992 GT3 - imminent?
992 GT3 - imminent?
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champ19ns

Original Poster:

162 posts

124 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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A well known Porsche GT independent dealer told me last week that the 992 GT3 is now delayed due to Covid, and expected release will now be 18 months away??

The car seems to be ready for release imminently as far as I can see..


Cheib

25,075 posts

198 months

Monday 22nd June 2020
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They’ve probably been told by the OPC that had arranged for their flipped cars to be quietly broked by them!

Don’t see how three months Covid would do that and more importantly with the implications for model cycles over the whole 992 generation don’t see that happening. IIRC there are more restrictive revaluations coming in in the mid 2020’s which means that Porsche won’t want to be delaying production of GT cars....delaying 992.1 GT3 by that long has implications for 992.2 GT cars etc

Juno

4,485 posts

272 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Crikey talk of flipping 992 GT cars already, there’s still some 991 Speedsters to be flipped yet before that, at least most of the 991RS’s appear to have been done!

RDMcG

20,518 posts

230 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Cheib said:
They’ve probably been told by the OPC that had arranged for their flipped cars to be quietly broked by them!

Don’t see how three months Covid would do that and more importantly with the implications for model cycles over the whole 992 generation don’t see that happening. IIRC there are more restrictive revaluations coming in in the mid 2020’s which means that Porsche won’t want to be delaying production of GT cars....delaying 992.1 GT3 by that long has implications for 992.2 GT cars etc
This is a real issue.
The new EU refs will be problematic and the particulate filter issue may well mean a slightly different EU and HS spec

Interesting to think of a GT3 pre the regs and the equivalent GT3RS after them.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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RDMcG said:
This is a real issue.
The new EU refs will be problematic and the particulate filter issue may well mean a slightly different EU and HS spec

Interesting to think of a GT3 pre the regs and the equivalent GT3RS after them.
EU and US spec on the 718 GT4 only differs in the particle coating (or lack of) on the PPF mesh filter. The cars sound identical by all accounts.

If new EU regs are coming, I would expect both the GT3 and GT3RS to meet them from the get-go. The Cayster 4.0 engine is compliant with all known regs that are due, the 992 GT3 may well have taken the same approach.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

288 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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68DB noise levels is coming to all cars in time :-)

joy.

Far Cough

2,475 posts

191 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Porsche911R said:
68DB noise levels is coming to all cars in time :-)

joy.
At least you will get more than 3 laps at most circuits then !!

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Yep, and the general public won't think you're a bellend when you drive past them...

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

288 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Twinfan said:
Yep, and the general public won't think you're a bellend when you drive past them...
no they will step out into the road and get run over more likely.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2020
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Not if your car is brightly coloured biggrin

Iknownothin

120 posts

153 months

Friday 17th July 2020
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Anybody heard anything about when it'll officially go on sale as yet?

Cheib

25,075 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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I was told last week that Porsche have increased production of Taycan because WLTP is causing problems with production of “normal” cars. Porsche GB/OPCs don’t seem to get much info about production delays etc.

Listened to a really good interview with AP recently....he basically said it’s a real fight producing these cars now and not getting easier. We’re approaching the end of an era or maybe already on the downslope. Cars will be faster, have more grip etc but will they excite you on the public road more than anything that’s already been made ? I have my doubts.

What would get me excited is if they went to the old school recipe of making a car as light as possible.

Terminator X

19,585 posts

227 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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Porsche911R said:
68DB noise levels is coming to all cars in time :-)

joy.
This is so sad, 60 is conversation and 70 is a shower sound wise yikes

TX.

Terminator X

19,585 posts

227 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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Twinfan said:
Yep, and the general public won't think you're a bellend when you drive past them...
Indeed, they won't even know you've driven past. Makes getting an EV more palatable though I guess.

TX.

caminator11

410 posts

121 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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The amount of vendors trying to move gen 2 991 RS cars makes it feel like the 992 unveil is sooner rather than later...

RDMcG

20,518 posts

230 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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I am hopeful that the filters will not be required for North America. I like the sounds of my old 997RR and the 991 also. If there is no regulatory requirement here then the aftermarket will fill the gap.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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RDMcG said:
I am hopeful that the filters will not be required for North America. I like the sounds of my old 997RR and the 991 also. If there is no regulatory requirement here then the aftermarket will fill the gap.
I would guess you need to see the 718 GT4 for how it will be for the 992 GT3 in the US - the same hardware as the rest of the world re. PPF filters but no active coating inside them on the mesh. You'll still have the lower noise of EU IMHO.

130R

7,003 posts

229 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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Twinfan said:
RDMcG said:
I am hopeful that the filters will not be required for North America. I like the sounds of my old 997RR and the 991 also. If there is no regulatory requirement here then the aftermarket will fill the gap.
I would guess you need to see the 718 GT4 for how it will be for the 992 GT3 in the US - the same hardware as the rest of the world re. PPF filters but no active coating inside them on the mesh. You'll still have the lower noise of EU IMHO.
Crucially though - my understanding is that US spec cars do not have a monitoring sensor. So there is no issue with just getting rid of them.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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Don't know about that, but that would make it easier to swap them out for sure if the standard mapping can cope with the change in back pressure.

Jakob911

82 posts

84 months

Saturday 18th July 2020
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Cheib said:
I was told last week that Porsche have increased production of Taycan because WLTP is causing problems with production of “normal” cars. Porsche GB/OPCs don’t seem to get much info about production delays etc.

Listened to a really good interview with AP recently....he basically said it’s a real fight producing these cars now and not getting easier. We’re approaching the end of an era or maybe already on the downslope. Cars will be faster, have more grip etc but will they excite you on the public road more than anything that’s already been made ? I have my doubts.

What would get me excited is if they went to the old school recipe of making a car as light as possible.
From what i can tell the ability to offer the GT cars like we all want , really depends on their being able to sell Taycan and whatever other EV cars they produce in order to meet the "Fleet averages" prescribed by the EU. Here is the link from the EU laying it all out, I tapped out at page 3 or 4 of the first PDF. https://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/transport/vehi... Better minds than mine can hopefully help the rest of us. I'd love to know how specifically the US cars differ from the EU cars in terms of GPF etc etc