911 Dakar Accident

[Oliie]

Sad to see this happen yesterday - Singapore registered Dakar had a big off in Malaysia during one of the morning club drives, running All Terrain tyres.

Driver and Passenger escaped with injuries / broken bones but are alive.

FYI these are GBP 760k list price (base) here in Singapore.

Video: https://fb.watch/nHer-dAn6u/?mibextid=ueP5go

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/...
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/singapor...

Edited by Oliie on Monday 16th October 01:42

[RDMcG]

It would appear to be a road accident though I may be mistaken. In such circumstances the offroad capabilities of the Dakar would nt seem to be of any advantage, and might be that a regular 92 would be fine.
I have no idea about the circumstances of the accident so no criticism intended.

[pancholi]

broken telegraph poles, total frontal crumple zone functioning as they are designed for.
and the doors were still able to be opened!!!
testament to how much damage these cars can take without distorting the frame and protecting the occupants.
amazing cars...

[Zarco]

RDMcG said:

It would appear to be a road accident though I may be mistaken. In such circumstances the offroad capabilities of the Dakar would nt seem to be of any advantage, and might be that a regular 92 would be fine.
I have no idea about the circumstances of the accident so no criticism intended.

I dare say all terrain tyres would be a distinct disadvantage, but I've never driven on the roads of Singapore.

[Hoofy]

Zarco said:

I dare say all terrain tyres would be a distinct disadvantage, but I've never driven on the roads of Singapore.

Looks like they took a trip across the causeway to Malaysia. Singapore is very clean and modern; Malaysia's roads - well, look at the photos.

[pancholi]

no idea why the issue of tires is being questioned.
like saying the issue of speed on a Turbo was a distinct disadvantage in an accident.
Porsche dont make cars where such vital issues are overlooked
being a Dakar owner the car have plenty of grip when in standard sport mode.......
put in Rally mode it will go sideways if you want it to.
it usually is the drivers capability that can get the car into trouble.

[Zarco]

My point was all terrain tyres would not be my first choice if I was driving fast on tarmac roads with a load of other Porsche enthusiasts.

[Wills2]

Zarco said:

My point was all terrain tyres would not be my first choice if I was driving fast on tarmac roads with a load of other Porsche enthusiasts.

But then you'd just adjust your driving style to the grip on offer and not be bothered about being a few seconds behind the pack, these cars are so capable that you need to be either very unlucky or playing silly buggers to end up like that. (played silly buggers many times in my old 911 so I can relate)

I once ran it on its 18" winters during the summer, felt woolly compared to the summer PS2s but it still had lashings of grip for fast road driving just not as much as the summers, so play accordingly.

Problem is everything is fine until suddenly isn't, a mate took me out in his 992 GT3 in the summer, from the passenger seat it all feels far far too fast, incredible grip etc..but I did wonder what would happen if it lets go, nothing good I suspect.

[Zarco]

Wills2 said:

Zarco said:

My point was all terrain tyres would not be my first choice if I was driving fast on tarmac roads with a load of other Porsche enthusiasts.

But then you'd just adjust your driving style to the grip on offer and not be bothered about being a few seconds behind the pack, these cars are so capable that you need to be either very unlucky or playing silly buggers to end up like that. (played silly buggers many times in my old 911 so I can relate)

I once ran it on its 18" winters during the summer, felt woolly compared to the summer PS2s but it still had lashings of grip for fast road driving just not as much as the summers, so play accordingly.

Problem is everything is fine until suddenly isn't, a mate took me out in his 992 GT3 in the summer, from the passenger seat it all feels far far too fast, incredible grip etc..but I did wonder what would happen if it lets go, nothing good I suspect.

Absolutely I'd adjust my driving style.

Call me cynical, but something tells me this chap in Singapore didn't.

[xxxx5]

Hope the driver is ok and passenger (if there was one), BUT we don't know any of the facts around the accident so lets just leave it there now.

[ChocolateFrog]

xxxx5 said:

Hope the driver is ok and passenger (if there was one), BUT we don't know any of the facts around the accident so lets just leave it there now.

OK gatekeeper.

While not leaving it there I wonder how much experience the driver had of the car beyond trundling round Singapore.

The missus used to live there and said car ownership was utterly pointless.

Like most of these types of accidents there was probably a "watch this" moment preceeding the accident.

[skidskid]

Zarco said:

My point was all terrain tyres would not be my first choice if I was driving fast on tarmac roads with a load of other Porsche enthusiasts.

The Dakar on those off road tyres does the same ring time as the 996 GT3 MK1 on its sports tyres. The Dakar's tyres aren't exactly old land rover tyres.