Minor turning to an expensive list of jobs

[Markbarry1977]

Well this is going to be an expensive month. Just been in for a minor and left with this long list of problems.

1) front and rear brake disks lip excessive. New disks an pads all round.

2) ns and of side cooling crossover pipes corroded.

3) exhaust tip band clamp cracked.

4) exhaust studs x6 excessively corroded.

5) bank 1 chain tensioner leaking

6) fuel filler cap rubber seal perished.

7) rear nears ode brake line corroded

8) and the big one, the air recirculating valve motor is broke. ( I have heard it constantly clicking for a couple of months and had been turning the stereo up to drown it out) it's a cheap part but I am told practically requires half the dashboard out to replace it. Waiting for a quote for all the work but this is going to hurt.

Anybody replaced the air recirculating motor before is it really that much of a pain?

2006 Cayman s

[finestjammy]

Are you looking at getting the work done at an OPC or independent?

[Trev450]

Tbh, most of those items are acknowledged as requiring replacement after a few tears with these cars. Doesn't make the cost any easier to swallow though.

[Markbarry1977]

I took it to an indie to do the servicing. This is the list of things it came back with. some of it I will have to leave until next month, just put a new clutch in the daily driver 3 days ago. It's been one of those months. The leaking cross over pipe and chain tensioner I want to get done ASAP. The brakes I think he's being overly cautious. The exhaust clamp tip and fuel cap I can do myself. The one that's really bothering me is the air recirculating valve motor. This could be a £500 quid plus job apparently with most of it labour.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Trev450 said:

a few tears with these cars.

So true!

[Markbarry1977]

This is the first time I have serviced the car, bought it 12 months ago.

What I don't understand is I check the coolant level once a week religiously. If the crossover pipe is leaking why has the coolant level remained right at the max all year.

Bit like the cam chain tensioner leaking. I live in a new build house and there isn't a drop of oil on the drive. I use about 100ml about every 1000 miles I just assumed it's burning a small amount.

[Trev450]

The coolant pipes corrode which will eventually lead to leaks. This is due to electrolosis between the alloy and steel connectors. Likewise, your cam tensioner is probably just weeping at the moment but best to get done.

[Porsche911R]

Trev450 said:

Tbh, most of those items are acknowledged as requiring replacement after a few tears with these cars. Doesn't make the cost any easier to swallow though.

not tears, people laugh at my £10k refresh quotes but those are the facts people shove under the carpet when owning cars.

[Markbarry1977]

How hard are the cross over pipes to do. I read an article on 911uk, but it was for a 997 turbo and they had to drop te whole front sub frame and diff to get the crossover coolant pipes replaced. Is it easier in the Cayman or is it a power steering rack out job. I know I would have to buy a vacuum refill kit or make one which doesn't sound that hard to do.

I don't mind paying for expertise but if it's a reality let simple job you could do with axel stands jacks and basic spammers then I might give it a go myself.

[Trev450]

My indy changed mine last year and although he didn't have to drop the subframe, he said it was a real tt of a job and wouldn't even consider doing it without a ramp.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Markbarry1977 said:

front and rear brake disks lip excessive.

That seems odd to me. What matters is the remaining thickness, not the size of the lip, although the two are clearly related.

Have you looked at the pads yourself? Unless they're getting thin in the context of your annual mileage I'd leave the brakes alone. IIRC there are wear sensors to alert you if wear goes too far in any event.

[Markbarry1977]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Markbarry1977 said:

front and rear brake disks lip excessive.

That seems odd to me. What matters is the remaining thickness, not the size of the lip, although the two are clearly related.

Have you looked at the pads yourself? Unless they're getting thin in the context of your annual mileage I'd leave the brakes alone. IIRC there are wear sensors to alert you if wear goes too far in any event.

Yeah I recon the pads have a good 7-10mm of meat on them still on the fronts and about the same on the rears. Like I said earlier I have a little s**t box fiesta I bought from auction as a daily driver do probably only do about 6-8k per year in the Cayman. I think I am going to leave them.

Just put it up on a kerb out the front of the house so I could slide under the car.

The exhaust bracket is definatley cracked about 2/3 of the way through so that's a straight away job.

There is a very small amount of oil leaking from the cam tensioner area. It's only a small wrap though.

The coroded brake pipe is surface only. A bit of wire wool will soon have that gone.

By the sounds of it the crossover pipes are a complete pig of a job even with a ramp so doing it on a couple of axel stands sounds like a recipe for disaster.

The air recirculating valve I have found on eBay reconditioned is £25 although I haven't got a Porsche dealership price yet. But I fear the labour will be a killer :-(.

Thanks guys for all the advice.

[HokumPokum]

Porsche911R said:

Trev450 said:

Tbh, most of those items are acknowledged as requiring replacement after a few tears with these cars. Doesn't make the cost any easier to swallow though.

not tears, people laugh at my £10k refresh quotes but those are the facts people shove under the carpet when owning cars.

i think you are spot on because you care about having the car in its best condition. quality shocks are 3k+, new condensers/radiators/discs/pads, some paint work, exhaust... why not?

[Markbarry1977]

I wish I had £10k sitting around. I own a 2006 Cayman and it takes up most of my free cash because I love it. I know some people say if you can't afford to run it then don't buy it. A Porsche was my dream car to own and I have achieved that. While I would love to just throw money at it, I have to priorities what I can do myself and what I need to pay to have done.

I want the car to be the best it can be so these jobs will get done, some are just higher priority than others.

Thanks guys for the advice. The indie Porsche specialist never got back to me this morning with a list of quotes for the work. Especially as I double checked he would, called and he confirmed he would and reminded him via email. I think I might just take the whole lot to the guy who does my daily driver. Proper old fashioned boy.

[Steve Baker]

Markbarry1977 said:

Yeah I recon the pads have a good 7-10mm of meat on them still on the fronts and about the same on the rears. Like I said earlier I have a little s**t box fiesta I bought from auction as a daily driver do probably only do about 6-8k per year in the Cayman. I think I am going to leave them.

Just put it up on a kerb out the front of the house so I could slide under the car.

The exhaust bracket is definatley cracked about 2/3 of the way through so that's a straight away job.

There is a very small amount of oil leaking from the cam tensioner area. It's only a small wrap though.

The coroded brake pipe is surface only. A bit of wire wool will soon have that gone.

By the sounds of it the crossover pipes are a complete pig of a job even with a ramp so doing it on a couple of axel stands sounds like a recipe for disaster.

The air recirculating valve I have found on eBay reconditioned is £25 although I haven't got a Porsche dealership price yet. But I fear the labour will be a killer :-(.

Thanks guys for all the advice.

My brother's Boxster had leaking coolant crossover pipes. We attempted to have a go ourselves. If the elbow hoses that connect into the crossover pipes are not badly corroded you may get away with just replacing the rubber hoses either end........we were unlikely and couldn't disconnect them all as they were too far gone. Couldn't see how we could replace crossovers without dropping front subframe which locates Lower cofin arms and fuel tank so took to someone with ramp and experience for piece of mind. From memory all the required pipes from Porsche were about £350. Labour £380 .Discs and Pads however are a relatively straight forward diy job.

Edited by Steve Baker on Saturday 18th June 18:17

[Markbarry1977]

Could someone tell me which pipes are the crossover pipes.

http://www.genuineautoparts.com/uk/auto-parts/2006...

[Steve Baker]

Markbarry1977 said:

Could someone tell me which pipes are the crossover pipes.

http://www.genuineautoparts.com/uk/auto-parts/2006...

1 & 3

[Markbarry1977]

Steve Baker said:

Markbarry1977 said:

Could someone tell me which pipes are the crossover pipes.

http://www.genuineautoparts.com/uk/auto-parts/2006...

1 & 3

Many thanks for that. I had the car up on axel stands and had a quick look. No way on earth am I attempting it on my own on axel stands. It looks a pig of a job. History has taught me simple jobs end up as pigs, pigs end up near impossible and jobs that look near impossible to me I'm not even contemplating.

On a side note after contacting the garage that did the service 3 times this week to get prices for the work they still haven't responded. Seems they don't want my business.

[turboteeth]

Sounds like my last service on a 2006 Cayman S...took it in for a major service and asked them to look at the air conditioning...£2,900 later I had new crossover pipes & air con condensers. A few months later a hydraulic lifter solenoid went so another £500. Now it needs new tyres!

I would ignore the exhaust stud corrosion - they will all be like that!!

[Markbarry1977]

Strange the garage that did the service and ffoound all the faults don't seem to interested in the work. I've called them twice and emailed them twice. Only to be fobbed off with we will get back to you.

Seems like I might be looking for a new Porsche specialist to do the stuff I don't know the local old boy would be interested in.