992 Carrera Speccing

[gregd]

I've been speaking to my OPC about putting a deposit down for the rumoured 992 Carrera T which they are happy to do. Should one not materialise it sounds like I can spec a regular Carrera or S instead using the same slot as and when I get fed up waiting for an announcement.. Just been playing with the configurator and, whilst I would prefer a manual T, I would probably have to settle for a base Carrera Auto rather than a manual S considering the cost of options. Any thoughts on the spec below would be great? Am I missing any essentials (folding mirrors, power steering plus etc)?

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNYA37M4

I was torn between the side Porsche logo in black or silver. Not seen any pics of this on Aventurine. Similarly I'm not sure if I should have gone with Chrome surrounds for the windows and sports exhaust to tie in with the silver Porsche side logo.. Finally I thought about saving myself £900 and opting for the Carrera Classic Wheels instead of the RS Spyder design.. Don't even get me started on the interior.. will I find black with Crayon stitching too dingy and boring.. would Truffle Brown be OTT (it maybe suits a silver or grey car more IMHO)?

[ClubsportStr]

Carrera T announcement expected in November so not long to wait. What delivery did they quote ?

[gregd]

ClubsportStr said:

Carrera T announcement expected in November so not long to wait. What delivery did they quote ?

They are vague on lead time but I’d be near the front of the queue on. T apparently.

[EC2]

I'm keen on AG too but am yet to see it on a car. Sports chrono is pointless unless you want to do standing starts which - given you have to sit there like a knob with the throttle open - is something that will wear off appeal wise. Ditto sports exhaust as these cars do not sound anywhere near as nice as anything with a large engine that is pre Euro 6 so the aural enhancement is minor. All IMHO. Also no lumbar on either seat style unless fully electric.

[julian987R]

gregd said:

ClubsportStr said:

Carrera T announcement expected in November so not long to wait. What delivery did they quote ?

They are vague on lead time but I’d be near the front of the queue on. T apparently.

For the sake of a month? you can’t wait that long? relax and have a decaf… you seem unnecessarily stressed out.

[EC2]

I thought that orders were for specific models of 911 so, say, the wait for a Carrera and a Carrera S could be very different depending on how many orders any given dealer has for each? Hopefully allocation for 2022 will be released soon together with the T announcement now that the GTS has been through the launch phase. Plain Carrera for me mind as that is enough.

[beedj]

EC2 said:

I'm keen on AG too but am yet to see it on a car. Sports chrono is pointless unless you want to do standing starts which - given you have to sit there like a knob with the throttle open - is something that will wear off appeal wise. Ditto sports exhaust as these cars do not sound anywhere near as nice as anything with a large engine that is pre Euro 6 so the aural enhancement is minor. All IMHO. Also no lumbar on either seat style unless fully electric.

Not sure about other variants but C2S has launch control without Sports Chrono (tho I think revs to 4K not 5k). I didn’t miss SC on mine and had no problem whatsoever on resale without it

I has Sports exhaust on mine, the enhancement was a lot more than minor imho. I've specced it on my new C2S on order

[EC2]

beedj said:

EC2 said:

I'm keen on AG too but am yet to see it on a car. Sports chrono is pointless unless you want to do standing starts which - given you have to sit there like a knob with the throttle open - is something that will wear off appeal wise. Ditto sports exhaust as these cars do not sound anywhere near as nice as anything with a large engine that is pre Euro 6 so the aural enhancement is minor. All IMHO. Also no lumbar on either seat style unless fully electric.

Not sure about other variants but C2S has launch control without Sports Chrono (tho I think revs to 4K not 5k). I didn’t miss SC on mine and had no problem whatsoever on resale without it

I has Sports exhaust on mine, the enhancement was a lot more than minor imho. I've specced it on my new C2S on order

I just don’t get the point of launch control other than bragging rights. I’ve not ordered SC so will see what I get. On the 992 it is easy to select the various suspension/gearbox/engine mode options as you will know.

I test drove a 911 with sports exhaust and was not impressed. Mind I am coming from a Maserati Granturismo with the switchable exhaust so most cars sound electric in comparison. This even includes the Cayman 4.0 GTS which was ok at best, relatively speaking.

[gregd]

julian987R said:

gregd said:

ClubsportStr said:

Carrera T announcement expected in November so not long to wait. What delivery did they quote ?

They are vague on lead time but I’d be near the front of the queue on. T apparently.

For the sake of a month? you can’t wait that long? relax and have a decaf… you seem unnecessarily stressed out.

😀Not stressed at all but if there is no T announced by Q1 next year I may want to look at another option. The fact the 991 T only arrived late in the second generation model cycle means a new one might still be some time away.

[dgswk]

gregd said:

I've been speaking to my OPC about putting a deposit down for the rumoured 992 Carrera T which they are happy to do. Should one not materialise it sounds like I can spec a regular Carrera or S instead using the same slot as and when I get fed up waiting for an announcement.. Just been playing with the configurator and, whilst I would prefer a manual T, I would probably have to settle for a base Carrera Auto rather than a manual S considering the cost of options. Any thoughts on the spec below would be great? Am I missing any essentials (folding mirrors, power steering plus etc)?

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNYA37M4

I was torn between the side Porsche logo in black or silver. Not seen any pics of this on Aventurine. Similarly I'm not sure if I should have gone with Chrome surrounds for the windows and sports exhaust to tie in with the silver Porsche side logo.. Finally I thought about saving myself £900 and opting for the Carrera Classic Wheels instead of the RS Spyder design.. Don't even get me started on the interior.. will I find black with Crayon stitching too dingy and boring.. would Truffle Brown be OTT (it maybe suits a silver or grey car more IMHO)?

I'm in exactly the same position, just let go of my 992 C2S for not far off what I paid for it, and a tentative £5k deposit left for a T. Deposit will get shifted to another S or GTS if the T does not materialise. In reality, if there is no T, and the C2 does not get a manual option, I'll go the 997 backdate route in the spring. I have a fast-ish EV in the stable now, so balls out acceleration is catered for, I just dont need the -S or the -GTS.

C2S is a fabulous car, haven't regretted a minute of it. But I'm being patient and giving them until March to release a T.

Oh - and options?
- Check out the Sportex+Crayon sports plus seats, awesome in the flesh with a slightly retro feel.
- It it was my normal C2, I wouldn't bother with Chrono, barely used it on my -S and its a lot of money
- I'd stick with normal wheels on a C2, the slightly smaller rims to me are a benefit
- Yeah, I'd have folding mirrors
- If your going with a subtle colour, I'd leave the graphics alone; guards red? yeah go for it with some red seatbelts too

[Iknownothin]

Just to add another opinion on SC,l. I wasn't going to spec it but it's one of those options that if you've never had you won't miss, if you've had it you won't want to drive a 992 without it. It add Sport+, sport response and dynamic engine mounts as well as the toggle wheel which I used all the time. The car in Sport+ has much more edge to it, the gearbox in particular really livens up. Launch control I never used but that's not the point of the package.

[cervezaman]

Iknownothin said:

Just to add another opinion on SC,l. I wasn't going to spec it but it's one of those options that if you've never had you won't miss, if you've had it you won't want to drive a 992 without it. It add Sport+, sport response and dynamic engine mounts as well as the toggle wheel which I used all the time. The car in Sport+ has much more edge to it, the gearbox in particular really livens up. Launch control I never used but that's not the point of the package.

100% agree with this. Never launch it but it makes it far more aggressive on performance/ gear change.

[politeperson]

I would spec no options whatsoever apart from your color. Just about zero anyway. They are just fine out of the box.

Sportex is nice with chalk stitching (I suppose, because I have it)

My adventurine green C2 is now up to 25,000 miles. 0-60 is a solid 3.5 seconds on the draggy app. No silly mode buttons to press.

The most annoying option some owners chose is a free implant that rewires your brain causing uncontrolled use of Porsche acronyms that guarantee you will never be invited to a dinner party ever again in your life. Many of these are for quite expensive and ultimately useless features.

Avoid using all of them including PSE, S/C, PTS, OBD, PCCB, ALP, PPF, PCM, RWS, SPASM, PCCB, PDK, LSDL, and a whole host of others.

Try to avoid getting your leg taken up with options.

As far as depreciation and option choice goes dont worry about that either, as if my car has gone up in value since it was new- with no options- who cares about embossed headrests for £900.

I guess if you picked bright pink bodywork with a luminous green interior and yellow seat belts, that might affect the market for you car somewhat when you came to sell it and hence its value.

Good luck!

[Desert Dragon]

Less is more 100%

[ClubsportStr]

Desert Dragon said:

Less is more 100%

Spec the car for you and your needs and wants not what it should have for resale. Extras are only worth it if you use them more than 70% of the time. Spec it to sell if you are going to flip it after delivery. If you are not sure about one option try and drive cars with and without the option to help you decide. Harder than it was now there is limit stock and demo cars are sold as soon as they are delivered and dealers are reluctant to use them in case they upset the new owner.

Good luck and enjoy the experience instead of worrying about if you are speccing the right options . You rarely get the cost of options back at resale anyway. And for those who say you never be able to sell it . They are living in the old world with all the car sites out there you will be able to off load it if you want to . WBAC don’t even take options into account on their valuations and in the pass year have been offering better prices than most for Porsches , there are plenty of examples of this on other pistonheads threads.

Edited by ClubsportStr on Sunday 31st October 09:52

Edited by ClubsportStr on Sunday 31st October 09:53

[mw300]

Had a 992 c2 for 15 months, which I ordered from new and sold in January. Had about £6,500 of options which isn’t bare bones but not highly specced either

If I were to order another one I’d spend even less on options:
- sports seats plus (4 way) - not a lot of money for a lot more comfort
- plain black or gt silver (good for resale, gt silver easy to keep clean)
- black leather with black stitching (white stitching looks cheap to me). Could also consider red/black leather. Avoid beige as too easily marked.
- seat ventilation (what an amazing feature)
- auto-dimming mirrors (unless you’re never in traffic at night)
- ACC but only if you spend a lot of time on busy roads as it’s expensive
- and maybe just maybe dark red seat belts to liven it up & coloured wheel centres. These are two cheap options that make it just a bit more interesting

As a few people said already - less is more. The above minimises depreciation and makes for an easy to sell car.

Bose is poor, sunroof pointless, big wheels just more road noise, sports exhaust pointless on turbo engine, electric folding mirrors more likely to be damaged if hit by someone (happened to me and the standard one just moved out of the way), sport chrono just a toy the dealers are pushing.

Got bored of the car eventually and swapped to a 997.2 manual which is far more engaging. 992 (at least pdk) feels too much like being in a video game. Might consider a 992 T in the future as it could be cheap motoring due to limited depreciation. Only lost 5k on the 992 despite 8.5k miles…

[mw300]

Here’s what I’d order if I were to do it again. Maybe even without the ACC. Didn’t realise auto dimming mirrors are finally free of charge. How generous!

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNDSEWC2

[politeperson]

Just found this lot this morning.

PDLS+, PADM, LCA, PCCB

I say WTF?

[gregd]

Thanks for all the replies guys.. you are super helpful! I think I have decided on the following.. http://www.porsche-code.com/PN55WAH1

As per the original post my deposit is ideally for a Carrera T but should one not be forthcoming I would be delighted with the above spec (which is submitted to secure a build slot). Oddly this is quite a long way from T spec (for starters I'd have a manual T). I hear what you say about Sport Chrono and Sports exhaust.. For me they are there for the looks as much as anything as this car will be a keeper. Truffle brown will definitely divide opinion. I am still tempted to change the interior and go for Sport-Tex with Crayon stitching and a Race-Tex wheel. I definitely like all aspects of the exterior spec though.

The following sold me on this spec (although I note this one has wood and alcantara headlining which is a bit too far for me) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ed7UsNTAz4&t=...

[politeperson]

I think you will find he hung the mic next to the exhaust pipe Greg. I did that once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5YtHJPdKik