Why I’m ok with 718 GT4 being manual
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I know PDK is really popular and many are hoping that the next GT4 will have it but Harry Catchpole does a great job explaining why he is thankful for the latest gt3 being manual. He makes such compelling arguments. Worth the watch - especially if you like to row your own. I won’t be disappointed if the 718 GT4 is manual only. Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/oaUCdAdaaj8
https://youtu.be/oaUCdAdaaj8
Caysters have a six-speed box, which is awesome. The seven speed in the regular 911 isn't great by all accounts, the GT3 and 911R got a six-speed manual.
My issue with the upcoming GT4 isn't the gearbox, more the looks of the thing with its fugly fat backside and what the GPF will do to the sound...
My issue with the upcoming GT4 isn't the gearbox, more the looks of the thing with its fugly fat backside and what the GPF will do to the sound...
Porsche911R said:
Yes driving a manual is a hard earned skill PDK owners will never have.
...unless they have another car. A manual....or used to have a manual car and can recall how to drive a manual.
As for hard earned skill, I seem to recall my first driving lesson was in a manual Escort Mk1 at 17.
I didn't stall it.
Or do you mean driving a manual WELL is a hard earned skill? If so, define "well"?
It's his current rant, about how his hard earned "skillz" are being beaten/overruled by PDK and driver aids which make it "easy".
Leave him be. ABS, PDK, RWS etc are progress and he's very anti them, which is fine, whereas others embrace them. He doesn't half bang on about how he's right and they're wrong though
Leave him be. ABS, PDK, RWS etc are progress and he's very anti them, which is fine, whereas others embrace them. He doesn't half bang on about how he's right and they're wrong though
Twinfan said:
It's his current rant, about how his hard earned "skillz" are being beaten/overruled by PDK and driver aids which make it "easy".
Leave him be. ABS, PDK, RWS etc are progress and he's very anti them, which is fine, whereas others embrace them. He doesn't half bang on about how he's right and they're wrong though
not at all, If I bought a modern super bike I would admit I want the help as I am not able to ride the old school ones very well, So give me Gyros, ABS, wheelie control etc etc the more the better.Leave him be. ABS, PDK, RWS etc are progress and he's very anti them, which is fine, whereas others embrace them. He doesn't half bang on about how he's right and they're wrong though
It's admitting you want the help , and that goes a miss on these forums. and we get the "I bought a PDK because" : then add in all the bulls
t excuses lol other half drives it, Traffic etc etc It is what is what it is like any sport, you need to do it each and every day for a long time to be good.
No good driving to work in a PDK 5 days a week then expecting to be Manual master driver for 1 hour every other Sunday on summer days only lol with 6 months off though winter.
It's a hard earned skill which only comes with miles sorry to say and hence people cannot be arsed like most things today to master a skill when you can buy a car which does it all for you and makes you faster straight away.
Look at the post above, the poster could not get into the right gear for the bend ! and you see that on track in PDK owned cars, sluring down the box after the apex.....
Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 8th June 13:57
Twinfan said:
Manual gear changes are a dying art, like cadence braking was when ABS came along. Things get superseded, that's how progress works 
I'm a manual fan and would never own a PDK car, but I accept the fact that I'm in the very vast minority
As I see it, you have to push your left leg down, move your left arm about, and then lift your left leg?I'm a manual fan and would never own a PDK car, but I accept the fact that I'm in the very vast minority
Not difficult, unless you're doing 150mph!
Twinfan said:
Manual gear changes are a dying art, like cadence braking was when ABS came along. Things get superseded, that's how progress works
I'm a manual fan and would never own a PDK car, but I accept the fact that I'm in the very vast minority
no ones ever cadence braked , well not in my life time at 48, one may have had to pump the brakes back in the early days lol to pre load the brake and you see that now in early non assisted 1950's racing . a few taps with the left foot to get the brakes ready before you need them this remove the slight delay when racing in the old cars with no pumps etc.I'm a manual fan and would never own a PDK car, but I accept the fact that I'm in the very vast minority
Threshold braking is the skill hard earned.
cadence braking is bulls
t made up stuff imo which has stuck around for some reason when ASB came out and now very misquoted.DJMC said:
As I see it, you have to push your left leg down, move your left arm about, and then lift your left leg?
Not difficult, unless you're doing 150mph!
It's the juggling of braking/throttle/steering input that MrD is talking about. Things are definitely easier to manage with doth hands on the wheel, one foot to brake etc.Not difficult, unless you're doing 150mph!
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