Does nobody want 987 Caymans?

[jonm01]

I have my 987 Cayman S up for a very reasonable £16250 but I'm not getting any interest? Is the market just very slow for these right now?

[Porsche911R]

most people go for the dfi cars now, Porsches sweet spot and bomb proof engines.

10 year old run of the mil cars are a hard sell.

[jonm01]

2007, 5825mls0, pretty good spec, Bose, PASM, etc.

The ad' is on the Classifieds.

[jonm01]

Yes, I think you're right. Will reduce it.

[mollytherocker]

Its always only ever about the price. ANY car will sell at the right price.

[Darkcat]

But remember its VERY easy to sell a car too cheap....

Just paid £12,500 for a well spec'ed 2007 2.7, which I think is about right.

[Darkcat]

On the flip-side its nearly impossible to sell a cheap car.
Listed my old skip/shed last week (a '99 Passat estate with MOT, no big issues) for £300 - no takers.

[alcatraz236]

too close to the dealer price

[Porsche911R]

the £500 tax has killed the cheap end of the market on sales, cmoose will say not, but people with £15k to spend will not pay out £500 to tax it.

I think new rules come back in 2017 for older cars and flat rates which might boost 987.1 2006 to 2009 Cayman S sales again.

[kingston12]

Porsche911R said:

the £500 tax has killed the cheap end of the market on sales, cmoose will say not, but people with £15k to spend will not pay out £500 to tax it.

I think new rules come back in 2017 for older cars and flat rates which might boost 987.1 2006 to 2009 Cayman S sales again.

Do the 2017 rules make any difference to cars registered before April 2017? My understanding is that they don't, but perhaps I got that wrong.

My 2005 Boxster S gets the exemption from the last change, and I do think it would make a bit of difference if I was going to sell it. £280 is a little more acceptable than £490 as these cars start to hit the £10k mark. Going down to the £140 flat rate would be welcome!

The new scheme is a massive disincentive to buy a new car at £40k+, so it will be interesting to see what that does to the market for these cars going forward.

[river_rat]

Does anyone seriously NOT buy a Porsche because the road tax is £490 instead of £280!

That's 3 tanks of fuel in difference over the year (not to mention all the other associated costs with running a Porsche).

[boxsey]

river_rat said:

Does anyone seriously NOT buy a Porsche because the road tax is £490 instead of £280!

That's 3 tanks of fuel in difference over the year (not to mention all the other associated costs with running a Porsche).

Yes but from a point of principal rather than the difference in cost. We're asked to pay more for a car that will be used a lot less than a daily driver and therefore will emit less greenhouse gases over a given period of time than a lower emitting, lower taxed car. We all know that little, if any, of the revenue raised goes back into the roads or to pay for other ways of reducing emissions. Therefore it's simply a stealth tax.

[kingston12]

river_rat said:

Does anyone seriously NOT buy a Porsche because the road tax is £490 instead of £280!

That's 3 tanks of fuel in difference over the year (not to mention all the other associated costs with running a Porsche).

I would have thought that it might sway some people.

Looking at it properly as you have, it is pretty much irrelevant, but I look at it as getting all of my servicing for free in comparison to having a 2006 or newer car.

Certainly, the new tax rates adds to the case against me replacing mine with a new one. Tax increase from £280 to £450, pus a big hit in the first year, depreciation up from £1,500 to £8-10,000, servicing cost doubles, insurance probably goes up significantly as well.

[Trev450]

river_rat said:

Does anyone seriously NOT buy a Porsche because the road tax is £490 instead of £280!

That's 3 tanks of fuel in difference over the year (not to mention all the other associated costs with running a Porsche).

I've been making this point for some time now but usually get shouted-down by the 'run it on a shoestring' brigade.

[Budflicker]

olly22n said:

I'd baulk at paying £500 per year and would actively go for a car in the cheaper tax band if i could.

Agreed, you kind of take it on the chin with a £30k plus car but who wants a £15k car that costs £500 per year just to tax it, add in insurance and a service and its £2k before you've even driven it.


Still a lot of sports car for £15k though?

[Porsche911R]

olly22n said:

I'd baulk at paying £500 per year and would actively go for a car in the cheaper tax band if i could.

so does every one, £10k cars at £500 tax = very hard to sell cars. !

[LordHaveMurci]

Budflicker said:

olly22n said:

I'd baulk at paying £500 per year and would actively go for a car in the cheaper tax band if i could.

Agreed, you kind of take it on the chin with a £30k plus car but who wants a £15k car that costs £500 per year just to tax it, add in insurance and a service and its £2k before you've even driven it.

Agree with this completely.

[Porsche911R]

It's £41 a month it's a massive halt on car prices which fall into this bracket

we saw it with V6 clios and Z4m etc although the Clio made a come back.

people with £10k don't fork out £41 a month just for tax.

[LordHaveMurci]

I do wonder how many non enthusiasts even know about the step in tax, and if a car is a tick box item owned for a shortish time frame people are less likely to care anyway.

[Trev450]

People do what people do. We are all individuals. I for one, however, would not let a couple of hundred quid a year prevent me from owning the car I want.