991 Turbo S - Opinions & Thoughts
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Price about right although £75k nearer the mark for a 30k mile decent spec 991 TTS in a good colour.
Bought my similar spec mint FPOSH 66 plate 23k mile TTS end of 2019 for £86k from a Finance Company trade, retail mid £90ks.
My only questions would be the ad says 'currently' showing 2 previous owners. Why?
Private sale apparantly but is the car actually registered to the current seller and for how long has he owned it? Why is he selling it and what items have incurred the recent expenditure? If the car is still registered to the second owner then the seller is probably a dealer if so why isn't he selling from his dealership? Dealer masquerading as a private seller to avoid responsibility perhaps?
Ok slightly cynical perhaps and the car could well stack up but early questions/ due diligence imo always pay dividends when buying these cars.
Bought my similar spec mint FPOSH 66 plate 23k mile TTS end of 2019 for £86k from a Finance Company trade, retail mid £90ks.
My only questions would be the ad says 'currently' showing 2 previous owners. Why?
Private sale apparantly but is the car actually registered to the current seller and for how long has he owned it? Why is he selling it and what items have incurred the recent expenditure? If the car is still registered to the second owner then the seller is probably a dealer if so why isn't he selling from his dealership? Dealer masquerading as a private seller to avoid responsibility perhaps?
Ok slightly cynical perhaps and the car could well stack up but early questions/ due diligence imo always pay dividends when buying these cars.
Porsche911R said:
Terminator X said:
£78k private sale, do people really do that?
TX.
better than SOR sales I can tell you.TX.
Although this ones not going well.
Regards to the owners part, it may be as simple as 2 previous owners on V5, current owner 3rd and whomever buys shall be the 4th...some people get real bubbly about no of owners.
Personally, I would of asked all the questions before striking an agreed price.
If I was the seller and had agreed the deal and price, I would take it as 2nd thoughts or cold feet if the 'buyer' then came back asking more questions; I guess you have to try and assess if the deal will happen and how much time you want to commit just incase it didn't, especially when it seems a reasonable price and should sell quickly.
av185 said:
pistonuser said:
Price agreed... however started asking questions, got very defensive and not willing to sell to me at a price that was agreed...
Very Odd
Let me guess.Very Odd
Private seller actually a dealer so car not registered in his name at his address?
Jakob911 said:
av185 said:
pistonuser said:
Price agreed... however started asking questions, got very defensive and not willing to sell to me at a price that was agreed...
Very Odd
Let me guess.Very Odd
Private seller actually a dealer so car not registered in his name at his address?
Not saying it is definitely the case with this car but in my experience having bought many high end cars from numerous sellers over the years including private sellers there is usually a story behind any car which is advertised as a ''private sale" but the V5 neither matches the vendor nor their address.
The old chestnut of some dealer having used the car for a short time as his 'personal' vehicle therefore not bothered registering it in their name MAY be true but imo invariably it is not and only a moron would ignore this fact and invariably at their ultimate cost.
It is often used as a ploy to evade the ramifications and responsibilities of someone selling a car as a trader which carries far more responsibilities and gives the buyer far more protection should things go pear shaped than with a genuine private sale.
Read CRA 2015 for the differences.
Perhaps the OP could advise if this is the case as various comments he has made has already rung alarm bells. Look forward to his comments.
Interesting also that there has been some reference to the ill conceived presumption that buyers don't mind multi owned cars when this is broadly incorrect and invariably those advocating this fact on a forum are the first ones to demand as few owners as possible for their purchases.
:As we have seen time and time again buyers generally will always pay more for as few owners as possible. My Cobalt TTS was a 1 owner car and accordingly I paid more for it relative to others which were up to 4 owners. I and many others would not touch a 2017 car with 4 owners unless it was cheap.
av185 said:
Jakob911 said:
av185 said:
pistonuser said:
Price agreed... however started asking questions, got very defensive and not willing to sell to me at a price that was agreed...
Very Odd
Let me guess.Very Odd
Private seller actually a dealer so car not registered in his name at his address?
Not saying it is definitely the case with this car but in my experience having bought many high end cars from numerous sellers over the years including private sellers there is usually a story behind any car which is advertised as a ''private sale" but the V5 neither matches the vendor nor their address.
The old chestnut of some dealer having used the car for a short time as his 'personal' vehicle therefore not bothered registering it in their name MAY be true but imo invariably it is not and only a moron would ignore this fact and invariably at their ultimate cost.
It is often used as a ploy to evade the ramifications and responsibilities of someone selling a car as a trader which carries far more responsibilities and gives the buyer far more protection should things go pear shaped than with a genuine private sale.
Read CRA 2015 for the differences.
Perhaps the OP could advise if this is the case as various comments he has made has already rung alarm bells. Look forward to his comments.
Interesting also that there has been some reference to the ill conceived presumption that buyers don't mind multi owned cars when this is broadly incorrect and invariably those advocating this fact on a forum are the first ones to demand as few owners as possible for their purchases.
:As we have seen time and time again buyers generally will always pay more for as few owners as possible. My Cobalt TTS was a 1 owner car and accordingly I paid more for it relative to others which were up to 4 owners. I and many others would not touch a 2017 car with 4 owners unless it was cheap.
I’m not confusing it , I’m highlighting where the current UK V5 system doesn’t show who actually owns the vehicle. If it did there would be no debate over ability to sell.
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