992.1 GTS suspension
992.1 GTS suspension
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DMC2

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1,978 posts

232 months

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I'm considering getting another 992.1, was looking at an S, but the GTS seems good value considering the higher spec. I've previously owned the 991.1 and .2 GTS.

Everybody I've spoken to says the Coupe GTS is annoyingly stiff for everyday use. There are a couple of cars with the optional +10mm suspension but neither in a spec I like. I know the Targa GTS is softer sprung, but what about the convertible? From what I've found online they seemed to come with the 992 S suspension, but you could spec the -10mm?

Anybody using the convertible everyday? Too much for our roads?

MeisterH

854 posts

122 months

Wednesday
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From my experience of owning a GTS Coupe and Targa, the Coupe with the -10mm spoiled the car, harsh most of the time, but i bet it is hard to find a coupe with normal

the Targa was a pure joy, and one of my favourite cars from the lineup

Nuttcase

613 posts

141 months

Wednesday
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Both the coupe and cab have the 10mm lowered ride height suspension as standard; higher ride i.e. softer springs was an option but I think you'll find most GTS cabs have the GTS lowered suspension. You really need to try one, as comfort is very subjective.

DMC2

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232 months

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Ah okay, so the convertible is exactly the same as the coupe as standard. I'll try and drive one this week

DMC2

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I just found the GTS spring rates online. Jeez, quite a bit stiffer than my old 992 S that had SPASM.

992 S standard - 32 front, 72 rear
992 S with SPASM - 45 front, 125 rear
992 GTS - 63 front, 152 rear

JackReacher

2,231 posts

236 months

Wednesday
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DMC2 said:
I just found the GTS spring rates online. Jeez, quite a bit stiffer than my old 992 S that had SPASM.

992 S standard - 32 front, 72 rear
992 S with SPASM - 45 front, 125 rear
992 GTS - 63 front, 152 rear
Out of interest, do you know how the 992 T compares to these?

alltalk

191 posts

101 months

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Are these 992.2 ?

Nuttcase

613 posts

141 months

Wednesday
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alltalk said:
Are these 992.2 ?
992.1

the columns should say spring rate, not damping rate


alltalk

191 posts

101 months

Wednesday
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Any where to get the same for 992.2 ?

Crumpet

4,887 posts

201 months

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I ve got the coupe variant and would describe it as unnecessarily and unpleasantly firm. To the point where, on typical UK B-roads, I can cover ground faster in a 2.5 tonne EV SUV with significantly less power and significantly more weight. The suspension and ride quality is dogst, frankly. My wife hates the car. Despite that, I generally still like and enjoy the car as a whole and the -10mm does make it look the nuts.

One thing to note, choose your own test route; the Porsche dealer routing I was taken on was clearly chosen for having the better road surface!

DMC2

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JackReacher said:
Out of interest, do you know how the 992 T compares to these?
I’m pretty sure the T is the same as the S with SPASM. I had both and they felt the same.

DC1960

102 posts

154 months

Thursday
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I have a 2023 4 GTS Cab with PASM (delete -10mm). Superb ride on crappy UK roads - so glad I optioned it in. PS: I was in Germany with the car for 2 years on superb roads and never found wanting on their roads, in fact at +140mph the PASM, according to German drivers who have driven both suspension set ups, improves high speed driving as the SPASM is too fidgety at high speed on the autobahn.

Stanley Rous

120 posts

230 months

Thursday
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I have a 992.1 GTS Coupe and it would be way too firm for me to use every day.

Otherwise, I love the car and have had from new. What could be done to soften the suspension and at what cost?

Schuey_911

882 posts

93 months

Thursday
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Yes, the 992.1 GTS with the Sports PASM (-10mm) has the Helper Springs, and same suspension setup as the 992 Turbo/S. It is fairly stiff on the roads but still better than the standard suspension on my previous E92 M3 and F82 M4 Competition on UK Roads.

It's great on Track though, taken it around Donington Park, Spa Francorchamps and Nurburgring and loved the handling, especially combined with the Rear Wheel Steering. Turn in was so sharp and on point. smile

Does anyone have a comparison with 992 GT3 spring rates? Would be keen to know the difference.

jh1104

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6 months

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I ve spent about 2 years in each of the following which I ve ranked from hardest to softest based on my recollection and the 992.1GTS is the only one that I d say now looking back was probably unacceptable for day to day road use in South East. Whilst all firmly sprung this felt the least settled at town speeds. On faster roads much less in it (and Touring probably best of the lot then). All manual FWIW.

992.1GTS Coupe
718 GT4
992.1 GT3 Touring
991.2 GTS Coupe


Edited by jh1104 on Thursday 8th January 15:01

DMC2

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232 months

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Has anybody changed the GTS suspension to something softer?

From the descriptions above it would be far too stiff for my everyday use. Can't believe it's stiffer than a GT4 lol. Having said that I found the GT4 tolerable, but I wouldn't want to go stiffer.

turbospud

528 posts

259 months

Thursday
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the gts suspension is not the problem for everyday use, its the excessive road noise.

some sound deadening makes a massive difference

XMA Simon

364 posts

174 months

Thursday
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PDCC:

I own a 992.1 C4 GTS. My car has the optional PDCC and rear wheel steer (I think these options come combined, as in you can't order one without the other which is why I mention it). PDCC - basically PASM implemented on the roll bars as opposed to just the dampers - does actually make the car significantly more supple. With the roll bars on the firmer setting I find the ride too harsh for UK roads. So 100% of the time on UK roads the car goes around with the PDCC in comfort mode. I think I remember my sales guy telling me that cars without PDCC are firmer than cars with PDCC.

My suggestion, is check what I just told you with a sales guy who knows the product and confirm by testing a car with PDCC.

I find my car quite comfortable as a daily, but then you opinion may vary according to you point of reference (what you've been driving previously) and your expectations.

Or just buy a Dakar! LOLs.

DC1960

102 posts

154 months

Thursday
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Re: PDCC and RWS. My 2023 992.1 4 GTS Cab has RWS, delete -10mm and does not have PDCC. You can have all combos. I have also driven a 992.2 GTS with SPASM, but on a track that was like a billiard table. To note, if you have -10mm the gap from tyre to wheel arch is not the same all around. It is lower at the top, but remains wider at the sides of the arches. Rennlist is a better source than any OPC.

Schuey_911

882 posts

93 months

Thursday
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Nuttcase said:
992.1

the columns should say spring rate, not damping rate

Do we have damping rates of 992 GT3 to compare with?