Gt4 must haves
Discussion
I think the low spec ones are expensive and the high spec ones are expensive.
the middle ones seems to be selling if priced right.
My must haves were quite a lot as I bought it new and wanted what I paid for as I don't buy new very often.
918 buckets
Full leather
PCM
PDSL
Climate
coloured stitching
Full Carbon
blue tooth for phone
Cruise control
coloured seat belts
Porsche crests
Sound pack plus
just a nice usable car and nothing crazy added to bump up to a daft price but all the main items I have on my £17k Ford lol !
The think is buying new you spec it how you want it, that's the whole point, no right and wrong.
must have item if I were a 2nd hand buyer would be, as there are so many for sale one can be fussy:
918 buckets
Climate
PCM
Full leather
PDSL
Blue tooth
but I would pay more for a car with Carbon over one without.
the silver inserts look cheap imo and the black aluminum don't look great either. (which I did spec 1st)
Carbon works well with the cars modern looks and the 918 buckets.
CS was never a option as I hate rattles in cars, and CS pack rattles and adds too much weight.
Sports chrono does nothing so did not see a point for £1k.
I later found Sports chrono adds the G meter and gear shift light, so I had those coded into my car
both items are s
t though, the G meter you play with once the shift light cannot keep up with the revs.
PDSL are great, over 40 years old and my eyes do not collect the light as well as I was when I were 17 and could see in the dark, PDSL was the 2nd box after buckets I ticked.
PCCB again if there were standard 991 items then I would have gone PCCB even at £5k
but the steels are 380MM GT3 all round, there is just no need for PCCB on the GT4 and as it's a track focused car
again PCCB don't fit in with the car really at this price bracket, as replacments are way to expensive.
It's a tarts handbag but I love it
I pretty much speced mine the same as the poster GT4 press release pics but with out the cage.
the middle ones seems to be selling if priced right.
My must haves were quite a lot as I bought it new and wanted what I paid for as I don't buy new very often.
918 buckets
Full leather
PCM
PDSL
Climate
coloured stitching
Full Carbon
blue tooth for phone
Cruise control
coloured seat belts
Porsche crests
Sound pack plus
just a nice usable car and nothing crazy added to bump up to a daft price but all the main items I have on my £17k Ford lol !
The think is buying new you spec it how you want it, that's the whole point, no right and wrong.
must have item if I were a 2nd hand buyer would be, as there are so many for sale one can be fussy:
918 buckets
Climate
PCM
Full leather
PDSL
Blue tooth
but I would pay more for a car with Carbon over one without.
the silver inserts look cheap imo and the black aluminum don't look great either. (which I did spec 1st)
Carbon works well with the cars modern looks and the 918 buckets.
CS was never a option as I hate rattles in cars, and CS pack rattles and adds too much weight.
Sports chrono does nothing so did not see a point for £1k.
I later found Sports chrono adds the G meter and gear shift light, so I had those coded into my car
both items are s
t though, the G meter you play with once the shift light cannot keep up with the revs.PDSL are great, over 40 years old and my eyes do not collect the light as well as I was when I were 17 and could see in the dark, PDSL was the 2nd box after buckets I ticked.
PCCB again if there were standard 991 items then I would have gone PCCB even at £5k
but the steels are 380MM GT3 all round, there is just no need for PCCB on the GT4 and as it's a track focused car
again PCCB don't fit in with the car really at this price bracket, as replacments are way to expensive.
It's a tarts handbag but I love it
I pretty much speced mine the same as the poster GT4 press release pics but with out the cage.
Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 31st October 23:42
All subjective and if you were lucky enough to be able to spec yourself then you could choose as you wanted.
(Apart from 'flippers' for whom low spec makes sense to maximise profit, high spec would not give the same financial return I guess)
So to talk my own book, I basically ticked most boxes! Basically everything apart from carbon sills
For me a GT car should have clubsport and buckets (else the Cayman R is perfectly sensible alternative)
All the options listed in the previous posts above.
As it would also get a fair amount of road use luxury items like leather dash, dual ac, carbon interior, etc make it a lovely place to live.
I also chose PCCBs as they are the 991 items and super performing. Historically this would not be recommended as previous gen PCCBs were sometimes a bit chocolate. However the latest 991 items are superb. Exceptional thermal properties, lighter, great bite, longevity, and as the Cayman is overbraked they hold up extremely well to heavy duty use. I have done the back to back test of PCCBs vs Steels (my friend has identical car to me but with steels) and you can materially notice the lighter weight through the steering, lower rotating mass at turn in, etc.
However, not saying anything wrong with steels. Yes the PCCBs are luxury items and not essential. But if you can afford the luxury then amazing brakes.
Unlike suggested above, I have never felt any issues with cage rattling etc. I have had many clubsport spec cars and usually the only time you can get rattles is when there is a front cage also fitted. With the additional bolted metal and torsional twisting there can be some rattles. The GT4 CSs do not come with a front cage and hence no issue here.
(Apart from 'flippers' for whom low spec makes sense to maximise profit, high spec would not give the same financial return I guess)
So to talk my own book, I basically ticked most boxes! Basically everything apart from carbon sills
For me a GT car should have clubsport and buckets (else the Cayman R is perfectly sensible alternative)
All the options listed in the previous posts above.
As it would also get a fair amount of road use luxury items like leather dash, dual ac, carbon interior, etc make it a lovely place to live.
I also chose PCCBs as they are the 991 items and super performing. Historically this would not be recommended as previous gen PCCBs were sometimes a bit chocolate. However the latest 991 items are superb. Exceptional thermal properties, lighter, great bite, longevity, and as the Cayman is overbraked they hold up extremely well to heavy duty use. I have done the back to back test of PCCBs vs Steels (my friend has identical car to me but with steels) and you can materially notice the lighter weight through the steering, lower rotating mass at turn in, etc.
However, not saying anything wrong with steels. Yes the PCCBs are luxury items and not essential. But if you can afford the luxury then amazing brakes.
Unlike suggested above, I have never felt any issues with cage rattling etc. I have had many clubsport spec cars and usually the only time you can get rattles is when there is a front cage also fitted. With the additional bolted metal and torsional twisting there can be some rattles. The GT4 CSs do not come with a front cage and hence no issue here.
I have set myself a strict self-imposed limit of keeping option prices on all the new Porsches i buy at a maximum of below 20% of new basic retail price.I learnt this the hard way a few years ago when i specced my then new Cayenne diesel from £47000 basic up to £60600 and took a bath on trade up.I set myself a limit of £76500 on my GT4 and after randomly ticking every box i settled on the following.
Guards red(classic,timeless and free)
Full leather(I hate plastic dash)
Climate,PCM,Phone,dimming mirrors/auto wipers(i have them on all my Porsches)
918 buckets(No brainer unless your body shape says otherwise)
PCCB(Cheapest way to get 918 brakes on any Porsche, having the best braked Porsche ever built and 20Kg less unsprung weight)
But no clubsport and Pdls.
Clubsport was iho a con at £3000 and 26kg of high up weight and with Pdls i hated the look of the washer nozzles.All of course in my imho.
Guards red(classic,timeless and free)
Full leather(I hate plastic dash)
Climate,PCM,Phone,dimming mirrors/auto wipers(i have them on all my Porsches)
918 buckets(No brainer unless your body shape says otherwise)
PCCB(Cheapest way to get 918 brakes on any Porsche, having the best braked Porsche ever built and 20Kg less unsprung weight)
But no clubsport and Pdls.
Clubsport was iho a con at £3000 and 26kg of high up weight and with Pdls i hated the look of the washer nozzles.All of course in my imho.
Most seem to be listing there ideal Spec rather than original question of "must haves " .
If looking again to purchase 2nd hand, I would walk away from any GT4 that didn't have :
buckets
leather
mobile phone prep
as an absolute minimum . Everything else is negotiable .
I bought a Spyder after my GT4 with the same criteria , which meant I bought private from the other end of country rather than the car sitting in my OPC which would have been a much easier transaction
If looking again to purchase 2nd hand, I would walk away from any GT4 that didn't have :
buckets
leather
mobile phone prep
as an absolute minimum . Everything else is negotiable .
I bought a Spyder after my GT4 with the same criteria , which meant I bought private from the other end of country rather than the car sitting in my OPC which would have been a much easier transaction
Porsche911R said:
Steve Rance said:
Clubsport pack
Nothing else.
so no AC and no radio :-)Nothing else.
nice choice and I have seen cars in that spec, expensive track toy at that point though.
Not really, could just as well be a hardcore (by your standards) weekend, road use only plaything.
I've not listened to a radio in any of my GT2/3's in the last 10 years, but then apart from my 996 GT2, none of them have been daily drivers. As for aircon, well in a weekend toy, mainly used in the summer, I'd crank the windows down and enjoy the fresh air rather than be cooped up in an air conditioned box.
Must haves
Buckets
Leather pack
Nice to have
Phone Prep / Bluetooth
Sound Package Plus
Colour stitching
Colour Seat belts
Carbon
Not really bothered about much to be honest, as long as the car has buckets I could over look the rest of the stuff. Car will a hoon / track toy. The 5K saved in car price because of lower options will use that money to tune it.
Buckets
Leather pack
Nice to have
Phone Prep / Bluetooth
Sound Package Plus
Colour stitching
Colour Seat belts
Carbon
Not really bothered about much to be honest, as long as the car has buckets I could over look the rest of the stuff. Car will a hoon / track toy. The 5K saved in car price because of lower options will use that money to tune it.
Edited by JayK12 on Tuesday 1st November 09:04
Essentials imo:
Buckets
Extended leather with stitching
Bluetooth
Moble phone prep
PCM
Leather wheel.
Nice to have:
Carbon (as the standard trim looks st). Goes with Spyder buckets too.
Coloured non platinum stitching
Anti dazzle and auto wipers.
Platinum wheels as hate black/silver.
Pointless:
To pay more for a metallic non GT colour e.g. Agate grey.
Clubsport
Ceramics
Cruise
Light package
Sport chrono.
Climate (have manual aircon on GT4 and Spyder which works perfectly).
Buckets
Extended leather with stitching
Bluetooth
Moble phone prep
PCM
Leather wheel.
Nice to have:
Carbon (as the standard trim looks s
t). Goes with Spyder buckets too.Coloured non platinum stitching
Anti dazzle and auto wipers.
Platinum wheels as hate black/silver.
Pointless:
To pay more for a metallic non GT colour e.g. Agate grey.
Clubsport
Ceramics
Cruise
Light package
Sport chrono.
Climate (have manual aircon on GT4 and Spyder which works perfectly).
Must haves…
Clubsport
Buckets
Extended leather
Nav (seems for some)
Nice to have options.…
Sound package plus
Bluetooth
Climate
The rest of the options can be compromised on really easily.
And what the obsession with carbon on these threads?! I personally think it makes the cockpit look far too dark, the standard silver trim brightens up the car up nicely and doesn’t look anywhere near as tacky. I wouldn’t turn a car down if it had carbon interior trim fitted, but I certainly wouldn’t pay extra for it.
Clubsport
Buckets
Extended leather
Nav (seems for some)
Nice to have options.…
Sound package plus
Bluetooth
Climate
The rest of the options can be compromised on really easily.
And what the obsession with carbon on these threads?! I personally think it makes the cockpit look far too dark, the standard silver trim brightens up the car up nicely and doesn’t look anywhere near as tacky. I wouldn’t turn a car down if it had carbon interior trim fitted, but I certainly wouldn’t pay extra for it.
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