Wheeler Dealers - 997 - Hartech rebuild
Wheeler Dealers - 997 - Hartech rebuild
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Mankers

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657 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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Thought I’ve seen most Wheeler Dealer episodes…not this one…stumbled on this 997 with bore scoring episode. Interesting for those with M96/97 engines. Shows the Hartech rebuild process in detail.

https://youtu.be/uiT_1cOIgw0




julian987R

6,840 posts

75 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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Thanks for sharing.
Is it me or is thing a bit off about those Fuchs? I do love Fuchs but those seem a bit odd looking to me.

Mankers

Original Poster:

657 posts

185 months

Thursday 14th October 2021
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Yea the wheels don’t look right, styling is a bit gash, and false enthusiasm for the protect a bit cringey track side. Rebuild is interesting though

Haribo Lecter

949 posts

243 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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julian987R said:
Thanks for sharing.
Is it me or is thing a bit off about those Fuchs? I do love Fuchs but those seem a bit odd looking to me.
I think it’s because the whole center is one colour, rather than having the protruding part of the spokes being black.

mr pg

2,017 posts

221 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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They're Fuchs replicas, not the realthing.

olv

383 posts

231 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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When did Elvis join? biggrin He's great.

Really interesting seeing the machining, thanks for sharing.

dgswk

936 posts

110 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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I've just moved my 992 on after 2 and a bit years of ownership; lots of reasons; limited space due to large scale house renovation project (couldnt handle a roof tile landing on it), the market means I got back 98% of what I paid for it new and having now joined the EV congregation for a daily, my straight line need for speed has been fulfilled. I stopped getting driving thrills from the 992.

Why post on this thread? I'm in three different places - I've left a deposit on a 992-T (if one ever comes out - and by which time house should be done with new garaging), or poverty pork - Boxster - to slowly renew and refresh over a couple of years, or 997 'backdate' as really I want a 911 but something a bit more involving than the 992 where straightline speed no longer matters.

I watched this episode with great interest, and yeah, a bit too much enthusiasm, but found the Hartech bit fascinating. Overall, I'd probably like to do something very similar, normal .1 C2 - dark colour, suspension refresh, duck tail, reupholster seat centres in houndstooth, pop some updated PCM in (ideally the Porsche one when its out), a bit of alcantara on the steering wheen and box gaiter and get a nice paint job done on some lobster alloys (yes I like them). Over time, get it upgraded to a 3.9l with a raspy exhaust / induction kit. Keeper.



olv

383 posts

231 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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anonymous said:
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Haha biggrin

Slippydiff

15,657 posts

239 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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dgswk said:
Overall, I'd probably like to do something very similar, normal .1 C2 - dark colour, suspension refresh, duck tail, reupholster seat centres in houndstooth, pop some updated PCM in (ideally the Porsche one when its out), a bit of alcantara on the steering wheen and box gaiter and get a nice paint job done on some lobster alloys (yes I like them). Over time, get it upgraded to a 3.9l with a raspy exhaust / induction kit. Keeper.
I’m with you on all the above, except for the updated PCM. I’ve become a real fan of this look :





Introduces a much more modern, less cluttered/fussy look to the 997/987 model dash.

And with all the apps available on modern smart phones, there seems little point in having a PCM unit, or indeed any aftermarket dash unit that will date, and/or need upgrading in the future.

Oh, and I’m afraid I don’t share the passion for the lobsterclaw wheels. Sorry getmecoat

Lastmin

91 posts

226 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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I maybe wrong but when i was watching that episode i put the vrm into the mot tracker, doesn't add up.

Lastmin

91 posts

226 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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PE56 YBA

MOT expired in 2015 would have assumed they would have MOT it prior to selling or as part of the process.

I used to have a 996 model and did enjoy the episode as had always worried about the same issue on my car.

dgswk

936 posts

110 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Slippydiff said:
I’m with you on all the above, except for the updated PCM. I’ve become a real fan of this look :

Introduces a much more modern, less cluttered/fussy look to the 997/987 model dash.

And with all the apps available on modern smart phones, there seems little point in having a PCM unit, or indeed any aftermarket dash unit that will date, and/or need upgrading in the future.

Oh, and I’m afraid I don’t share the passion for the lobsterclaw wheels. Sorry getmecoat
yeah, do like the idea of a PCM delete too, especially as a weekend only car.

Lobsters??? cloud9hehe



2017 thread added: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by dgswk on Friday 15th October 12:08

g7jhp

7,017 posts

254 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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The cost of the wheels and ducktail seemed cheap. The engine work was obviously less labour.



Mankers

Original Poster:

657 posts

185 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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anonymous said:
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Yea, it was Elvis’s mate up north smile I somehow knew what was coming after that….a trip to Hartech

Jamie Summers

416 posts

267 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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mr pg said:
They're Fuchs replicas, not the realthing.
They look very much like the Group 4 Fuchs replicas that I have on my 996. I think they look great as the rears have proper dish to them, which was always the appeal of Fuchs wheels (to me anyway !). They are quite colour-sensitive and look better in darker shades - also look better with an appropriate non off-road ride height ! (Price is about right, though I suspect all of the figures are ex-VAT)

S600BSB

6,669 posts

122 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Has Elvis replaced Ant (who replaced Ed)?

IMI A

9,901 posts

217 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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Is there a new PCM going out for 997 with apple car play etc yet? I know there is one for 996 and I heard one maybe on the way for 997 too...

This WD car shows what a brill base 997 is for a Saville Row type project. There will be many more I bet looks fab with Carrera Script and Fuchs Style wheels. Non Porsche person could never tell the difference between them and OEM Sport Classics.

Hartech show off British engineering skills brill. I wish I had a 997 Gen 1 C4S with no engine lol!

Yidwann

1,872 posts

226 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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dgswk said:
I've just moved my 992 on after 2 and a bit years of ownership; lots of reasons; limited space due to large scale house renovation project (couldnt handle a roof tile landing on it), the market means I got back 98% of what I paid for it new and having now joined the EV congregation for a daily, my straight line need for speed has been fulfilled. I stopped getting driving thrills from the 992.

Why post on this thread? I'm in three different places - I've left a deposit on a 992-T (if one ever comes out - and by which time house should be done with new garaging), or poverty pork - Boxster - to slowly renew and refresh over a couple of years, or 997 'backdate' as really I want a 911 but something a bit more involving than the 992 where straightline speed no longer matters.

I watched this episode with great interest, and yeah, a bit too much enthusiasm, but found the Hartech bit fascinating. Overall, I'd probably like to do something very similar, normal .1 C2 - dark colour, suspension refresh, duck tail, reupholster seat centres in houndstooth, pop some updated PCM in (ideally the Porsche one when its out), a bit of alcantara on the steering wheen and box gaiter and get a nice paint job done on some lobster alloys (yes I like them). Over time, get it upgraded to a 3.9l with a raspy exhaust / induction kit. Keeper.
You have basically described what I am looking to do.... just trying to find a sub 20k 2S now.... although if going for the 3.9 Hartech option..... Finding just a base Carrera would be ok too.... want a PASM free car too.

ATM

19,968 posts

235 months

Friday 15th October 2021
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They said 3500 towards the end for the rebuild with new liners and 'recoated' pistons. That sounds very cheap. I'm tempted to have a go at building one myself for that money. How hard can it be?

Pickled Piper

6,441 posts

251 months

Saturday 16th October 2021
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Mankers said:
anonymous said:
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Yea, it was Elvis’s mate up north smile I somehow knew what was coming after that….a trip to Hartech
Elvis knows no bounds. In another episode he just saunters into Swift tune and borrows their kit to modify a mini head. He apparently knows everyone!