997.2 or something else...
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Hey guys,
Recently sold our RX7 FD as our two kids can't fit in the back. Have my heart set on a 997.2 S but an old club member just sugested a Lotus Evora S. All the reviews seem to be the base 997 vs the Evora S where the 911 seems the better car but the lotus the better Sports car.
Just wondered if anyone has tried one along side their 911?
Recently sold our RX7 FD as our two kids can't fit in the back. Have my heart set on a 997.2 S but an old club member just sugested a Lotus Evora S. All the reviews seem to be the base 997 vs the Evora S where the 911 seems the better car but the lotus the better Sports car.
Just wondered if anyone has tried one along side their 911?
Test drove both an Evora and a 997.2 two years ago when moving on from my Elise Cup.
Two very different cars as you would expect.
In my case i was't really taken with the Evora (i don't need the rear seats which makes a difference), it just felt like a bigger Exige to me and less nimble because of it.
997 (to me) was a much better car and for the same money as a four/five year old Exige/Evora i bought one of the last of the 997s (eight years old) and it came with a two year warranty (bought from Porsche dealer) which is more than I got with a brand new Elise.
It does some things that you need to get used to - especially the front end moving around, but a superb bit of kit.
Build quality puts pretty much everything i had ever driven before to shame.
Decent amount of room in the rear seats (can get an adult in for short trips) which i suspect you need, not much room in the back of an Evora.
Whatever you decide, enjoy the new car.
Two very different cars as you would expect.
In my case i was't really taken with the Evora (i don't need the rear seats which makes a difference), it just felt like a bigger Exige to me and less nimble because of it.
997 (to me) was a much better car and for the same money as a four/five year old Exige/Evora i bought one of the last of the 997s (eight years old) and it came with a two year warranty (bought from Porsche dealer) which is more than I got with a brand new Elise.
It does some things that you need to get used to - especially the front end moving around, but a superb bit of kit.
Build quality puts pretty much everything i had ever driven before to shame.
Decent amount of room in the rear seats (can get an adult in for short trips) which i suspect you need, not much room in the back of an Evora.
Whatever you decide, enjoy the new car.
Thanks, thats really helpful. This is the most I have ever spent on the car and nervous of making the wrong call. After years of driving 90's Japanese sports cars and getting into the modding scene I just want something I can just jump in and drive that feels special.
More room in the 911 is a massive point, it would be greant to be able thow a couple of bags in the frunk and take the family to the Spa 24hr for example.
My fear over the Lotus was it would feel a bit like the Tuscan I used to own, whilst loads of fun there was always a little niggle to sort, or a bit of trim would rattle/squeak
More room in the 911 is a massive point, it would be greant to be able thow a couple of bags in the frunk and take the family to the Spa 24hr for example.
My fear over the Lotus was it would feel a bit like the Tuscan I used to own, whilst loads of fun there was always a little niggle to sort, or a bit of trim would rattle/squeak
Daston said:
My fear over the Lotus was it would feel a bit like the Tuscan I used to own, whilst loads of fun there was always a little niggle to sort, or a bit of trim would rattle/squeak
If that's a worry for you, lean heavily towards the 911. All cars have their issues and 911's are no different, but they have a feeling of integrity which none of the Lotus's I've owned could come close to. Niggles were a dominant feature of Lotus ownership for me.I also find 911's better to drive.
tonyg58 said:
Test drove both an Evora and a 997.2 two years ago when moving on from my Elise Cup.
Two very different cars as you would expect.
In my case i was't really taken with the Evora (i don't need the rear seats which makes a difference), it just felt like a bigger Exige to me and less nimble because of it.
997 (to me) was a much better car and for the same money as a four/five year old Exige/Evora i bought one of the last of the 997s (eight years old) and it came with a two year warranty (bought from Porsche dealer) which is more than I got with a brand new Elise.
It does some things that you need to get used to - especially the front end moving around, but a superb bit of kit.
Build quality puts pretty much everything i had ever driven before to shame.
Decent amount of room in the rear seats (can get an adult in for short trips) which i suspect you need, not much room in the back of an Evora.
Whatever you decide, enjoy the new car.
Just wondering ...did you buy the grey one from Porsche Glasgow , sept 18. CheersTwo very different cars as you would expect.
In my case i was't really taken with the Evora (i don't need the rear seats which makes a difference), it just felt like a bigger Exige to me and less nimble because of it.
997 (to me) was a much better car and for the same money as a four/five year old Exige/Evora i bought one of the last of the 997s (eight years old) and it came with a two year warranty (bought from Porsche dealer) which is more than I got with a brand new Elise.
It does some things that you need to get used to - especially the front end moving around, but a superb bit of kit.
Build quality puts pretty much everything i had ever driven before to shame.
Decent amount of room in the rear seats (can get an adult in for short trips) which i suspect you need, not much room in the back of an Evora.
Whatever you decide, enjoy the new car.
sounds like the 911 is the one to go for. How do they fair with tin worm? Was always a constant worry of mine with previous cars. Hear things like the coolamt lines can fail.No sign at all of rust on my one (or any i've seen TBH)
Some reading here -
https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-buying-gui...
One of the jobs i'm always doing is clearing the muck and leaves out of the front radiators which is one thing that can cause problems.
Needs perserverance,little hands and a vacuum cleaner.
Some reading here -
https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-buying-gui...
One of the jobs i'm always doing is clearing the muck and leaves out of the front radiators which is one thing that can cause problems.
Needs perserverance,little hands and a vacuum cleaner.
In terms of rust, yes they do, but no more so than most cars. Typically this is the non body parts - anything on the underside attached to the body is normal powder coating and all of those components rust. Underneath all the plastic trims, rust creeps in to the seams on the bottoms of the sills etc and they begin to go. And the inner arches trap crud and can spark corrosion. And yes, brake lines, radiator mounts and everything else corrodes, as it does on every other car. No car is immune from salt.
I bought a three year old 997.2 PDK in Nov 2011 from a Porsche dealer in London. Its been parked outside my house in South West London ever since and I drive it every day. I haven't had any issues with it at all. Drove to France twice on holiday with kids in the back. Every now and then and I look at replacing it but nothing out there seems any better. I still can't wait to get behind the wheel.
Daston said:
More room in the 911 is a massive point, it would be greant to be able thow a couple of bags in the frunk and take the family to the Spa 24hr for example.
It is amazing what you can get into a 997. I remember when the 7-series hotel limo needed to use the passenger seat for one of our trolleys as it did not fit into the boot with the rest of our bags. All that went perfectly into the 997, using frunk, back seats and shelfGo for it
Daston said:
More room in the 911 is a massive point, it would be greant to be able thow a couple of bags in the frunk and take the family to the Spa 24hr for example.
There is a reasonable amount of room in the back of a 997 but it would be very cosy for kids on a journey the length of a trip to Spa. That said I loved using my 911 for more local family transport (an hour or so is the most I subjected my kids to in my 964)997.2 are great cars.
Components can and do rust underneath, suspension parts, heat shields, every bracket etc. Definitely asking what has been replaced when you look at any car. My mate had a quote for £3k from OPC, independent did the work for £1.5k.
Don't discount a 3.6 manual, brilliant engine and not a lot in it for real world performance on the road.
PASM / lowered suspension a must though, if only for the slightly hunkered down looks. PSE also makes a difference to the whole experience.
Components can and do rust underneath, suspension parts, heat shields, every bracket etc. Definitely asking what has been replaced when you look at any car. My mate had a quote for £3k from OPC, independent did the work for £1.5k.
Don't discount a 3.6 manual, brilliant engine and not a lot in it for real world performance on the road.
PASM / lowered suspension a must though, if only for the slightly hunkered down looks. PSE also makes a difference to the whole experience.
I'd add a 991 to that list. So close in price all I can say is it has way more performance than a 997 C2S and more noise too. When I took 991 C2S for a drive other than inert steering I could t believe how fast it was. Some people prefer less feedback through steering wheel. Its certainly more refined and precise the steering in term of putting the car where you want. Having said that. An Evora 400 in black is a very nice thing but its looks are really spec dependent.
IMI A said:
I'd add a 991 to that list. So close in price all I can say is it has way more performance than a 997 C2S and more noise too. When I took 991 C2S for a drive other than inert steering I could t believe how fast it was. Some people prefer less feedback through steering wheel. Its certainly more refined and precise the steering in term of putting the car where you want. Having said that. An Evora 400 in black is a very nice thing but its looks are really spec dependent.
I'm currently looking for an older 911 that I can fettle with. I'm put off the 991 as the steering was so poor compared to the 997. Any issues with the 997 you can tweak and fix, I'm not sure you can ever fix the utter lack of feel in an early 991.
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