Potential 991.2 GT3 purchase question
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My 992 GT3 order was cancelled by Porsche after the summer craziness (delivery was originally June, then delayed to September and then Porsche just cancelled the slot!) And my OPC has had zero allocation since). So I'm thinking I might try and buy a nice 991.2.
Does anybody know what OPCs are bidding on these cars at the moment? There are quite a few nice cars that have been in dealers for a while, so just wondering how flexible they might be on pricing. There is a chance that my 992 allocation might come through for next year so if that happens not looking to loose a wad of chase if I'm then swapping the 991. But more than likely I'll stick with the 991 long term.
Does anybody know what OPCs are bidding on these cars at the moment? There are quite a few nice cars that have been in dealers for a while, so just wondering how flexible they might be on pricing. There is a chance that my 992 allocation might come through for next year so if that happens not looking to loose a wad of chase if I'm then swapping the 991. But more than likely I'll stick with the 991 long term.
What ever you see for sale at retail in a opc I would be allowing less 20k for your trade bid over the next 6 months.
They will want a minimum of 15k out of a car like that and if they are giving you a 992 gt3 slot they will have your pants down further.
991.2 gt3 seem to be sticking at their current retail pricing.
Ashgood seem to price gt cars to sell, might be worth keeping an eye on their retail pricing rather than the likes of JZM who are SOR stock.
They will want a minimum of 15k out of a car like that and if they are giving you a 992 gt3 slot they will have your pants down further.
991.2 gt3 seem to be sticking at their current retail pricing.
Ashgood seem to price gt cars to sell, might be worth keeping an eye on their retail pricing rather than the likes of JZM who are SOR stock.
Winter is almost upon us, as frustrating as it is I’d sit tight and hold out for an allocation unless they are saying there are zero coming next year. I’ve been in similar positions before but when you start looking at the options and you wish list of options there is always at compromise at an inflated price.
DMC2 said:
My 992 GT3 order was cancelled by Porsche after the summer craziness (delivery was originally June, then delayed to September and then Porsche just cancelled the slot!) And my OPC has had zero allocation since). So I'm thinking I might try and buy a nice 991.2.
Does anybody know what OPCs are bidding on these cars at the moment? There are quite a few nice cars that have been in dealers for a while, so just wondering how flexible they might be on pricing. There is a chance that my 992 allocation might come through for next year so if that happens not looking to loose a wad of chase if I'm then swapping the 991. But more than likely I'll stick with the 991 long term.
I have just had a very interesting conversation with 3 opc's.Does anybody know what OPCs are bidding on these cars at the moment? There are quite a few nice cars that have been in dealers for a while, so just wondering how flexible they might be on pricing. There is a chance that my 992 allocation might come through for next year so if that happens not looking to loose a wad of chase if I'm then swapping the 991. But more than likely I'll stick with the 991 long term.
None looking to buy gt products a the moment.911s of any sort are not selling at all and enquiries for them have dropped enormously.
They expect the GT market to bounce back in spring ,but were not so optimistic about other 911 models.
I’m surprised about that.
Not that the market is feeling the squeeze - that’s a given.
Rather that they were admitting it.
My experience with OPCs, although mainly good, is that they try to talk the market up when you’re buying or enquiring. It’s when you try to sell or part-ex that you normally get the true picture.
In the present climate they won’t want to have too much tied up in stock.
Maybe SOR will make a comeback. Zero risk.
Not that the market is feeling the squeeze - that’s a given.
Rather that they were admitting it.
My experience with OPCs, although mainly good, is that they try to talk the market up when you’re buying or enquiring. It’s when you try to sell or part-ex that you normally get the true picture.
In the present climate they won’t want to have too much tied up in stock.
Maybe SOR will make a comeback. Zero risk.
Koln-RS said:
I’m surprised about that.
Not that the market is feeling the squeeze - that’s a given.
Rather that they were admitting it.
My experience with OPCs, although mainly good, is that they try to talk the market up when you’re buying or enquiring. It’s when you try to sell or part-ex that you normally get the true picture.
In the present climate they won’t want to have too much tied up in stock.
Maybe SOR will make a comeback. Zero risk.
One of them was very blunt saying they’ve sold 1 911 in the last few weeks ,across the group .Not that the market is feeling the squeeze - that’s a given.
Rather that they were admitting it.
My experience with OPCs, although mainly good, is that they try to talk the market up when you’re buying or enquiring. It’s when you try to sell or part-ex that you normally get the true picture.
In the present climate they won’t want to have too much tied up in stock.
Maybe SOR will make a comeback. Zero risk.
Obviously time of year is bad for such cars but even so..
I just spoke to an OPC who says they've been told not to buy in GT stock. And that they paid too much for current stock... They said the same as you, GT market will bounce back come spring.
I had a nosey at 911 GTS on the Porsche site, there are LOADS for sale. Any model, colour or spec you want. Supposedly an 18 month order waiting list, but it looks like the last years worth of cars are for sale!!
I had a nosey at 911 GTS on the Porsche site, there are LOADS for sale. Any model, colour or spec you want. Supposedly an 18 month order waiting list, but it looks like the last years worth of cars are for sale!!
It doesn’t surprise me to hear dealers aren’t seeing sales…lets face it a Porsche of pretty much any flavour is a luxury purchase that can be delayed or cancelled without much inconvenience. Specifically regarding normal 911’s I think they’re just bloody expensive….they are significantly more expensive that 991.2’s were new… you are now looking at t £140k for a 911 GTS when a 991.2 GTS can be had for £85 to 90k. The 992 is 50% more expensive than a used low mileage 991.2 that is utter madness.
I am sure you’ll be able to buy a 991.2 for a decent price over winter.
I am sure you’ll be able to buy a 991.2 for a decent price over winter.
Cheib said:
It doesn’t surprise me to hear dealers aren’t seeing sales…lets face it a Porsche of pretty much any flavour is a luxury purchase that can be delayed or cancelled without much inconvenience. Specifically regarding normal 911’s I think they’re just bloody expensive….they are significantly more expensive that 991.2’s were new… you are now looking at t £140k for a 911 GTS when a 991.2 GTS can be had for £85 to 90k. The 992 is 50% more expensive than a used low mileage 991.2 that is utter madness.
I am sure you’ll be able to buy a 991.2 for a decent price over winter.
Great example of showing where the 911 market is right now. The 991.2GTS is an amazing car and the best non GT Porsche 911 I've ever owned, a real sweet spot and at sub £90k makes some sort of sense. OTOH the daft prices being asked for 992GTS is totally unrealistic and due for a very sharp correction if they want to shift them. Exactly the same goes for the 992 Turbo S compared to the much better value 991.2 TTS.I am sure you’ll be able to buy a 991.2 for a decent price over winter.
DMC2 said:
I had a nosey at 911 GTS on the Porsche site, there are LOADS for sale. Any model, colour or spec you want. Supposedly an 18 month order waiting list, but it looks like the last years worth of cars are for sale!!
Currently more 992 Carrera for sale on PH than 991.1 and 991.2 combined. Ditto 992 Turbo versus 991.1 and 991.2 Turbo.Newest model so will have the highest demand. But there's a real supply side glut just as the economy is going bad.
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