Is this 997 gt3 a cs or not?

[anonymous-user]

this one caught my eye

https://www.sytner.co.uk/bmw/car-search/11896018-1...

is it a non cs but with buckets and ceramics or is it a cs with the cage removed? i ask because there are plates in the rear compartment

and whats the deal with the splitter?

you gotta love cobalt blue (no bias of course)

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 1st October 10:40

[D.no]

Those plates in the rear are non-standard - the clubsport cage doesn't need those as it bolts directly to the strut tops. The rear carpet panel would have cutouts for the cage if it were a CS. I suspect it is non-CS but with buckets.

The front splitter is the CUP one. It's slighty less expensive to replace, and I believe is made from a slightly more flexible compound (but may be wrong on this as I've never actually had a play with one).

[Cheib]

My guess is a CS with the cage removed but I don’t know these cars that well. I think that’s a Cup splitter....it’s made of a heavy duty rubber so lasts a lot longer Than the standard one if you are using the car on track and hitting kerbs. A 997.2 GT3 RS I looked at a couple of years ago had one fitted.

[D.no]

Forgot to say that the plates for the cage that denote a CS car are the welded-in floor-mount ones in the rear footwells.

[anonymous-user]

D.no said:

Those plates in the rear are non-standard - the clubsport cage doesn't need those as it bolts directly to the strut tops. The rear carpet panel would have cutouts for the cage if it were a CS. I suspect it is non-CS but with buckets.

The front splitter is the CUP one. It's slighty less expensive to replace, and I believe is made from a slightly more flexible compound (but may be wrong on this as I've never actually had a play with one).

excellent intel thanks

[D.no]

Having looked again, those plates could be blanking plates to cover the holes in the carpet panel left behind by the removal of a cage - they wouldn't be needed as mounting plates, so must be cosmetic. The lack of extended leather would also be be more consummate with a CS spec' (but not a guarantee). Only real way of knowing is to pick up the phone...

[anonymous-user]

i have one so am not buying but i was curious

[Digga]

RC1 said:

i have one so am not buying but i was curious

Lovely looking car isn't it?

AFIK the wheel colour, nice as it is, is non-standard, but very fetching. Something I'd always wondered - what would graphite wheels look like on a 997.1 GT3. Answer seems to be absolutely ace.

There was a Sapphire blue GT3 CS went into the JZM showroom, identical price and mileage to my own car, in place of mine when I bought it. I wonder....

[anonymous-user]

yep i thought the same about the wheels too... if i only i wasnt such a purist. ill wait until the car becomes warranty ineligible before i mod the hell out of it

[Cunno]

I'd say CS based on the door cards. CS have different door cards and this car has correct ones for a CS, so I'm thinking cage has been removed.
If anyone is interested I'd ask where the cages is as if you can find 1 the last one I saw for sale was £3.5k. FVD do a nice copy for £1.5k but not the real thing.

Splitter is a Cup splitter with air ducts, creates extra down force (10kg) made of thinner plastic and finish is not as good as normal splitter. Motorsport part so cheaper, main thing to note is they are deeper than standard splitters so catch a lot more.

[rrroro]

It's a Sytner "Select" sale, so that would prick up my ears a bit. I can't remember the exact difference between Select and normal Sytner, but I think it's because the car wouldn't qualify as an approved used car for some reason. I'm not saying there is anything wrong per se, but I'd be checking things like if it's in a CAT category, number of owners, incomplete history, stuff like that. The car's factory options list will tell you if it's a real Clubsport or not, I think the code was 003 from memory

[GT4RS]

Something doesn’t look correct about this car.

[Slippydiff]

It looks like it's been well used (not a bad thing) but possibly had a hard life.

PPi required along with a report on PCCB's and rev range log interrogation.
Decent spec, shame about the missing cage.

[Yellow491]

Slippydiff said:

It looks like it's been well used (not a bad thing) but possibly had a hard life.

PPi required along with a report on PCCB's and rev range log interrogation.
Decent spec, shame about the missing cage.

Might have been owned by a brummy also slippy

[Digga]

Yellow491 said:

Slippydiff said:

It looks like it's been well used (not a bad thing) but possibly had a hard life.

PPi required along with a report on PCCB's and rev range log interrogation.
Decent spec, shame about the missing cage.

Might have been owned by a brummy also slippy

You'll be able to see all the hammer dents in the engine bay if that's the case.

[Cunno]

That explains it, I was told at a young age never buy cars in Birmingham or Bradford!!!

[Slippydiff]

Yellow491 said:

Might have been owned by a brummy also slippy

So true Paul

[SFO]

Cunno said:

I'd say CS based on the door cards. CS have different door cards and this car has correct ones for a CS, so I'm thinking cage has been removed.

The extra padding on the lower door panels is because of the Carrera GT buckets, which have no side air bags.

So the seats are most likely OEM.

[Slippydiff]

Cunno said:

That explains it, I was told at a young age never buy cars in Birmingham or Bradford!!!

Apparently West Yorks is a real den of iniquity when it comes to buying cars So you best add Leeds, Halifax, Wakefield and Huddersfield to Bradford John

Edited by Slippydiff on Friday 2nd October 14:06

[Cunno]

Slippydiff said:

Apparently West Yorks is a real den of iniquity when it comes to buying cars So you best add Leeds, Halifax, Wakefield and Huddersfield to Bradford John

Edited by Slippydiff on Friday 2nd October 14:06

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Yep and I live in the middle of all that, you don’t fancy a 997.1 GT3 never rallied or raced?

Edited by Cunno on Friday 2nd October 16:53