

Would much rather have a perfect original 930 Turbo. Though perhaps not to use everyday.

[RDMcG]

Obviously great numbers. It’s the kind of car I want to try on a Porsche demo day at the track but not to buy. I’m old-fashioned and will wait for the RS - which I expect will be the swan song of the n/a engines. It will likely be a bit slower on acceleration but I want to have the last of the breed

[Digga]

As I see it, there are problems for the iconic 911 turbo:

4. They have all been too fast for real world roads for some time.

b. Each iteration simply gets worse in this regard, as much as it gets more insanely fun.

2. As others say, WOT for more than a second or two and you are doing seriously illegal speeds. Sure, the rush is immense and it really does take some time for your eyes to get used to the way the horizon rushes to meet them, but it's frustrating too.

7. A big Eurohoon, mit autobahns, is really the only place you can properly enjoy them.

B. They all have turbos now; the who NA thing, GT3s aside, is dead, so the moniker, or lack of it on the 'cooking' models, is dishonest.

Not sure which of the two is a bigger issue. That said, "turbo" has always meant "MORE!" in Porschespeak, to the extent the top range EV even uses the name, so perhaps there's still some value.

[franki68]

Interesting about the ride quality,although the 996t was certainly not a nice riding car ,much of the appeal of the turbo has been it's completeness and useability.Car magazine gave it a glowing review but said it is closer to a Gt3 type feel than previous turbos .

[Digga]

franki68 said:

Interesting about the ride quality,although the 996t was certainly not a nice riding car...

Car vary by IME the 996 turbo was a wonderful place to be on a long road trip. Took mine to and around the Nurburgring twice and each time, the journey felt effortless and extremely enjoyable. Between here and there (home and Norsdchleife) I'd take my old 996 turbo over my 997 GT3 any time.

[APOLO1]

IMI A said:

Hopefully Apolo will let me make a video of racing his new one in my old banger 997 turbo at VMAX in July! Cant wait to have a few runs up the VMAX run way against this. Looks awesome to me and the most interesting stat is that Porsche say their average turbo s buyer has $1m of annual earnings. Not many of those people about at the mo so this will be a very exclusive car IMO.

Completes build early next month. If I have it I will be there. I know to a few that already have LHD cars. They say think of this one as close to a GT2, as in its more track bias than the previous Gen ones. 0-100 in 5.6, that's what TG recorded.

[Grantstown]

So autocar suggests they’ve bored out the carrera motor to increase the displacement to 3.7 litres. I hope they’ve left enough cylinder block to stop these ones becoming oval.

[MPC09]

RDMcG said:

Obviously great numbers. It’s the kind of car I want to try on a Porsche demo day at the track but not to buy. I’m old-fashioned and will wait for the RS - which I expect will be the swan song of the n/a engines. It will likely be a bit slower on acceleration but I want to have the last of the breed

It might be slower, but it won't be slow by any stretch of the imagination.

Considering most things accelerate slower than a Turbo S, I think the GT3 RS 992 will be plenty quick enough to lose a license in under five seconds.

[RDMcG]

MPC09 said:

It might be slower, but it won't be slow by any stretch of the imagination.

Considering most things accelerate slower than a Turbo S, I think the GT3 RS 992 will be plenty quick enough to lose a license in under five seconds.

No doubt, but I normally do factory pickup and drive the wheels off the thing immediately..100km run in, and then 5-6000km in the next three weeks including tracks. Been doing this for many years across multiple Porsches and never had the slightest mechanical problem after. Not interested in keeping miles down or investment value.

We are all different of course, I just like the RS as a driver's car. Will add to my existing garage.Thus I get the experience legally and no license points...Canada does not have cameras or the like and there are lots of low density back roads and some tracks, so it is possible to enjoy the car to some degree although not at the level of the first weeks.

I can see the value of the 991 Turbo but as a road car it does not really fit for me. I have a Panamera ST Turbo which is a superb road car for normal use and ridiculously quick now and then.

[Pothole]

IMI A said:

Looks awesome to me and the most interesting stat is that Porsche say their average turbo s buyer has $1m of annual earnings.

The Guardian in 2018 said:

The number of people in the UK earning more than £1m a year has jumped to over 18,700,

Which is a lot more than $1m

[Digga]

anonymous said:

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991.1 GT3 was running 3.8 litres - was that not also the same block? And is the 4 litre 991.2 GT3 block not, pretty much, a derivative of the same?

[Grantstown]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/flatsixes.com/cars/po...

This was the detail when the 3.0 was developed for the Carreras.

I understand the 4.0 for the new 718 GTS is a development of this (obviously sans turbos).

I’d be interested to get the detail on what they’ve done for the 992 turbo S though.

[franki68]

Digga said:

ar vary by IME the 996 turbo was a wonderful place to be on a long road trip. Took mine to and around the Nurburgring twice and each time, the journey felt effortless and extremely enjoyable. Between here and there (home and Norsdchleife) I'd take my old 996 turbo over my 997 GT3 any time.

I loved my 996tt until it blew up , but whilst the agree the ride was better than pretty much any gt3 ,it was not a good riding car ,acceptable maybe on motorways and racetracks but on a bad road it could rattle your fillings.

[DeejRC]

APOLO1 said:

IMI A said:

Hopefully Apolo will let me make a video of racing his new one in my old banger 997 turbo at VMAX in July! Cant wait to have a few runs up the VMAX run way against this. Looks awesome to me and the most interesting stat is that Porsche say their average turbo s buyer has $1m of annual earnings. Not many of those people about at the mo so this will be a very exclusive car IMO.

Completes build early next month. If I have it I will be there. I know to a few that already have LHD cars. They say think of this one as close to a GT2, as in its more track bias than the previous Gen ones. 0-100 in 5.6, that's what TG recorded.

Gadzooks that is mighty quick!

[Cheib]

Grantstown said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/flatsixes.com/cars/po...

This was the detail when the 3.0 was developed for the Carreras.

I understand the 4.0 for the new 718 GTS is a development of this (obviously sans turbos).

I’d be interested to get the detail on what they’ve done for the 992 turbo S though.

There’s a bit of beard on the engine towards the beginning of this video...he’s not everyone’s cup of tea but I quite like him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epgu-uhLDyU